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Post by anders Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:27 am

Alanna wrote: Ashley was already insecure about being the lead in the first place and if everyone is leaving her and not into it, then she's for sure going to question all of them, especially the one she's planning on choosing. Every lead is somewhat scared that they'll be rejected at the FRC after breaking up with 24 other people and since this is the girl who tells the men 'I was afraid you all would get back in the limo when you saw me,' that fear is probably a million times worse for her. Who says that BTW? What is wrong with her that she thinks no one wants her? Oy.


she had zero trouble dumping Ben C without so much as asking if what Will said had any truth to it. Or letting William go when he described himself as a boy. She actually encouraged Mickey 'to take the intiative and leave'. Frankly, I think she's only insecure about the guys that she's actually interested in. I'm curious as to how Connie's departure goes down.


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Post by Alanna Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:31 am

Anders, IA, I meant she's going to question the ones that say they're here for her and really like her before she trusts them back and lets herself fall for them. Although, personally, I think that train has already long left the station when it comes to JP.


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Post by Guest Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:15 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

Makes sense. I had to go back and look 'cause I only remember one bed crying scene after Bentley. She's not in bed crying though, she seems to be laying on the couch looking thoughtful but not overly sad IMO At first glance I thought they were all Ryan related but when noticing yesterday that the shirts were different I knew something wasn't right. Has anybody identified that couch she's laying on to see where she's staying at the time. Also, what order does the Dino Ryan scenes happen? I don't think I'm exactly sure when Dino leaves. Is it before his FD? and what about Ryan? and wouldn't it have been easier to do all this before they left the US? nah, and turn down a free trip? not after they sprung for Bentley to fly to Hong Kong :puke:

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I think its been identified as Namale.

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Post by Samantharose Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:21 pm

Beeleever wrote:
ironcat wrote:
anders wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

I think if Dino comes to her room to tell her he's dropping out, Ashley will take it extremely poorly, even if she knows she isn't picking him, because it will bring up all those insecurities she has about the guys leaving her. This will be the third time it's happening after all (Bentley, Mickey, Dino). The more this appears to be a pattern in her mind, the more she will start to also doubt that JP and Ben are really as into her as they have been telling her, and the more upset she will get.

If, as has been speculated, Ben also drops out at FRC, oy vey, the poor girl will go off the deep end. However, it will fit in with what JP told her weeks ago about how they'd have to force him out, as he'll end up being the only one who didn't leave her. I hope it doesn't go down that way, though.

ICAM, Ironcat. Here is my question...what we have seen up to this point, JP has never wavered or given Ashley any reason to question his feelings for her. Do you think something changes to make her feel insecure or question his level of commitment to her?

Maybe he finally gets frustrated with all her insecurities?
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Post by Beeleever Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:00 pm

Samantharose wrote:
Beeleever wrote:
ironcat wrote:
anders wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

I think if Dino comes to her room to tell her he's dropping out, Ashley will take it extremely poorly, even if she knows she isn't picking him, because it will bring up all those insecurities she has about the guys leaving her. This will be the third time it's happening after all (Bentley, Mickey, Dino). The more this appears to be a pattern in her mind, the more she will start to also doubt that JP and Ben are really as into her as they have been telling her, and the more upset she will get.

If, as has been speculated, Ben also drops out at FRC, oy vey, the poor girl will go off the deep end. However, it will fit in with what JP told her weeks ago about how they'd have to force him out, as he'll end up being the only one who didn't leave her. I hope it doesn't go down that way, though.

ICAM, Ironcat. Here is my question...what we have seen up to this point, JP has never wavered or given Ashley any reason to question his feelings for her. Do you think something changes to make her feel insecure or question his level of commitment to her?

Maybe he finally gets frustrated with all her insecurities?

Could be...or maybe he is frustrated with the guys leaving and coming back? He was pretty great with the whole Bentley thing but maybe Ryan coming back pushes him to the limit? Ashley is so not into Ryan. I don't see that as a threat at all.
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Post by CarrieA Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:30 pm

We don't see Ryan as the threat, but JP could very well see him as one..Ryan was gettin special roses left and right. JP isn't shown what we are (Ash and Ryan's interactions/conversations) when he is there so he doesn't know what they do when they are together.
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Post by lavenderred Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:38 pm

Yes, Ashley is wearing that orange top with the white top underneath in Namale. She's opening the door to the Namale Resort - Vale Tatadra (Dream House) -- https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150215603702233.321747.110195002232
But I have not been able to find Tatadra Villa pictures with those pillows. So maybe she's in another villa when she laying down on those pillows. no idea

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Post by Beeleever Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:46 pm

CarrieAlexander wrote:We don't see Ryan as the threat, but JP could very well see him as one..Ryan was gettin special roses left and right. JP isn't shown what we are (Ash and Ryan's interactions/conversations) when he is there so he doesn't know what they do when they are together.

So true Carrie. As far as the guys can see, she is giving him a lot of special attention. It's got to be getting really tough for JP to be so patient with Ash when it is not one of his attributes! :awesome:
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Post by momoftrips Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:53 pm

lavenderred wrote:Yes, Ashley is wearing that orange top with the white top underneath in Namale. She's opening the door to the Namale Resort - Vale Tatadra (Dream House) -- https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150215603702233.321747.110195002232
But I have not been able to find Tatadra Villa pictures with those pillows. So maybe she's in another villa when she laying down on those pillows. no idea

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Here you go lavenderred.

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Post by lavenderred Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:07 pm

Oh that's right, thanks.
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Post by Hotmomma Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:39 pm

lavenderred wrote:Yes, Ashley is wearing that orange top with the white top underneath in Namale. She's opening the door to the Namale Resort - Vale Tatadra (Dream House) -- https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150215603702233.321747.110195002232
But I have not been able to find Tatadra Villa pictures with those pillows. So maybe she's in another villa when she laying down on those pillows. no idea

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what a great screencap So I wonder if this is the evening portion of a FD...
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Post by Bloomers Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:11 am

One thing that we might keep in mind and consider - not that it is the Gospel, but he has been far more right than wrong - is that RS said Dino leaving seems to be more of a mutual understanding between Ashley and Dino. RS did not know, but his guess was that it might have been religious differences.


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