Fantasy Dates - Screencaps - Discussion

Well, they have FD, MTD and LCD. So the hugging cap with brown shirt may be from MTP.

cupcakes wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:Hey cupcakes, Is it possible that Ashley's bikini on Dino's date has spaghetti straps, and her bikini top on JP's date is a halter top? Maybe they are different, but still really similar?

All I see is halter on both, but may be they are different. Also, the bottoms may be different. The one with Dino she is wearing white bottoms, maybe in the other one she wearing something different? It's really confusing because so many caps of them. Can they all be JP and Ash?

JP in blue shirt/grey shorts and she is in the red top with shorts walking on a beach.
JP is beige shirt and she is in the brown dress shirt hugging on a beach.
Now there may be this mud cap (purple bikini and orange/blue shorts).
Plus, the descrip from RS about her in a brown sarong and turquise bikini for the LCD.

I feel like we have too many caps of them.

My guesses:

JP in blue shirt/grey shorts and she is in the red top with shorts walking on a beach. -Day FD or MTP
JP is beige shirt and she is in the brown dress shirt hugging on a beach. -MTP or she needs to talk to him about something (Ryan?) during the finale that isn't a scheduled date or Day FD
Now there may be this mud cap (purple bikini and orange/blue shorts). -Day FD but now in suits
Plus, the descrip from RS about her in a brown sarong and turquise bikini for the LCD. - Day LCD

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

Makes sense. I had to go back and look 'cause I only remember one bed crying scene after Bentley. She's not in bed crying though, she seems to be laying on the couch looking thoughtful but not overly sad IMO At first glance I thought they were all Ryan related but when noticing yesterday that the shirts were different I knew something wasn't right. Has anybody identified that couch she's laying on to see where she's staying at the time. Also, what order does the Dino Ryan scenes happen? I don't think I'm exactly sure when Dino leaves. Is it before his FD? and what about Ryan? and wouldn't it have been easier to do all this before they left the US? nah, and turn down a free trip? not after they sprung for Bentley to fly to Hong Kong :puke:

yes, someone somewhere on this board found a matching couch - could be in the FRC Part 1 thread - since we did a lot of caps in that thread. I think it was early this week = if that helps with the hunt.

Is it possible she just talks to Ryan at two different times, and that's why the different shirts?

northernviewer wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

Makes sense. I had to go back and look 'cause I only remember one bed crying scene after Bentley. She's not in bed crying though, she seems to be laying on the couch looking thoughtful but not overly sad IMO At first glance I thought they were all Ryan related but when noticing yesterday that the shirts were different I knew something wasn't right. Has anybody identified that couch she's laying on to see where she's staying at the time. Also, what order does the Dino Ryan scenes happen? I don't think I'm exactly sure when Dino leaves. Is it before his FD? and what about Ryan? and wouldn't it have been easier to do all this before they left the US? nah, and turn down a free trip? not after they sprung for Bentley to fly to Hong Kong :puke:

NV~This couch has been identified but I am out of town and on my iPhone so can't go look for it...but I'm sure one of our expert sleuthers extaordinaire will have it here in no time!

You pose some good questions about when Dino leaves. We know that he is there for at least the day portion of the date. It is possible that he is coming to Ash in between the day and night portion, but not likely as I don't think they have a lot of time to relax and chill. So perhaps he spent the night with her in the fantasy suite and after some thinking, went to her room sometime prior to the rose ceremony?

I also thought that I saw Ash in tears in this outfit. Am I making this up?

anders wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

I think if Dino comes to her room to tell her he's dropping out, Ashley will take it extremely poorly, even if she knows she isn't picking him, because it will bring up all those insecurities she has about the guys leaving her. This will be the third time it's happening after all (Bentley, Mickey, Dino). The more this appears to be a pattern in her mind, the more she will start to also doubt that JP and Ben are really as into her as they have been telling her, and the more upset she will get.

If, as has been speculated, Ben also drops out at FRC, oy vey, the poor girl will go off the deep end. However, it will fit in with what JP told her weeks ago about how they'd have to force him out, as he'll end up being the only one who didn't leave her. I hope it doesn't go down that way, though.

Beeleever wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

Makes sense. I had to go back and look 'cause I only remember one bed crying scene after Bentley. She's not in bed crying though, she seems to be laying on the couch looking thoughtful but not overly sad IMO At first glance I thought they were all Ryan related but when noticing yesterday that the shirts were different I knew something wasn't right. Has anybody identified that couch she's laying on to see where she's staying at the time. Also, what order does the Dino Ryan scenes happen? I don't think I'm exactly sure when Dino leaves. Is it before his FD? and what about Ryan? and wouldn't it have been easier to do all this before they left the US? nah, and turn down a free trip? not after they sprung for Bentley to fly to Hong Kong :puke:

NV~This couch has been identified but I am out of town and on my iPhone so can't go look for it...but I'm sure one of our expert sleuthers extaordinaire will have it here in no time!

You pose some good questions about when Dino leaves. We know that he is there for at least the day portion of the date. It is possible that he is coming to Ash in between the day and night portion, but not likely as I don't think they have a lot of time to relax and chill. So perhaps he spent the night with her in the fantasy suite and after some thinking, went to her room sometime prior to the rose ceremony?

I also thought that I saw Ash in tears in this outfit. Am I making this up?

During that scene with her on the couch, there is a VO of her crying, so I they probably want us to believe that this moment was a sad time for her, but i do'nt think it'll bother her too much, just another bruise on her ego, but nothing serious.

ironcat wrote:

anders wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

I think if Dino comes to her room to tell her he's dropping out, Ashley will take it extremely poorly, even if she knows she isn't picking him, because it will bring up all those insecurities she has about the guys leaving her. This will be the third time it's happening after all (Bentley, Mickey, Dino). The more this appears to be a pattern in her mind, the more she will start to also doubt that JP and Ben are really as into her as they have been telling her, and the more upset she will get.

If, as has been speculated, Ben also drops out at FRC, oy vey, the poor girl will go off the deep end. However, it will fit in with what JP told her weeks ago about how they'd have to force him out, as he'll end up being the only one who didn't leave her. I hope it doesn't go down that way, though.

You echo my exact thoughts. Poor Ashley....talk about feeding her insecurities!

ironcat wrote:

anders wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

I think if Dino comes to her room to tell her he's dropping out, Ashley will take it extremely poorly, even if she knows she isn't picking him, because it will bring up all those insecurities she has about the guys leaving her. This will be the third time it's happening after all (Bentley, Mickey, Dino). The more this appears to be a pattern in her mind, the more she will start to also doubt that JP and Ben are really as into her as they have been telling her, and the more upset she will get.

If, as has been speculated, Ben also drops out at FRC, oy vey, the poor girl will go off the deep end. However, it will fit in with what JP told her weeks ago about how they'd have to force him out, as he'll end up being the only one who didn't leave her. I hope it doesn't go down that way, though.

ICAM, Ironcat. Here is my question...what we have seen up to this point, JP has never wavered or given Ashley any reason to question his feelings for her. Do you think something changes to make her feel insecure or question his level of commitment to her?

Beeleever wrote:

ironcat wrote:

anders wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think the first cap is when Dino comes to tell her he's leaving. Later you see her in the bed crying.

wow - I never thought of that - totally plausible. She is happy to see someone then we see she's upset in the same outfit. and there's a camera guy in her room, she was prolly doing some PIs after their FD.

I think if Dino comes to her room to tell her he's dropping out, Ashley will take it extremely poorly, even if she knows she isn't picking him, because it will bring up all those insecurities she has about the guys leaving her. This will be the third time it's happening after all (Bentley, Mickey, Dino). The more this appears to be a pattern in her mind, the more she will start to also doubt that JP and Ben are really as into her as they have been telling her, and the more upset she will get.

If, as has been speculated, Ben also drops out at FRC, oy vey, the poor girl will go off the deep end. However, it will fit in with what JP told her weeks ago about how they'd have to force him out, as he'll end up being the only one who didn't leave her. I hope it doesn't go down that way, though.

ICAM, Ironcat. Here is my question...what we have seen up to this point, JP has never wavered or given Ashley any reason to question his feelings for him. Do you think something changes to make her feel insecure or question his level of commitment to her?

Ashley was already insecure about being the lead in the first place and if everyone is leaving her and not into it, then she's for sure going to question all of them, especially the one she's planning on choosing. Every lead is somewhat scared that they'll be rejected at the FRC after breaking up with 24 other people and since this is the girl who tells the men 'I was afraid you all would get back in the limo when you saw me,' that fear is probably a million times worse for her. Who says that BTW? What is wrong with her that she thinks no one wants her? Oy.

JP has said that he's around until she forces him away but he was saying it very early and in a joking fashion so she doesn't believe it yet or think he's serious. Also, it seems that like Ali, she needs to know that there's nothing she can do to 'force' him away and that she's 'stuck' with him no matter what she does or doesn't do, in a non-creepy way, LOL. I think he gets Ashley so I'm sure he'll comfort her and let her know that he's not abadoning her when she tells him about her continued insecurities. Isn't that what the new L&S article is about too? That her man won't abandon her like daddy dearest?