Re: Tim Lopez - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Thread #3

[Iluvbachette]

Not sure about the episodes left. We know for sure 2 and thought the last would be June 9th. Yet in today's show it says 2 weeks left. There isn't alot of time to turn things back.

[tigertiz]

There isn't alot of time to turn things back.

They wont want to do too much of that. They want us to be surprised about his choice. Ha. Not going to happen.

[mrsgrover]

I agree with alot of you on that you feel Tim and Sara do not have a passion or connection. Everytime she brings up the fact that her ex died of cancer and she stuck with him- which is truly admirable and I feel for her thats a loss I never want to experience, I do cringe. How many times does she have to bring that up? It just looks to me like she is trying to make herself into the perfect mate for Tim and that they would be so perfect. If you can't tell I am on the Jenna ship ;). However, something that made me stop and think was Tim telling Sara that he has to spread himself thin with the girls and wishes he was like Ernesto with the kissing. What made him say that to her?

This is so long sorry! Also in his PI he said he is falling in love and she is a great girl but to me that looked spliced into Sara's segment notice he didn't say her name or any identifying factor was shown to whom he was referring. He looked like he was going to cry in the garden after he said Jenna's name. Also I caught a look between them when he gave out the flowers. I did catch a smile from Sara to Tim as well but his back was to the camera. AAAA this is driving me crazy I just want to watch the finale and get on with my life LOL!! Any other thoughts?

Just one thing to consider, these shows tend to only show the contestants as one dimensional. That is part of Sara's story line (can she love again), so that is what they are choosing to show and focus on that. I've heard numerous contestants from the bachelor/bachelorette talk about this. An example, Chris Lambton talked about how the producers were always encouraging him to talk about his mother's death and encouraged Ali and Ali's family to ask him questions about it. After the show was over he felt they focused on it way too much and said the edit made it seem like he didn't talk about anything else, when in reality he only brought it up a few times. I'm assuming it is the same way on RFL since it seems some of the producers are ex-bachelor producers.

[noobsleuth]

But Jenna's story did take a big leap this week. It just wasn't covered in a multitude of kissing and mind games. The girl that for weeks has said again and again that it's too soon to be falling in love confessed to him that she was. I like her story line because for them it's a two way street... not just a girl competing for a guy. I expect to see her family question Tim as to why he is right for her. Why he deserves her. At least that's what I hope anyway.

IMO the girl that made the most progress this week was Siham! Finally, we got to see her.

Anyway, I agree with what you are saying Litta about how even if Tim does pick Sara, they still have to show what happens with Jenna. They can't just stop showing her. At least on the Bach the F4 generally get the same amount of airtime. How can I support Sara and Tim's relationship when the editing is telling me that's my only option? All it does is make me suspicious about what's going on with the other girls. I was a little shocked to see how intimate he had been with Siham over the past couple of weeks. Didn't see that coming .. but it still happened.

[cantstopwatchin]

Let's be fair to Sara re: the fiance - the only reason she mentioned him to Tim's family was because she followed Amber's suggestion she bring him up to show how dedicated she can be to the person she loves, no matter any adversity they might face.

I'm sure they talked about other things but they focused on that particular conversation b/c that was the advice Sara was given...

[MatchMaker]

Not sure about the episodes left. We know for sure 2 and thought the last would be June 9th. Yet in today's show it says 2 weeks left. There isn't alot of time to turn things back.

Two episodes left. Ref. Wikipedia Ready for Love (TV series)

[Beb]

But Jenna's story did take a big leap this week. It just wasn't covered in a multitude of kissing and mind games. The girl that for weeks has said again and again that it's too soon to be falling in love confessed to him that she was. I like her story line because for them it's a two way street... not just a girl competing for a guy. I expect to see her family question Tim as to why he is right for her. Why he deserves her. At least that's what I hope anyway.

IMO the girl that made the most progress this week was Siham! Finally, we got to see her.

Anyway, I agree with what you are saying Litta about how even if Tim does pick Sara, they still have to show what happens with Jenna. They can't just stop showing her. At least on the Bach the F4 generally get the same amount of airtime. How can I support Sara and Tim's relationship when the editing is telling me that's my only option? All it does is make me suspicious about what's going on with the other girls. I was a little shocked to see how intimate he had been with Siham over the past couple of weeks. Didn't see that coming .. but it still happened.

Re: Siham...if you are reading this site...just want to say, I think you are one class act. You truly walked away from this with your dignity and spirit intact. I thought you were incredible. Well done.

[Guest]

Any thoughts on Tracy's suggestion for Tim to consider "Whose going to be the mother of your children?"

[klisack]

I don't know about who will be the mother of Tim's children but how about the comment from Matt to Tracy about being sexually attracted to her. WOW

[2observe]

Any thoughts on Tracy's suggestion for Tim to consider "Whose going to be the mother of your children?"

That could go either way, but I think that Sara is probably more patient & nourishing which would make her a great mother.

[Beb]

Nope. Hailey tweets and posts things about the show but mostly about how nice everyone is and poking fun at herself. Jenna posts things about the show...and how nice everyone is and then occasionally (rarely but occasionally) lets something snarky fly. She's true to herself, she's done the same thing on the show. Sara has begun recently to post romantic photos of her and Tim. Nobody else is doing that. I don't know her, but she seems like a grownup who (as Litta said about Jenna) wouldn't do something like that out of spite.

And I would have to wonder why she feels it's ok to do that? Maybe she's F1 and is sick of reading about Jenna being F1 here?

I've had a problem with the Jenna storyline from the get-go. It didn't seem like it made sense as a story arc. Also, the clues seemed a little too easy. So, I thought it might be Hailey. She had a bunch of stuff on her social media that made me think it was her.

But now, if you step back, and look at the big picture, it's all starting to make sense for it to be Sara. I'm speaking from a puzzle pieces perspective. Not because I like this girl or that girl. Or I'm invested in this girl or the other from some kind of personal ownership thing.

Seems like the way to get to F1 is to come up with a solid theory, and then see if you can shoot it down. If you can't, then you have it. If you can - or if there's anomalies that you can't make sense of - then, you start trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together so that it does make sense.

At this moment, a lot of the social media stuff - and a big chunk of the storyline - are pointing towards Sara. Could the producers be throwing us another wobbly? I hope so. That's what makes it fun. IMO. But right now, Sara makes sense to me.

Beb, based on the edit alone, Sara would seem to be F1 to me, too, at this point. She seems to be making steps forward from a storyline perspective each week. Tim's divorce was initiated by his wife, so in that sense she quit on him (not blaming her, just trying to establish part of Tim's wound). So indeed, Sara seems like the most sensible choice. She's beautiful. She shares his passion for music. She's loyal and faithful...someone Tim could trust. She seems grounded from her faith and the life experiences that she has gone through. Sara's solid. She know who she is and knows what she wants. Sara's seemingly perfect for him. Tim's family seems to like her as a good choice for Tim. She's more than the safe choice, but she is the safe choice. Tim seems in the SB episode to make a shift towards Sara, saying he needs to rethink everything.

But now my question is this, why are the producers bringing this out now without any other strong contender, but Jenna? Jenna has clearly been hidden in the last two episodes and seems to be falling behind. So who is Sara's competition based on the edit? Just Jenna, who is being shown in a somewhat poor light in these last two episodes...that's what the edit wants you to believe. So now, Sara will have Tim meet her parents with girl's hometown. She will visit Tim's hometown. Then the finale occurs. Based on the edit, Sara is already about to win, but there are three more episodes to go, or at least, three significant pieces to the journey. Something's off on that to me. She's peaking too soon.

I'm not sure I'm explaining my point well enough, but the fact that Sara is coming on so strong in these last two episodes, without the edit showing Jenna at least holding her own, makes me suspect. From what we see, Jenna's edit is going in reverse. Some of the screencaps (the noodle date, Tim kissing Jenna on this last date) show there was much more than the edit was willing to allow us to believe. So who are the editors really hiding? What story are we not seeing? IMO, the show is trying to make you believe one thing, but something else equally important is going on with Jenna. We are not allowed to see it, however.

All that to say, I still think Jenna is a strong contender for F1. If Jenna's not allowed to make a come back by the edit in the next couple of weeks, won't it seem too obvious, too soon that Sara is F1?

And just to be clear to where I stand, I still believe firmly that Jenna is F1. I'm posing the above questions for those who doubt Jenna is F1...help me understand why the story is peaking to Sara now with three significant parts of the journey to go ?

Actually, just 2. Her family and then, Austin. Then, the finale. Not sure what the finale means - I'm a virgin here- but I assume that's more of the mancave/checkerboard lite up floors/hunger games elevator shafts/hollywood squares/secret gardens/annoying reality couple hosts and sparkly dresses.

But yes, they are certainly setting up a Sara and Jenna (who peaked waaaay before Sara did) battle to the end.

Someone asked about family comments in this thread or another one...I'm not familiar enough with the Bachelor to know if you can read into what Mom/Dad/Sis have to say. But, it struck me that Mr. Lopez is one of those still water guys who doesn't suffer fools and is careful with his words.
He was pretty clear about what he thought of Jenna. Nice girl, enjoyed the heck out of her, sweet as pie - but the jury's out on whether she's emotionally mature enough to sustain a relationship. And that's what keeps getting me about Jenna as F1.

I repeat. Do not know the girl. But we've now heard that same thing from Hailey/Sara/Siham/MM's/Colete Lopez/John Lopez and in couched language. Tim. Even Matt whats-his-face gave Tracy this look of disgusted angst when Jenna came back up in that Barbie tube. So yes, there's stuff on the edit room floor but I keep asking myself, why do the producers keep sharing that with us? I mean, if Jenna is F1 and they let her continue to be the 'too young' winner - their matchmaking show looks stupid, Tim looks stupid and John Lopez eats his hat. Not to mention really awkward Thanksgivings in Santa Barbara.

So, maybe she completely blows everyone away in the next episode. But they have to somehow clear that up and pay-it-off or it doesn't make sense. Can't figure out why they would keep pounding it into our heads, otherwise. Maybe she secretly runs an orphanage in her hometown or something...IDK. Any of you Bachelor fans able to comment on the family thing?

[Beb]

And let me just clarify...all this has NOTHING TO DO WITH HER AGE. Matt Hussey is only a couple years older than Jenna. Siham a year. Angela, I think is the same age. That's not what they're commenting on. It's personal to her. You can be well into middle age and emotionally immature. I'm the perfect example of that.

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