Re: Tim Lopez - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Thread #3

[iamreal2u]

the girls in their boxes - so you can see the difference between what we established 5'9 and 5'2 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Did you see the first picture(1 0f 26) of this group. Is that the look of love on Tim's face? For some reason I cannot get the pict posted.

[Litta123]

IMO the f1s are the ones that the producers made it seem the most awkward with the families to throw off the scent lol. Ex. Shandi with the cooking comment and the awkward beginning tyo Jenna's family time.

Gah! I should just give up posting altogether until I've read through every thread. Sorry, queenbean, I just posted these same thoughts in the episode thread. At least, I know I wasn't imagining it.

[queenbean]

the girls in their boxes - so you can see the difference between what we established 5'9 and 5'2 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Did you see the first picture(1 0f 26) of this group. Is that the look of love on Tim's face? For some reason I cannot get the pict posted.

I love picture 5 they all look so happy and relaxed.

[queenbean]

IMO the f1s are the ones that the producers made it seem the most awkward with the families to throw off the scent lol. Ex. Shandi with the cooking comment and the awkward beginning tyo Jenna's family time.

Gah! I should just give up posting altogether until I've read through every thread. Sorry, queenbean, I just posted these same thoughts in the episode thread. At least, I know I wasn't imagining it.

No you weren't lol. Keep posting I love to hear everyone's opinions and perspectives. I wish I could think back to past bachelor/bachette shows with the meet the parents and the outcomes. Any insight?

[Litta123]

cma yes, Siham was NOT happy and I bet it killed her to get let go over Jenna. Sara & Hailey's looks also when they saw Jenna, like 'uh oh, should I be worried'.

tiger love what you said in your last post!

Actually, I thought Hailey's look to Jenna seemed really sweet. I'll need to watch again, but what I thought I saw was genuine friendship. If not, maybe it was confirmation/resolution in Hailey's heart and brain that she, Hailey, wasn't going to be F1. Anyway, the smile seemed really tender, sweet and genuine to me. Maybe I just like Hailey and like to give her positive motivations in my mind...lol!

[Beb]

I don't see how its any different than Sara's tweets and pics....

The difference is that Sara is F1.

[queenbean]

I don't see how its any different than Sara's tweets and pics....

The difference is that Sara is F1.

I didn't mean it in that context. I meant someone stated Jenna might be doing it to make the other girls jealous or something like that. But Sara and Hailey tweet the same kinds of things about the show/tim. Do you know something we don't that Sara is F1 who is your source lol :-)

[LoveDovez]

I agree with alot of you on that you feel Tim and Sara do not have a passion or connection. Everytime she brings up the fact that her ex died of cancer and she stuck with him- which is truly admirable and I feel for her thats a loss I never want to experience, I do cringe. How many times does she have to bring that up? It just looks to me like she is trying to make herself into the perfect mate for Tim and that they would be so perfect. If you can't tell I am on the Jenna ship ;). However, something that made me stop and think was Tim telling Sara that he has to spread himself thin with the girls and wishes he was like Ernesto with the kissing. What made him say that to her?

This is so long sorry! Also in his PI he said he is falling in love and she is a great girl but to me that looked spliced into Sara's segment notice he didn't say her name or any identifying factor was shown to whom he was referring. He looked like he was going to cry in the garden after he said Jenna's name. Also I caught a look between them when he gave out the flowers. I did catch a smile from Sara to Tim as well but his back was to the camera. AAAA this is driving me crazy I just want to watch the finale and get on with my life LOL!! Any other thoughts?

IMO.. To me, there are many types of friends and I feel like that's where Tim has Sara in his mind right now. Sure, it's a different type of friend than what he sees in Hailey or that he saw in Shiham (sp) She has nailed it home so much that she is loyal and that he can trust her with anything and that's what he's doing. He's trusting her with some of the things he's feelings, but it's not because she's F1. It's because he feels like she's there to be his friend first then she's hoping his partner, but I don't ever see it getting there. Of course, I could be totally wrong. LOL.

[Beb]

I don't see how its any different than Sara's tweets and pics....

The difference is that Sara is F1.

I didn't mean it in that context. I meant someone stated Jenna might be doing it to make the other girls jealous or something like that. But Sara and Hailey tweet the same kinds of things about the show/tim. Do you know something we don't that Sara is F1 who is your source lol :-)

Nope. Hailey tweets and posts things about the show but mostly about how nice everyone is and poking fun at herself. Jenna posts things about the show...and how nice everyone is and then occasionally (rarely but occasionally) lets something snarky fly. She's true to herself, she's done the same thing on the show. Sara has begun recently to post romantic photos of her and Tim. Nobody else is doing that. I don't know her, but she seems like a grownup who (as Litta said about Jenna) wouldn't do something like that out of spite.

And I would have to wonder why she feels it's ok to do that? Maybe she's F1 and is sick of reading about Jenna being F1 here?

I've had a problem with the Jenna storyline from the get-go. It didn't seem like it made sense as a story arc. Also, the clues seemed a little too easy. So, I thought it might be Hailey. She had a bunch of stuff on her social media that made me think it was her.

But now, if you step back, and look at the big picture, it's all starting to make sense for it to be Sara. I'm speaking from a puzzle pieces perspective. Not because I like this girl or that girl. Or I'm invested in this girl or the other from some kind of personal ownership thing.

Seems like the way to get to F1 is to come up with a solid theory, and then see if you can shoot it down. If you can't, then you have it. If you can - or if there's anomalies that you can't make sense of - then, you start trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together so that it does make sense.

At this moment, a lot of the social media stuff - and a big chunk of the storyline - are pointing towards Sara. Could the producers be throwing us another wobbly? I hope so. That's what makes it fun. IMO. But right now, Sara makes sense to me.

[queenbean]

Beb I like what you have to say it made me think :-). I have to admit that this episode really did throw me for a loop if you look up to my previous post about some of the things tim said to Sara. I mostly pay attention to body language in the episodes and certain sleuthy type posts on here. I am new to the forum so I am not too good at putting together theories and sleuthing yet. I'm trying!! I do like Jenna and I hate when people bring up her age and immaturity because those are obstacles I had to face when I got married at 18 and 4 1/2 years later we are still going strong. With Sara it just seems so forced and fake to me but then again we don't know half of the stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor. As to what the girls are posting join their twitter I am just not putting to much stock in it they could be trying to throw people off or the show is telling them what to tweet. They doing still get advertising dollars from hulu, commercials etc. Anyways this is a jumbled mess of a post sorry...

[Beb]

Beb I like what you have to say it made me think :-). I have to admit that this episode really did throw me for a loop if you look up to my previous post about some of the things tim said to Sara. I mostly pay attention to body language in the episodes and certain sleuthy type posts on here. I am new to the forum so I am not too good at putting together theories and sleuthing yet. I'm trying!! I do like Jenna and I hate when people bring up her age and immaturity because those are obstacles I had to face when I got married at 18 and 4 1/2 years later we are still going strong. With Sara it just seems so forced and fake to me but then again we don't know half of the stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor. As to what the girls are posting join their twitter I am just not putting to much stock in it they could be trying to throw people off or the show is telling them what to tweet. They doing still get advertising dollars from hulu, commercials etc. Anyways this is a jumbled mess of a post sorry...

I get it totally. It's really hard to separate your personal experience from what's happening in a fairy tale story you're invested in. It's impossible to be subjective. That's completely understandable and the producers of these shows play to those emotions in a really clever way. This girl's the young, sexy one...that one is soulful, this is the BFF.

I'm new to this site too. Didn't know this world existed until I stumbled across it by accident when this show started. I was super excited because it seemed like a fun game to see if you could outsmart the producers. I've stuck with it - even though I didn't think I would (I actually thinks RFL, the show, comes pretty close to jumping the shark!) but seems like the closer we get to the end, everyone digs in on their favorite and starts trying to rationalize the clues that don't "fit" with whatever girl they're cheering on.

Maybe that's the entire point of this and I'm missing the boat completely.

But it seems like there's the beginning of a paradigm shift in the show. I personally thought it happened at the tree. Tim said "he needed to rethink everything..." And I don't know if that's misdirection or if the story arc was twisting and heading off into the final solution. It feels like a lot of the 'clues' support the twist. And the story line we've now seen for 2- 3 episodes certainly does.

It just seems like everyone has stopped challenging and dug in. Like I said, maybe that's the point and I wasn't getting it.

[Litta123]

Nope. Hailey tweets and posts things about the show but mostly about how nice everyone is and poking fun at herself. Jenna posts things about the show...and how nice everyone is and then occasionally (rarely but occasionally) lets something snarky fly. She's true to herself, she's done the same thing on the show. Sara has begun recently to post romantic photos of her and Tim. Nobody else is doing that. I don't know her, but she seems like a grownup who (as Litta said about Jenna) wouldn't do something like that out of spite.

And I would have to wonder why she feels it's ok to do that? Maybe she's F1 and is sick of reading about Jenna being F1 here?

I've had a problem with the Jenna storyline from the get-go. It didn't seem like it made sense as a story arc. Also, the clues seemed a little too easy. So, I thought it might be Hailey. She had a bunch of stuff on her social media that made me think it was her.

But now, if you step back, and look at the big picture, it's all starting to make sense for it to be Sara. I'm speaking from a puzzle pieces perspective. Not because I like this girl or that girl. Or I'm invested in this girl or the other from some kind of personal ownership thing.

Seems like the way to get to F1 is to come up with a solid theory, and then see if you can shoot it down. If you can't, then you have it. If you can - or if there's anomalies that you can't make sense of - then, you start trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together so that it does make sense.

At this moment, a lot of the social media stuff - and a big chunk of the storyline - are pointing towards Sara. Could the producers be throwing us another wobbly? I hope so. That's what makes it fun. IMO. But right now, Sara makes sense to me.

Beb, based on the edit alone, Sara would seem to be F1 to me, too, at this point. She seems to be making steps forward from a storyline perspective each week. Tim's divorce was initiated by his wife, so in that sense she quit on him (not blaming her, just trying to establish part of Tim's wound). So indeed, Sara seems like the most sensible choice. She's beautiful. She shares his passion for music. She's loyal and faithful...someone Tim could trust. She seems grounded from her faith and the life experiences that she has gone through. Sara's solid. She know who she is and knows what she wants. Sara's seemingly perfect for him. Tim's family seems to like her as a good choice for Tim. She's more than the safe choice, but she is the safe choice. Tim seems in the SB episode to make a shift towards Sara, saying he needs to rethink everything.

But now my question is this, why are the producers bringing this out now without any other strong contender, but Jenna? Jenna has clearly been hidden in the last two episodes and seems to be falling behind. So who is Sara's competition based on the edit? Just Jenna, who is being shown in a somewhat poor light in these last two episodes...that's what the edit wants you to believe. So now, Sara will have Tim meet her parents with girl's hometown. She will visit Tim's hometown. Then the finale occurs. Based on the edit, Sara is already about to win, but there are three more episodes to go, or at least, three significant pieces to the journey. Something's off on that to me. She's peaking too soon.

I'm not sure I'm explaining my point well enough, but the fact that Sara is coming on so strong in these last two episodes, without the edit showing Jenna at least holding her own, makes me suspect. From what we see, Jenna's edit is going in reverse. Some of the screencaps (the noodle date, Tim kissing Jenna on this last date) show there was much more than the edit was willing to allow us to believe. So who are the editors really hiding? What story are we not seeing? IMO, the show is trying to make you believe one thing, but something else equally important is going on with Jenna. We are not allowed to see it, however.

All that to say, I still think Jenna is a strong contender for F1. If Jenna's not allowed to make a come back by the edit in the next couple of weeks, won't it seem too obvious, too soon that Sara is F1?

And just to be clear to where I stand, I still believe firmly that Jenna is F1. I'm posing the above questions for those who doubt Jenna is F1...help me understand why the story is peaking to Sara now with three significant parts of the journey to go ?

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