Re: Tim Lopez - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Thread #3

by Guest Sun May 12, 2013 8:38 pm

In the picture of Tim and Hailey, when Hailey is crying, Tim has on a checked shirt and during all the other eliminations he has on a suit coat....wonder why..or maybe its not a elimination... just wondering what everyone else thinks..

by Iluvbachette Sun May 12, 2013 8:50 pm

cookie wrote:In the picture of Tim and Hailey, when Hailey is crying, Tim has on a checked shirt and during all the other eliminations he has on a suit coat....wonder why..or maybe its not a elimination... just wondering what everyone else thinks..

I first thought it was Tim telling her he wasn't picking her. And that she would be eliminated in Hawaii. But that isn't the case because all 5 girls are on stage at the end.

by Iluvbachette Sun May 12, 2013 8:52 pm

Can anyone confirm that we do in fact have 2 episodes in June. June 4, Tuesday and Sunday June 9th.

by LoveThisStuff Sun May 12, 2013 8:55 pm

I think because of the confrontation Siham and Jenna go to the garden and Siham goes home. I think they'll give Hailey a break this week and not send her to the garden.

by Guest Sun May 12, 2013 9:14 pm

Lets hope... poor Hailey has had so much negativity from the mm...just for being herself...nothings wrong or negative about being yourself...what a way to do someones confidence in...a person can only take so much...hope he's worth it...lol

by Iluvbachette Sun May 12, 2013 9:33 pm

LoveThisStuff wrote:I think because of the confrontation Siham and Jenna go to the garden and Siham goes home. I think they'll give Hailey a break this week and not send her to the garden.

You could be right about the garden. But I was thinking more on Sarah leaving this week. However if Siham and Jenna they might want to keep them both another week. So Hailey could go down again with Sarah. And he could save Hailey again. It's getting to crunch time these next two weeks is anyone's guess. I still think there might be a possibility of 2 girls going at once. It just depends on the number of weeks left. If they have been extended into June.

by Guest Sun May 12, 2013 9:41 pm

Iluvbachette wrote:Can anyone confirm that we do in fact have 2 episodes in June. June 4, Tuesday and Sunday June 9th.

All I saw (where I can't remember) was that there were supposed to be 8 episodes in all and Finale was the 9th, so who knows. I was thinking there will probably be a few episodes split. So we should have 3 full episodes left? Hawaii, back to CA, finale?

Wonder what is said to make Siham go off like that?

by Iluvbachette Sun May 12, 2013 11:44 pm

Lost17 wrote:
Iluvbachette wrote:Can anyone confirm that we do in fact have 2 episodes in June. June 4, Tuesday and Sunday June 9th.
All I saw (where I can't remember) was that there were supposed to be 8 episodes in all and Finale was the 9th, so who knows. I was thinking there will probably be a few episodes split. So we should have 3 full episodes left? Hawaii, back to CA, finale?

Wonder what is said to make Siham go off like that?

I don't know what sets the confrontation off. If drama is envolved you will definately see it on tv.

by 2observe Mon May 13, 2013 12:00 am

cookie wrote:In the picture of Tim and Hailey, when Hailey is crying, Tim has on a checked shirt and during all the other eliminations he has on a suit coat....wonder why..or maybe its not a elimination... just wondering what everyone else thinks..

Doesn't Hailey has a picture with a guy with a checked shirt (his face is cut off) on her Instagram??? Maybe we should see it the checked shirts match, lol.

by Guest Mon May 13, 2013 12:01 am

GOOD IDEA

by Litta123 Mon May 13, 2013 12:04 am

I spent a little time going through Tim's IG pics. Now that I know that Lavazak is Sara's Mom, it jumped out at me. She has commented on at least 3 other photos of Tim's since the S.B. photo on Aug 20. She also has liked a multitude of other photos that Tim has posted. If Sara is indeed the F1, isn't this walking dangerously close to the line? Once, maybe twice, she might be hoping to slip under the radar, posting because of her enthusiasm, but the number of times she's commented or liked causes me to question it, assuming the F1's behavior (and family's) needs to be careful because of the penalties. I know that Jenna's postings have also been close to the line, but none of them have ever directly connected Jenna to Tim. We were the one's to make the connection by piecing together evidence.

Another thing I noticed is that Jenna is the only one of Tim's final five that has never directly commented on any of Tim's IG photos. Jenna has been noticeably quiet, IMO, on twitter regarding her dates with Tim since we connected her to the PWT's Hollywood activities on this site. She'll tweet about the show and she'll tweet to other girls from the show, but she doesn't mention how great the dates were for her (and they were great IMO...the strip pool date and the beach date). Previously she did comment how the water pool date was such a great date and so on.

Sara, on the other hand, seems to be commenting a lot on FB about singing with Tim two episodes ago and then about the last episode under the tree. Why is Sara talking, but not Jenna? Is Jenna scared because of the dangers of being connected to Tim? Is she intentionally keeping a low profile, worried about the penalties?

Something is not fitting together for me. I asked myself why would Sara and her family seem to be so gracious about Sara's experience if she were to be rejected by Tim? This is the one answer I have come up with and of course it's IMO.

This is a quote from Sara in the last episode, "This moment of sitting by the tree and being with Tim in that moment was for the first time this real connection that I have not had." Sara was sooo happy and the audience applauded. (I presume that to mean since Timmy died.) I was struck how she seemed so happy that she could make a connection again. She seemed equally excited about the ability to connect as it was about connecting with Tim. Make sense?

So assuming Sara was rejected by Tim, would it seem reasonable that she could look back on this experience happily? I would say yes if she realized (and her family realized) that she will be able to move forward and love again...even if it's without Tim Lopez.

This was Jenna's statement in the last episode, "I loved how it was just me and him on the beach. It was just sort of really painting a picture of what my future could be like with this man" (her voice breaks on "this man"). It seemed to me that Jenna was really falling for this man, Tim...maybe not in love yet, but on her way. I ask myself why would she be so happy on August 20 to tweet, "Tonight was AMAZINGGGGG!!!! So happy" less than one week after the finale. Jenna was still in California. If she were rejected and had a broken heart, why would she want to go hang with Tim and the PWT's in Hollywood just two months later? (And why would Sara be okay with that, considering Tim's and Jenna's chemistry?) It doesn't make sense to me.

I know that I am filtering everything through the "Jenna is F1 lens" and trying to understand the behavior of what I am seeing both on and off the show. I would love if someone who wears the "Sara is F1 lens" could explain how they interpret the these above statements from the show and these above post show behaviors.

If I'm wrong about Jenna, what am I not seeing?

by docnash14 Mon May 13, 2013 12:18 am

Litta123 wrote:I spent a little time going through Tim's IG pics. Now that I know that Lavazak is Sara's Mom, it jumped out at me. She has commented on at least 3 other photos of Tim's since the S.B. photo on Aug 20. She also has liked a multitude of other photos that Tim has posted. If Sara is indeed the F1, isn't this walking dangerously close to the line? Once, maybe twice, she might be hoping to slip under the radar, posting because of her enthusiasm, but the number of times she's commented or liked causes me to question it, assuming the F1's behavior (and family's) needs to be careful because of the penalties. I know that Jenna's postings have also been close to the line, but none of them have ever directly connected Jenna to Tim. We were the one's to make the connection by piecing together evidence.

Another thing I noticed is that Jenna is the only one of Tim's final five that has never directly commented on any of Tim's IG photos. Jenna has been noticeably quiet, IMO, on twitter regarding her dates with Tim since we connected her to the PWT's Hollywood activities on this site. She'll tweet about the show and she'll tweet to other girls from the show, but she doesn't mention how great the dates were for her (and they were great IMO...the strip pool date and the beach date). Previously she did comment how the water pool date was such a great date and so on.

Sara, on the other hand, seems to be commenting a lot on FB about singing with Tim two episodes ago and then about the last episode under the tree. Why is Sara talking, but not Jenna? Is Jenna scared because of the dangers of being connected to Tim? Is she intentionally keeping a low profile, worried about the penalties?

Something is not fitting together for me. I asked myself why would Sara and her family seem to be so gracious about Sara's experience if she were to be rejected by Tim? This is the one answer I have come up with and of course it's IMO.

This is a quote from Sara in the last episode, "This moment of sitting by the tree and being with Tim in that moment was for the first time this real connection that I have not had." Sara was sooo happy and the audience applauded. (I presume that to mean since Timmy died.) I was struck how she seemed so happy that she could make a connection again. She seemed equally excited about the ability to connect as it was about connecting with Tim. Make sense?

So assuming Sara was rejected by Tim, would it seem reasonable that she could look back on this experience happily? I would say yes if she realized (and her family realized) that she will be able to move forward and love again...even if it's without Tim Lopez.

This was Jenna's statement in the last episode, "I loved how it was just me and him on the beach. It was just sort of really painting a picture of what my future could be like with this man" (her voice breaks on "this man"). It seemed to me that Jenna was really falling for this man, Tim...maybe not in love yet, but on her way. I ask myself why would she be so happy on August 20 to tweet, "Tonight was AMAZINGGGGG!!!! So happy" less than one week after the finale. Jenna was still in California. If she were rejected and had a broken heart, why would she want to go hang with Tim and the PWT's in Hollywood just two months later? (And why would Sara be okay with that, considering Tim's and Jenna's chemistry?) It doesn't make sense to me.

I know that I am filtering everything through the "Jenna is F1 lens" and trying to understand the behavior of what I am seeing both on and off the show. I would love if someone who wears the "Sara is F1 lens" could explain how they interpret the these above statements from the show and these above post show behaviors.

If I'm wrong about Jenna, what am I not seeing?

I think your argument is quite sound and believe most of the arrows point to Jenna. Further, what you are theorizing about Sara seems very plausible to me. And it seems pretty clear to me that Tim did not burn any bridges with any of the women whom we think are the final three (Jenna, Sara and Hailey); in addition to what you mentioned above about Sara's mom, Sara's brother-in-law is following Tim on twitter and Sara's dad has posted positive comments. As I indicated elsewhere, Jenna's brother is following Tim on twitter and I believe Hailey is as well. That all being said, I agree that something seems odd.

I am not sure whose voice it is saying that she thought they (she and Tim) had more - I do think though that it is Sara saying, "There is something that is happening to us that words don’t describe."

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