Re: Episode 10 (Finale) - 3/11 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Kwpn12 Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:58 pm

in2deep wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

Doesn't intend to propose... respectfully, I don't think TPTB would allow that after Brad 1.0. Also, he seems to have at least looked at rings, even if it was producer-driven. I suspect (JMHO) that this season was far less unsure than we are all led to believe for the sake of drama and ratings. BL discussed above is particularly indicative of unhideable truth.

We'll know no more after tonight, but we'll know a lot more in 8 days. I, too, am curious as heck about the letter.

I'm fairly certain that TPTB don't force the lead to propose.

by elyn Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:08 pm

Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

I don't know about the game-changing development, but I could see Sean being conflicted about proposing. The romance on this show is always fast-paced, but with Catherine's late date, this time it was practically breakneck. I think this is a possibility for the letter.

by veg_out Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:12 pm

Kwpn12 wrote:
in2deep wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

Doesn't intend to propose... respectfully, I don't think TPTB would allow that after Brad 1.0. Also, he seems to have at least looked at rings, even if it was producer-driven. I suspect (JMHO) that this season was far less unsure than we are all led to believe for the sake of drama and ratings. BL discussed above is particularly indicative of unhideable truth.

We'll know no more after tonight, but we'll know a lot more in 8 days. I, too, am curious as heck about the letter.

I'm fairly certain that TPTB don't force the lead to propose.

Perhaps "force" isn't the correct word. Perhaps "manipulate." TPTB create an illusion of trust with their charges, making recommendations, suggestions. They highlight this or that about one person vs. another. I suspect that Sean may not have wanted to propose but several details were executed to ensure that a proposal was had. See letter.

by Kashathediva Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:24 pm

veg_out wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:
in2deep wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

Doesn't intend to propose... respectfully, I don't think TPTB would allow that after Brad 1.0. Also, he seems to have at least looked at rings, even if it was producer-driven. I suspect (JMHO) that this season was far less unsure than we are all led to believe for the sake of drama and ratings. BL discussed above is particularly indicative of unhideable truth.

We'll know no more after tonight, but we'll know a lot more in 8 days. I, too, am curious as heck about the letter.

I'm fairly certain that TPTB don't force the lead to propose.

Perhaps "force" isn't the correct word. Perhaps "manipulate." TPTB create an illusion of trust with their charges, making recommendations, suggestions. They highlight this or that about one person vs. another. I suspect that Sean may not have wanted to propose but several details were executed to ensure that a proposal was had. See letter.

Well...
Yanno something is being suggested whether it be as a result of water boarding or electroshock treatment or cult type brainwashing or just the hamburger theory in reverse, because there has not been a bach or 'ette that has not proposed since Brad 1.0. No one has received a plane ticket to visit ala Jesse Palmer, either.

I don't believe in coincidences. Just me. Praying

by veg_out Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:32 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
veg_out wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:
in2deep wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

Doesn't intend to propose... respectfully, I don't think TPTB would allow that after Brad 1.0. Also, he seems to have at least looked at rings, even if it was producer-driven. I suspect (JMHO) that this season was far less unsure than we are all led to believe for the sake of drama and ratings. BL discussed above is particularly indicative of unhideable truth.

We'll know no more after tonight, but we'll know a lot more in 8 days. I, too, am curious as heck about the letter.

I'm fairly certain that TPTB don't force the lead to propose.

Perhaps "force" isn't the correct word. Perhaps "manipulate." TPTB create an illusion of trust with their charges, making recommendations, suggestions. They highlight this or that about one person vs. another. I suspect that Sean may not have wanted to propose but several details were executed to ensure that a proposal was had. See letter.

Well...
Yanno something is being suggested whether it be as a result of water boarding or electroshock treatment or cult type brainwashing or just the hamburger theory in reverse, because there has not been a bach or 'ette that has not proposed since Brad 1.0. No one has received a plane ticket to visit ala Jesse Palmer, either.
I don't believe in coincidences. Just me.

Yes, Kash, and sometimes a Maynard is just a Maynard. Hugesmile

by eliza3 Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:35 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
veg_out wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:
in2deep wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

Doesn't intend to propose... respectfully, I don't think TPTB would allow that after Brad 1.0. Also, he seems to have at least looked at rings, even if it was producer-driven. I suspect (JMHO) that this season was far less unsure than we are all led to believe for the sake of drama and ratings. BL discussed above is particularly indicative of unhideable truth.

We'll know no more after tonight, but we'll know a lot more in 8 days. I, too, am curious as heck about the letter.

I'm fairly certain that TPTB don't force the lead to propose.

Perhaps "force" isn't the correct word. Perhaps "manipulate." TPTB create an illusion of trust with their charges, making recommendations, suggestions. They highlight this or that about one person vs. another. I suspect that Sean may not have wanted to propose but several details were executed to ensure that a proposal was had. See letter.

Well...
Yanno something is being suggested whether it be as a result of water boarding or electroshock treatment or cult type brainwashing or just the hamburger theory in reverse, because there has not been a bach or 'ette that has not proposed since Brad 1.0. No one has received a plane ticket to visit ala Jesse Palmer, either.
I don't believe in coincidences. Just me.

How heartbreaking for Catherine if he was that unsure of their relationship and a letter changed his mind. I wouldn't give them any chance at all if that is how it came down.

by jcrbil Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:39 pm

How heartbreaking for Catherine if he was that unsure of their relationship and a letter changed his mind. I wouldn't give them any chance at all if that is how it came down.

I think at this point, we have nothing more than conjecture to go on vis a vis the letter, its contents, its purpose, or whether IT was the game changer or something else was. So don't get your heart all broken yet.

And it was now months ago- I'm sure they've moved on from there.

by Kwpn12 Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:43 pm

And according to Lesley, they're "madly in love". :yes:

by eliza3 Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:47 pm

jcrbil wrote:How heartbreaking for Catherine if he was that unsure of their relationship and a letter changed his mind. I wouldn't give them any chance at all if that is how it came down.

I think at this point, we have nothing more than conjecture to go on vis a vis the letter, its contents, its purpose, or whether IT was the game changer or something else was. So don't get your heart all broken yet.

And it was now months ago- I'm sure they've moved on from there.

My heart isn't all broken at all. I was simply speculating on the emotions if that is how it came down. Nothing more.

by Archer23 Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:58 pm

Kwpn12 wrote:Maybe the "game-changing development" is that Sean doesn't intend to actually propose to Catherine (though he intends to pick her), but that her letter leads him to propose.

If that's the case, I'll be interested to know what changes after FDs, when he told Chris he was in love, and "Yeah, I think I will get down on one knee."

by Love_Me Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:43 pm

Kwpn12 wrote:And according to Lesley, they're "madly in love".

Did she say this in a recent interview?

by Kwpn12 Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:08 am

Love_Me wrote:
Kwpn12 wrote:And according to Lesley, they're "madly in love".

Did she say this in a recent interview?

Yes. An interview after WTA. It's on a thread here somewhere. Can't remember where.

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