Re: Episode 2 - 1/14 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

by california90 Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:21 pm

docnash14 wrote:
sbolduc wrote:
jessism wrote:Does anyone else not get the lindsay thing so far? Ive read before the show even started that she was the fan fave and a shoe in as bachelorette but imo she doesnt stand out much good or bad.

I am not getting it either. Lindsay seems nice, cute and sweet but very young and I can't imagine watching an entire season of her being the Bachelorette.

I am so far a Lesley fan, both her personality and her scenes with Sean. Her no kiss scene reminded me of Jef and Emily in Bermuda. They seem to have the chemistry but I am thinking that she is probably a democrat (I am pretty sure RS said she is at a political consulting firm for the Democrat party) and Sean clearly being very conservative played a big part in him sending her home.

I also am starting to like Catherine in what little scenes they show of her. The scenes with her Lesley and Daniella (I think :S) at the end were pretty funny, they just seemed like me and my girlfriends.

I think chemistry wise Des and Lesley are in the lead.

Its funny that someone should mention that everyone assumed that Jef wasn't Emily's type, people assume that Sean wants the blonde big haired conservative girl. However based on the girls that he is showing interest in they all seem bubbly, a little quirky and confident, a little different from Emily who is more on the reserved side.

I like Lesley too. While it's possible that her being a Democrat influenced Sean, it's very clear that most of Catherine's family are very liberal (to which I can relate) and her bff Crista follows President Obama on twitter - of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Catherine follows suit. On a different note, it seems that at this point in the season Catherine and Lesley are becoming friendly as they seem to be next to each other in many of the SC's.

I actually noticed this earlier too! I think they might have similar personalities. Lesley seemed to have a bit awkwardness in personality (like a fun, but awkward and clearly smart) and Catherine also has a bit of a weirdness in her (obviously from the random things she says). I deff could see them being friends on the show.

Also - I really want them to show more of a connection with Catherine next episode. As a fan, I'm dying to see a spark more than 5 seconds. And everyone that isn't a fan are annoyed at how people "love" Catherine because they dont see it yet. I just wanna get the audience on board lol.

by veg_out Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:34 pm

docnash14 wrote:

Hey, Veg. I definitely concur that they are showing very little of the interaction between Sean and Catherine. I think, however, they are making us aware of her through her many PI's. Further, I think clues are being given as to how he ends up shifting to her. In almost interview he has done, Sean has spoken about how important the personality of the woman is to him (compared to looks). The one bit of the interaction between Sean and Catherine at the cocktail party we were shown was his telling her that she had an "infectious personality."

Hiya, doc! I agree with you. It reminds me of Jef and Emily or Brad and Emily: there're moments between them that show the build rather than head-first intensity. That being said, I think that Des and Sean have the chemistry and the similar values that make a relationship work; it does appear that they continue to grow together in upcoming epis.

It will be very interesting to watch the shift. It helps Sean that he and the show are highlighting his mixed emotions: it'll make it easier on his F1 to overlook the early relationships. Sean seems to be the kind of guy who could successfully navigate the ups-and-downs of his F1's reaction to the season if she is insecure at all. I'm expecting a great love story out of Sean ;)

by Guest Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:36 pm

Kashathediva wrote:

I guess no one else caught that during this serious 1:1 convo with Robyn (that Yawn emphasized was the most important of the night and was so glad she brought up), Yawn called Robyn "Leslie". :shocked!: Anyone doubting it go back and listen it was as clear as a bell to me and I had it replayed.
I wonder why their audio editors did not fix that. It was obvious to me. Strange.
The topic was dating culturally diverse women. Yawn is emphatic about this being the most important question of the evening and how happy he is it was brought up, yet he calls the woman he is speaking to the wrong name.
My take--the editors purposely left it in! Maybe Yawn can't tell some of the MOT gals apart. No wonder he gave out so many roses ahead of time. If you can't remember the name of the woman you are speaking to in a 1:1 and call her by the name of another of the same race, a rose ceremony is a land mine.
This easily could have been edited out. Strange. :giggle:

I think it is unfair to say that, since he admitted thinking Taryn was Diana at one point. I think it has nothing to do with black or white.

by Kashathediva Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:42 pm

sophienette wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:

I guess no one else caught that during this serious 1:1 convo with Robyn (that Yawn emphasized was the most important of the night and was so glad she brought up), Yawn called Robyn "Leslie". :shocked!: Anyone doubting it go back and listen it was as clear as a bell to me and I had it replayed.
I wonder why their audio editors did not fix that. It was obvious to me. Strange.
The topic was dating culturally diverse women. Yawn is emphatic about this being the most important question of the evening and how happy he is it was brought up, yet he calls the woman he is speaking to the wrong name.
My take--the editors purposely left it in! Maybe Yawn can't tell some of the MOT gals apart. No wonder he gave out so many roses ahead of time. If you can't remember the name of the woman you are speaking to in a 1:1 and call her by the name of another of the same race, a rose ceremony is a land mine.
This easily could have been edited out. Strange. :giggle:

I think it is unfair to say that, since he admitted thinking Taryn was Diana at one point. I think it has nothing to do with black or white.

I am not saying it has anything to do with your bolded and sorry you got that message as that was not the intent, at all.
It had to do with the fact Yawn was emphasizing how important the convo was yet could not remember her name and the editors chose to leave that in. That was not an oops on the editors part, it was an on purpose.

by Guest Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:47 pm

Ah! Got it :) Sorry I misunderstood!

by veg_out Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:59 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
It had to do with the fact Yawn was emphasizing how important the convo was yet could not remember her name and the editors chose to leave that in. That was not an oops on the editors part, it was an on purpose.

Hiya, Kash!! :Smiley: Did you get a chance to watch Sean on Kimmel? He pretty much admits to Jimmy that he couldn't keep the details straight on all the girls. Jimmy followed up with the suggestion that he should probably eliminate those girls since that reaction signals a lack of interest. Sean said he fell in line with that reasoning and action.

My take: the diverse cast was more about the show's lawsuit and less about Sean's dating interests. I do think that race doesn't matter to Sean, but that conversation, IMO, was left in there for the show's sake.

Do you think that they left the mistake in there for reasons other than what you previously wrote?

by Kashathediva Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:18 pm

veg_out wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
It had to do with the fact Yawn was emphasizing how important the convo was yet could not remember her name and the editors chose to leave that in. That was not an oops on the editors part, it was an on purpose.

Hiya, Kash!! :Smiley: Did you get a chance to watch Sean on Kimmel? He pretty much admits to Jimmy that he couldn't keep the details straight on all the girls. Jimmy followed up with the suggestion that he should probably eliminate those girls since that reaction signals a lack of interest. Sean said he fell in line with that reasoning and action.

My take: the diverse cast was more about the show's lawsuit and less about Sean's dating interests. I do think that race doesn't matter to Sean, but that conversation, IMO, was left in there for the show's sake.

Do you think that they left the mistake in there for reasons other than what you previously wrote?

I did catch him on Kimmel. I did think the first episode(prior to seeing Kimmel) that the reason he gave out the roses prior to the RC was details/memory/stress overload and certainly not because he was going Bach Rogue and breaking rules. :giggle: And I agree with Kimmel--it makes him look disinterested by doing that. :yes:

I agree with you about the lawsuit comments.
As far as why it was left in there, it was no mistake. The editors and assts. go over and over each frame in detail. I don't think it had anything more or less to do with than just being funny. Yawn maybe trying to make a point that the convo was important to him but the person he was having the convo with(Robyn), not so much.

by umngirl Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:37 pm

Alright some quick thoughts about last night's episode
- I feel like Lesley and I would be best friends. She reminds me so much of my roommate. She is definitely one of my favorites this season. Plus it looks like she actually likes Sean and vice versa.
- Des is adorable. I really like her. I could totally get behind her as the next Bachelorette.
- Catherine has some funny comments thrown in there. It makes me glad we are getting to see that side of her. Plus, it's fun seeing Sean laugh. We didn't get to see that enough last season.
- Tierra is getting on my last nerve. She's just annoying. Plus, I can't stand the gigantic earrings she insists on wearing all the time.
- Kacie was never going to get out of the friend zone. That GDR feels totally producer driven so she thinks she will be safe for awhile only to be let go next time.
- I still don't know half of the girls so I can't really make judgments on them.

by pbmax Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:39 pm

reason wrote:They talk and we dont see the conversation but he was swallowing like he lost his breath around her.

They are hiding it for a reason, must be too obvious.

by Longhornfan Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:22 pm

My favorites this episode were Desiree and Lesley. None of the others stood out to me as much as those two did. I do think that Lindsay redeemed herself though in the scene that they showed of her and Sean talking. But I would not be surprised if Desiree does become a fan favorite.

I know that Tierra is getting the role as this years villian, but so far the producers have not shown exactly what she is doing that irritates the women so much. I guess that that will all be revealed as the season progresses, but Tierra certainly isn't the only one among those women who is being catty. While they were sitting next to each other, getting ready for the photo shoot, Robyn was making some very disparaging remarks about Tierra, and Tierra could hear all of it. The claws have definitely come out, and I am sure that Tierra deserves some of the blame, but it appears that she isn't alone.

by Guest Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:27 pm

Does anyone know where I can watch last night's episode? I've been searching for it but can't find it.. :Frown:

by CHO Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:38 pm

pbmax wrote:
reason wrote:They talk and we dont see the conversation but he was swallowing like he lost his breath around her.

They are hiding it for a reason, must be too obvious.

I agree - when Catherine and Sean are together there is jsut too much electricity ! She is grinning from ear to ear - can ahrdly contain herself - and Sean is so comfortable with her - I think they are trying to hide the connection. The producers will dream up soemthing as to why he didn't spend more time with her. We have seen her happy giddy side and also her serious side - loved her comments about Sean - very well thought out.

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