Episode 6 - November 7th - Discussion - Spoilers

just logic wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

jojo47 wrote:

anders wrote:I'm thinking Whitney doesn't show for the FRC.

I'm with you on this, Anders, and I've thought it for awhile now. I don't think Whitney will be part of the FRC. Not sure if she pulls herself out or if Brad lets her go early.

Regardless, she wasn't Brad's F1 anyways. I think she knew it too.

Yep, and I think that is why the grandstanding in the last epi there too at the end when she had to make a major show of things and pull Brad aside before he could say goodbye to Kara. Talk about a rude thing to do that just shows how little respect she has for others. Then when Brad asked Whit to apologize to Kara, she half heartedly said sorry as she walked back to her place. Shows a great deal of the little character she does have and think it opened Brad's eyes once and for all.

I too think she's known for a bit that she's not the F1 and this was her play to make people think it was her decision and not Brad's. She seems like one of those girls who sense when the guy is getting tired of them and break up with them before they can break up with her. If she didn't know before then his "this is the most selfish thing" should tell her - she seemed a bit shocked to hear him actually say that.

As far as she being shocked, maybe she's just not use to being called on her attitude. To me, she showed little class for sure and it obviously upset Brad too. He never kissed her on the lips, just on her cheek at that time. If he wasn't upset, then why not give her a kiss on her lips as it was obvious that she was trying to angle in for one.

Aunties_Love wrote:

just logic wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

jojo47 wrote:

anders wrote:I'm thinking Whitney doesn't show for the FRC.

I'm with you on this, Anders, and I've thought it for awhile now. I don't think Whitney will be part of the FRC. Not sure if she pulls herself out or if Brad lets her go early.

Regardless, she wasn't Brad's F1 anyways. I think she knew it too.

Yep, and I think that is why the grandstanding in the last epi there too at the end when she had to make a major show of things and pull Brad aside before he could say goodbye to Kara. Talk about a rude thing to do that just shows how little respect she has for others. Then when Brad asked Whit to apologize to Kara, she half heartedly said sorry as she walked back to her place. Shows a great deal of the little character she does have and think it opened Brad's eyes once and for all.

I too think she's known for a bit that she's not the F1 and this was her play to make people think it was her decision and not Brad's. She seems like one of those girls who sense when the guy is getting tired of them and break up with them before they can break up with her. If she didn't know before then his "this is the most selfish thing" should tell her - she seemed a bit shocked to hear him actually say that.

As far as she being shocked, maybe she's just not use to being called on her attitude. To me, she showed little class for sure and it obviously upset Brad too. He never kissed her on the lips, just on her cheek at that time. If he wasn't upset, then why not give her a kiss on her lips as it was obvious that she was trying to angle in for one.

I really enjoyed Brad telling Whit to go and apologize to Kara for her selfish behaviour. Even though it was a half hearted apology, it was kind of like watching a parent send an ill behaved child to their room. I just don't understand why she couldn't wait to spring this newest mood swing on Brad after Kara had already gone. If you have this many doubts about a relationship, then it is not the relationship for you!

Sprite wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

just logic wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

jojo47 wrote:

anders wrote:I'm thinking Whitney doesn't show for the FRC.

I'm with you on this, Anders, and I've thought it for awhile now. I don't think Whitney will be part of the FRC. Not sure if she pulls herself out or if Brad lets her go early.

Regardless, she wasn't Brad's F1 anyways. I think she knew it too.

Yep, and I think that is why the grandstanding in the last epi there too at the end when she had to make a major show of things and pull Brad aside before he could say goodbye to Kara. Talk about a rude thing to do that just shows how little respect she has for others. Then when Brad asked Whit to apologize to Kara, she half heartedly said sorry as she walked back to her place. Shows a great deal of the little character she does have and think it opened Brad's eyes once and for all.

I too think she's known for a bit that she's not the F1 and this was her play to make people think it was her decision and not Brad's. She seems like one of those girls who sense when the guy is getting tired of them and break up with them before they can break up with her. If she didn't know before then his "this is the most selfish thing" should tell her - she seemed a bit shocked to hear him actually say that.

As far as she being shocked, maybe she's just not use to being called on her attitude. To me, she showed little class for sure and it obviously upset Brad too. He never kissed her on the lips, just on her cheek at that time. If he wasn't upset, then why not give her a kiss on her lips as it was obvious that she was trying to angle in for one.

I really enjoyed Brad telling Whit to go and apologize to Kara for her selfish behaviour. Even though it was a half hearted apology, it was kind of like watching a parent send an ill behaved child to their room. I just don't understand why she couldn't wait to spring this newest mood swing on Brad after Kara had already gone. If you have this many doubts about a relationship, then it is not the relationship for you!

Exactly. I really think we are seeing the unwind of their relationship play out. Brad has already spoken about his dislike towards her regarding her in ability to emotionally open up, now with his anger and disappointment in her regarding her latest outburst and him saying flat out to her about the 80% time she's fine the other 20% he really doesn't like. Think we are seeing the beginning of the end of her.

She should have shown the courtesy that Brad showed her when he asked to talk with her during a RC. To show respect for Whitney and the other ladies, he did so before all the roses were handed out. If she wanted to be sure she would receive a rose she could have at least showed respect toward Kara and waited until Brad had said goodbye to her. Thankfully Kara showed dignity when she left.

Anyone figure out that cap of what looks to be him and Whitney on the yaht?

Presuming it takes place during the LCD which are in Barbados.

I'm asking, because her dress looks nothing like that blue one.

Also, why would Brad be crying at the FRC, if Whitney was let go before the FRC?

The whole Whitney scene before and during the RC is again choppy. I'm not sure all the Whitney words we heard were said at this ceremony. Here's an example:
Before the RC it shows Whit in her room wearing the red dress. While she is getting things out of a bag what we hear is a VO "Everything about the date was so romantic and there was nothing I didn't enjoy. Me and Brad we obviously have a physical attraction to each other that's huge but I'm second guessing if I am actually the girl for him." Scene switches to PI with Whit wearing grey sweater very similar to the one she wore on their FD dinner. We see her say "I just don't know if it's, if I am actually ready for you know, if this is actually what I really want." Scene switch back to Wht in red dress talking on cell phone with her sister. We see her saying "I don't know the RC is in a few hours. We had an amazing date last night, it was romantic setting was beautiful and everything was really nice, but I just think the next step in this process is huge for him and I want to go into it with good intentions and I want what's best for him and I want him to be happy too. I really care for him and his feelings mean a lot to me." Her sister tells her to follow her heart, it may not be easiest but it is for the best. Then scene switches back to Whit sitting in her room in red dress. We hear VO saying "I love spending time with him I do and I love the moments that we have together but I just don't know if I am actually ready for the next step. I'm really confused."
This whole scenario is odd. The only time we see words coming from Whit is when she is wearing grey sweater and when she talks with her sister. The conversation with her sister is before the RC but when do any of ther other conversations take place. Are they after the FD (grey sweater), from other dates either before or after FD. Who knows where they have been spliced in from. Oh the drama..... Then there is the whole Whit & Brad conversation when she interrupts Kara's departure, some scenes are ouside and then there are scenes inside, at one point when inside Whit says to Brad "this RC is crucial" when did this happen - the interruption supposedly took place after the RC? After he returned from Kara, what happened to Bianka did they just tell her to go away and then continue conversation inside with Whit. Very bizarre.

atem wrote:I'm asking, because her dress looks nothing like that blue one.

Also, why would Brad be crying at the FRC, if Whitney was let go before the FRC?

This is my thinking, but I am really thinking that when he see's Bianka arrive, he does an oh my god moment and cry's at her beauty when she arrives in the white dress. Call me a hopeless romantic, but think that is maybe what it is.

Does anyone know if there is a link up yet for US viewers?

I am really thinking that when he see's Bianka arrive, he does an oh my god moment and cry's at her beauty

Yup. And they get to milk it in the previews as though its some sort of shocking event that is unfolding.

Has anyone found a link to this ep yet for U.S. viewers who haven't been able to watch? The Canadian version is so fluffy and fun.