Re: Bachelorette 7 General Discussion - Thread #2

by Lucas15 Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:01 pm

Cari wrote:If Lucas is not married, i would have asked him to accept a rose from me. heeee

:blush

I have my own cupcake Cari but I'm so honored by the rose offer.

by dee Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:37 pm

Hey, not sure if anyone can help me; but I was out of town during Canada's day weekend, so I wasn't able to catch up on all the posts. Was there anything new that occurred? Well, anything substantial besides the ET Canada photos? Thanks!

by ironcat Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:10 pm

BlondieGal wrote:
cupcakes wrote:So what do you all think this statement is about?

JP: It makes it a little more difficult for me knowing that she's probably not in love with me.

Do we see him say this? I wonder if this is one of those scripted lines that the finalists have to all say?

The meaning of this quote could also be changed considerably is there was actually a clause in front of it that was chopped off, such as "If Ashley is developing really strong feelings for Ben, it makes it a little more difficult..." The only thing we know for sure is that they have to start injecting some doubt into JP's edit, because at this point, everyone thinks he has this in the bag, and we still have several episodes to go.

by noobsleuth Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:45 am

Alanna wrote:I'm guessing it's from next week- he sees Ben spend the night with her and then Lucas and Ames all over her on the group date, and it really gets to him. I really hope he handles it well and they don't show him being over the top crazy or possessive though. It's going to be impossible for me to continue to root for them if we see him acting crazy and especially if he makes Ashley upset or feel insecure, or if he manipulates her for the GDR like Blake. Yikes!

I really hope he tells her and they discuss everything and she makes him feel better like he did for her last week. Then they're on track for a happy ending and most importantly, a healthy, normal relationship outside the show.

The bolded reminds me of how you were last season lol. After Costa Rica you wanted Chantal to have nothing to do with Brad because of the way they started to show him treating the women. I think maybe at this point Bremily was on the rocks IRL and it was Brad's fault. Maybe she poked the bear and they were broken up. For whatever reason Dr. Jamie went out the window and old Brad started to return. All the while Bremily was falling apart for real.

FF to this season. So far JP's edit has been favorable. Things are all rainbows and cupcakes. If next week we see ugly, possessive JP rear his ugly head my guess is that there might be trouble in paradise IRL. And intuitive fans like yourself catch on and prep themselves for the unfortunate real life outcome. Maybe someone is getting detrimentally jealous in the present.

I should have learned. *Deep Breath* Everything seems good so far!

by imouttatime Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:26 am

I wonder if Mickey (had he not left on his own) was supposed to be the F2. I thought they were setting up a Mickey vs. JP storyline. With the coinflip between them for the date, and then the boxing date JP vs. Mickey.

by Cari Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:54 am

bluwavz wrote:
BlondieGal wrote:
cupcakes wrote:So what do you all think this statement is about?

JP: It makes it a little more difficult for me knowing that she's probably not in love with me.

Do we see him say this? I wonder if this is one of those scripted lines that the finalists have to all say?

No, it's a voice over on the part where she is hugging Ben F. shirtless.

When i heard this VO of JP, it gave credence (for me, at least) JP's VBlog in reference to Ashley's insecurities, "...we're all the same. (i mean), I get emotional. i've insecurities. i get upset..." That validated to me that JP was human after all. giggling

(because i thought JP, the JustPerfect was a greek god, in his case a new yorker god :P )

Lucas15 wrote:
Cari wrote:If Lucas is not married, i would have asked him to accept a rose from me. heeee

:blush

I have my own cupcake Cari but I'm so honored by the rose offer.

IKR *sheepish* I could have asked you to accept a rose from me but I did read your earlier post that you've a JP-loving wife. *snapfingers* Hence, no rose for you. :P Lucky cupcake! giggling

by anders Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:02 pm

bluwavz wrote: He seems completely unable to pick up on the fact that Ashley isn't into him. I think he just doesn't read people well. It explains him being unaware the other guys are annoyed by him. There were several other instances of Ashley not looking into him as well. One obvious one was the group date in episode 4 when Ashley told him they had a connection (she looked unconvinced) and he then he replied that they absolutely did, enthusiastically (he looked completely convinced). She also told him she was looking for "physicalness" and then a few moments later his hand ends up on her thigh. I like him and he makes me laugh, but he just seems so desperate and I'm sure that's a turn-off to Ashley. No wonder he returns. He's completely convinced they have a connection and he probably just thinks she made a mistake.

Interesting since there have been seasons and seasons of F6-F2's who were never able to pick up on the fact that the lead just wasn't into them......

by Bloomers Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:29 pm

anders wrote:
bluwavz wrote: He seems completely unable to pick up on the fact that Ashley isn't into him. I think he just doesn't read people well. It explains him being unaware the other guys are annoyed by him. There were several other instances of Ashley not looking into him as well. One obvious one was the group date in episode 4 when Ashley told him they had a connection (she looked unconvinced) and he then he replied that they absolutely did, enthusiastically (he looked completely convinced). She also told him she was looking for "physicalness" and then a few moments later his hand ends up on her thigh. I like him and he makes me laugh, but he just seems so desperate and I'm sure that's a turn-off to Ashley. No wonder he returns. He's completely convinced they have a connection and he probably just thinks she made a mistake.

Interesting since there have been seasons and seasons of F6-F2's who were never able to pick up on the fact that the lead just wasn't into them......

Even if they did notice, what in the world are they supposed to do? "I've noticed you just don't seem that into me." Then, what does the lead say to that?
Or, how about Chantal telling Brad twice if he wasn't that into her to please send her home, but he didn't?
Next, with the guys, they are all probably competitive, so they are going to give it their best shot, anyway, and most of the girls take a look at the "hamburger" as Kasha handwave

likes to tells us and see steak, so they are going to bust their fannies to stay as long as they can possibly stay.

by anders Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:34 pm

I'm just noticing that other contestants get inside the bubble and are completely oblivious to the signs that that person they think they are falling in love with are just not that into them. Remember Brad's Hillary - he told her in so many ways that they were friends, but she just wasn't hearing it. Apparently Ryan falls into this category as well. Remember David's awkward attempt to kiss Jill, and Robert's attempt to kiss Deanna.

just an observation is all.

by Kelad9 Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:39 pm

anders wrote:I'm just noticing that other contestants get inside the bubble and are completely oblivious to the signs that that person they think they are falling in love with are just not that into them. Remember Brad's Hillary - he told her in so many ways that they were friends, but she just wasn't hearing it. Apparently Ryan falls into this category as well. Remember David's awkward attempt to kiss Jill, and Robert's attempt to kiss Deanna.

just an observation is all.

I don't think that Ryan is that completely oblivious... Remember we have him noticing Ashley and JP in Puket.... I think Ryan is very observant IMO but seems like he is also clueless at times.

by nd4reality Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:44 pm

I'm not sure why Ryan is being termed as clueless when Ashley clearly gave him the last group rose. And this too after telling him that she wanted to not only meet his parents but to see how he lives his day to day life.

If anyone is clueless - its Ashley. Give the rose to the guy that you are really interested in and stop leading him on. Its not like it was a 1 on 1 date and she had no choice. Heck her F2 was sitting in the next room.

by anders Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:47 pm

exactly nd - Ashley has not given him any signs that she wasn't into him - he even got the FIR. And we have no idea what other signals she's been sending him that have been left out.

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