Episode 3 - 6/6 - Discussion - Spoilers

reason wrote:After three season back to back the producers change the cycle how the date goes so dont get hang up on that 3 show date.

Alanna wrote:You guys have been busy today!

Here are just a few of my thoughts in no particular order:

1. Not that TPTB care all that much but if JP isn't F1, how will they convince the audience that F1 isn't a default to Bentley unless they would have shown his relationship building with Ashley in the beginning?

2. IMO if there was something hot or steamy going on with anyone, I think TPTB would have shown it to us. Therefore, I agree with jlccaz that for each individual reason, her top men started dropping like flies and she had to move on to the next round of guys.

3. I have no idea what J means by the JP was cast F4 line either. Then who was cast to be F1? It certainly wasn't Bentley because TPTB obviously had his number from the beginning.

4. I think Ash's blogs are significant too. I would think that if anything significant happened that we didn't see with F1, she'd inform us like Brad and Ali. For example, if Ben or Ames or whoever had been particularly comforting after the roast, I'm assuming she would have written that "the roast wasn't all bad XYZ made me feel SO much better." Brad's blogs were love letters to F1 so I don't think TPTB care.

5. I agree totally with whoever wrote that this season is not going to be about F1 vs F2 but Bentley vs Ash's ability to move on. Bentley was the show for the first 3 eps, he's mentioned the next two eps, and she's going to be so mopey (or at least edited so mopey) that they bring him back in HK. I'm planning to hear about Bentley in her FRC VOs too. He's a never-ending story.

Overall, this was so fun to read and catch up on. Thanks!

Alanna wrote:You guys have been busy today!

Here are just a few of my thoughts in no particular order:

1. Not that TPTB care all that much but if JP isn't F1, how will they convince the audience that F1 isn't a default to Bentley unless they would have shown his relationship building with Ashley in the beginning?

2. IMO if there was something hot or steamy going on with anyone, I think TPTB would have shown it to us. Therefore, I agree with jlccaz that for each individual reason, her top men started dropping like flies and she had to move on to the next round of guys.

3. I have no idea what J means by the JP was cast F4 line either. Then who was cast to be F1? It certainly wasn't Bentley because TPTB obviously had his number from the beginning.

4. I think Ash's blogs are significant too. I would think that if anything significant happened that we didn't see with F1, she'd inform us like Brad and Ali. For example, if Ben or Ames or whoever had been particularly comforting after the roast, I'm assuming she would have written that "the roast wasn't all bad XYZ made me feel SO much better." Brad's blogs were love letters to F1 so I don't think TPTB care.

5. I agree totally with whoever wrote that this season is not going to be about F1 vs F2 but Bentley vs Ash's ability to move on. Bentley was the show for the first 3 eps, he's mentioned the next two eps, and she's going to be so mopey (or at least edited so mopey) that they bring him back in HK. I'm planning to hear about Bentley in her FRC VOs too. He's a never-ending story.

Overall, this was so fun to read and catch up on. Thanks!

klarson79 wrote:

Alanna wrote:You guys have been busy today!

Here are just a few of my thoughts in no particular order:

1. Not that TPTB care all that much but if JP isn't F1, how will they convince the audience that F1 isn't a default to Bentley unless they would have shown his relationship building with Ashley in the beginning?

2. IMO if there was something hot or steamy going on with anyone, I think TPTB would have shown it to us. Therefore, I agree with jlccaz that for each individual reason, her top men started dropping like flies and she had to move on to the next round of guys.

3. I have no idea what J means by the JP was cast F4 line either. Then who was cast to be F1? It certainly wasn't Bentley because TPTB obviously had his number from the beginning.

4. I think Ash's blogs are significant too. I would think that if anything significant happened that we didn't see with F1, she'd inform us like Brad and Ali. For example, if Ben or Ames or whoever had been particularly comforting after the roast, I'm assuming she would have written that "the roast wasn't all bad XYZ made me feel SO much better." Brad's blogs were love letters to F1 so I don't think TPTB care.

5. I agree totally with whoever wrote that this season is not going to be about F1 vs F2 but Bentley vs Ash's ability to move on. Bentley was the show for the first 3 eps, he's mentioned the next two eps, and she's going to be so mopey (or at least edited so mopey) that they bring him back in HK. I'm planning to hear about Bentley in her FRC VOs too. He's a never-ending story.

Overall, this was so fun to read and catch up on. Thanks!

Oooh...I love lists and love your thoughts Alanna! I too want to know how TPTB is going to convince anyone that her F1 is not a default if it doesn't end up being JP. I also agree that if there was something significant that happened with anyone in her top 4 not named JP, they would have shown it - same with her mentioning it in her blog. As I said earlier today - the blog reminded me so much of Ali talking about Roberto - giving inside information on how their relationship was built. And I also wonder if this season doesn't come down to Ashley's feelings for Bentley vs. JP and that's why we this season and the editing of this season is way different. We're getting the Bentley drama...but we're also seeing that he was NOT the only one there that she was into.

In other words - I just agree with your whole post!

nutty1 wrote:Can't it just be that she didn't realize she had an attraction to Ben...or Dino...or Ames...until a bit into the filming? Maybe she truly discovered she had feelings for them later. Or her initial attraction to some (William, Ryan, etc) just fizzled...that stuff happens in real life all the time. You think someone is great, have 1 or 2 dates, then realize...no way!

moonchild wrote:Hi Everyone!

I'm so glad that I found you guys......it has been dreadful with no sleuthing so far! Thank you , SanLee!

Quick question. I just watched the season previews in slow motion on another board and I didn't see anything that was obviously JP. There was one very quick shot (in slow motion) that could have possibly been him, but it was dark and somewhat far away.

Also, the only date that seems to be a "thrill" date is a shot of Ashley jumping off a cliff into the water with a guy (it looks like a guy with hair though). Any thoughts on that?

Thanks

Hotmomma wrote:

nutty1 wrote:Can't it just be that she didn't realize she had an attraction to Ben...or Dino...or Ames...until a bit into the filming? Maybe she truly discovered she had feelings for them later. Or her initial attraction to some (William, Ryan, etc) just fizzled...that stuff happens in real life all the time. You think someone is great, have 1 or 2 dates, then realize...no way!

Nutty lets say that is true..They would still seem to have to build their story starting from the beginning..NO? Just trying to figure out the edit and the story they are telling...No favorites here..

San wrote:I just don't understand why they didn't show Ben and Ash's 1-1 time on both of the group dates he was on. Even just a small chat (even if it wasn't too interesting..) would have been nice. We know they had one on one times because we've seen caps of it.