Bachelor Ukraine - Season 12 - Aleks Topolskiy - Episodes - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

The first 20 minutes was mostly him talking with beautiful shots of different places including Miami. Also showed what looked like a long preview of the season.

The girls started to arrive, but more talking and scenery shots. I started fast forwarding. It looks like every contestant was interviewed after coming out of the limo.

Some parts showed them playing a game, other's were blindfolded. Also looks like photoshoots and maybe an after show.

4:20 looks like Ljudmila got the first impression rose.

4:25 finally a RC. maybe not, they are all sitting down and he's giving out some roses. Maybe it's a different way to have a RC.

Now there is a more formal RC like we're used to.

At 5:11 after giving out all the red roses, he calls Olena. He leaves and comes back with a pink rose and gives it to Olena.

Thank you @GuardianAngel for the update

I looked at the Instagram site and the viewers are not happy with the dubbed voice. Apparently from what I read, the show was delayed, and many now think it was to dub a voice over the Russian language spoken by the contestants.
The fans are saying that the show should have made a disclaimer about the war and use subtitles (Ukrainian).
The fans say that the voice overs make the women seem without a personality.
They wanted a distraction but are disappointed by the choices of production.

@Idlemess thanks for that.

I noticed several times the voice didn't match the lips but just thought it was a delay of some sort with the link. That makes total sense now.

I wondered if there was a disclaimer about the war when the host was initially narrating.

I think I watched most of the show late last night...and may have snoozed in between
I'll confess by saying that I found the show interesting although I still don't know either Ukrainian or Russian.

What gets me is the overall production of the show. The ambience, the creativity, the ridiculousness that is on full scale and the contestants. IMO, this group seems personable and every expressive. To each thy own but looks always play a crucial part early in the game along with first impressions.

I remember that @Natik previously mentioned that the fans can be brutal and superficial, to paraphrase. That was emphasized when I looked at the Instagram comments, , and saw how superficial indeed. I hoped the comments were from teenage people because I was alarm to see that the premise of determining who the Lead was interested in was based on looks, the beauty of the contestants.

Needless to say, I fell down that rabbit hole when I saw Alexandra (SASHA in the barely dressed green jacket ) and Katea??? They are gorgeous girls. Sasha is WOW yet somehow sweet looking and nice... I'm guessing after watching 5 mindless long hours.

Of course, we always ask ourselves why the women are on the show when it's obvious they can find boyfriends off the show? It's about being an influencer. The show's host brought up the contestants Instagram pages, to the women chagrin, about their "exposures" I mean exposes. I can't!

I like Alexs, he seems sort of bland initially, but he is expressive. I liked when Alina (girl in the blue dress) said (I'm guessing) the girl with the boobs gets the roses. .
The women played on their sex appeal.

I saw that @GuardianAngel had posted a screenshot of Alexs with the redhead Julia and their connection, but imo Julia came across condescending and she feels that she can mesmerized a man with her mermaid siren powers (again I'm guessing).

I will say more later

@Idlemess thanks for the recap.

I forgot to mention, there were a lot of sensual clips, almost too much?

GuardianAngel wrote:@Idlemess thanks for that.
I noticed several times the voice didn't match the lips but just thought it was a delay of some sort with the link. That makes total sense now.
I wondered if there was a disclaimer about the war when the host was initially narrating.

Yes, at the beginning Grisha was talking about show being shot before the war at a totally different time. Then he contacted Alex, and they were both speaking Ukranian for the first time. Grisha always speaks Ukranian, Alex was speaking Russian while they were shooting. Otherwise, Alex lives in Maimi and speaks English, he used to live in NY and LA before that.

@Maddy thanks for the clarification.

There were a lot of shots of Alex in Miami.

GuardianAngel wrote:I wondered if there was a disclaimer about the war when the host was initially narrating.

@GuardianAngel, just wanted to let you know that they also have a disclaimer written white on red at the beginning of the episodes and at the beginning of every part of the show after commercial breaks. They write there as well that all of them are doing everything they can with all the people in the country to bring the end of the war closer.

@Maddy thanks for the update.  I see it now in red and white.

I love the scenery. It looks like they travel to a lot of different countries.

What are they doing when all the ladies are together, and Grisha has an electronic board?

The photo shoot date and the cooking date were both awkward with two contestants, one of them in each date seemed to be the trouble maker. He lets one go that was on the cooking date.

It looks like he had a date in the park with Nastya? but was surprised to see that Sasha? was with her. She's the one he gave a pink rose to at the RC. He was very happy to see her. Whatever he said, I'm assuming that it wasn't her date because she left. I noticed the sparks with her during epi 1 and now again. Not really noticing it with any of the others.

It looks like part of the date is with Nastya's son. He says something which seems concerning to Aleks.

I'm 1 1/2 hours into it. I'll have to continue later.

I apologize if I have the names wrong. Just trying to match the face with the charts @Maddy posted.

Maddy wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:I wondered if there was a disclaimer about the war when the host was initially narrating.

@GuardianAngel, just wanted to let you know that they also have a disclaimer written white on red at the beginning of the episodes and at the beginning of every part of the show after commercial breaks. They write there as well that all of them are doing everything they can with all the people in the country to bring the end of the war closer.

The disclaimer:

ПроЕкт було Знято до 24 лютого 2022 року. Деякі сцени та висловлювання можуть бути неактуальними.
Телеканал СТБ, його спіsробітники та герої проЕктіs разом зі gсіма українцями роблять усе можливе для наближення нашоі перемоги!

Translated with Google:

The project was withdrawn until February 24, 2022. Some scenes and expressions may not be relevant. The TV channel STB, its employees and the heroes of the project, together with all Ukrainians, are doing everything possible to bring our victory closer!

@blueblues thank you!