Bachelorette 19 - Gabby Windey - Rachel Recchia - Sept 6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

southerngirlatheart wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Waiting for SCs but where are you guys seeing a SH scene ?

Not positive, but there is a scene shown of Tino in an outdoor backyard that resembles a SHV backyard. It was a quick shot, so it could actually be from a LCD or something. We need to see screencaps to be sure. Imo

Was that Tino in the blue shirt ?

nd4reality wrote:

southerngirlatheart wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Waiting for SCs but where are you guys seeing a SH scene ?

Not positive, but there is a scene shown of Tino in an outdoor backyard that resembles a SHV backyard. It was a quick shot, so it could actually be from a LCD or something. We need to see screencaps to be sure. Imo

Was that Tino in the blue shirt ?

Yep.





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Going to describe what I saw on IG. There was an Air BnB rented in mid-August that resulted in a noise complaint from neighbors & filming was occurring. The Air BnB has been matched to the SC’s of Rachel & Tino (shutters on the house & the backyard pool) in the preview. It was seemingly around MTA filming.

Oh man…this is so not good. Which may account for a consistent negative edit for both of them imo.

nd4reality wrote:Oh man…this is so not good. Which may account for a consistent negative edit for both of them imo.

No this is not good. Wish we did t have to wait for two more weeks. Feel Bad for both Tino and Rachel If they filmed a breakup. Wish they kept it private but the producers are relentless. After the final rose is going to be brutal.

And there I thought this episode was crazy.

I was disappointed in Jason. It doesn't seem like this show was a good fit for him and he should have left with his doubts earlier on, imo.

I loved Gabby's outfit when she went to see Erich and tell him that he's the only one! I was happy for them and now a little confused that he's all of a sudden not ready to propose. I know it's not usual irl but this show is different and he hasn't questioned it before.

Aven's my favorite of Rachel's guys even if I don't think she'll pick him. I'm kind of annoyed by Zack but think he may be betting a Bachelor edit. If Tino did something to make Rachel question him (possibly) post-show, then he deserves the bad edit. I will admit that they've got me interested in watching the 2 part finale.

nd4reality wrote:Oh man…this is so not good. Which may account for a consistent negative edit for both of them imo.

If the break up or fight happened around MTA weekend, most of the editing was done.

Do we know what Tino May have done around that time@?

@luvstx true. Maybe they decided to show warts and all. Maybe they saw it as the only real contestant drama. Overall, these lot have been drama free and friends.

This show wears me out !!
I liked the way Gabby really pushed her guys to recognize and admit to what they were feeling and what they were ready to commit to (or not). Both Johnnie and Jason seemed kind of tortured - had great times with Gabby, communicated well, but clearly weren't ready to make the final committment. She seems to have avoided anything in the fantasy suite that would upset Erich. It was so uncomfortable to watch Gabby telling Erich - finally - that he was the only one left and that he had always been there for her etc. Drama drama ! So we thought everything was fine -- But now Erich is talking about just dating before and engagement !! What's that all about ??
The other question I had - didn't Gabby say that she always thought Jason was the one? That confused me...

I have liked Rachel with Tino - maybe it's all the romantic kissing - and Tino seems sure of himself which I have liked. I definitely saw red flags with his father though and I think that needed to be addressed. During the fsd with Tino - I didn't really feel they seemed very comfortable together. The horseback riding (creates distance), they kept their distance (from what we were shown) in the water after they jumped - and their conversation at times seemed stilted. But she did seem over the moon happy at dinner. Tino did not seem to get as nice a suite - was that a bathtub over on the side of the room ? - not small pool under the stars the way some of the other suites had.
Rachel seems very natural and comfortable with Zach. We've seen alot of their laughing together, how much they have in common etc. The fsd left me kind of up in the air. Rachel seemed to challenge him out of no where - saying he was too young - not ready etc. Zach had told his mother that he wouldn't be ready at the end of this to propose. Rachel obviously suspected (or was told) and pushed him !
I cannot imagine what happened with Tino. Was it just a physical attraction and she was carried along in the bubble? Not going to pick Aven - and Zach really wasn't ready. Did the producers feel "love will find a way ..." So much of Zach's story with Rachel was shown - that I can imagine Rachel and Zach could go back together - unengaged - after the ATFR. Tino has obviously had enough - when production comes to film your break-up - it's a little too much ! He seemed to really care for Rachel but maybe it was just the challenge and he didn't really have that much in common with Rachel.

What a mess! Zach's face showed how much he was hurt by what Rachel said to him during FS. He was blindsided and now it looks like Rachel was blindsided by Tino after FRC. What a waste of time. I hate it when they feel they should film the breakup. And something happen with Aven as well??? she told him why are you raising your voice. On one hand, we still have Gabby with the love of her life doing DWTS, so happy for her...but on the other hand, we have Rachel who is left with only a bad break-up that was filmed for all to see! Very different outcome !

I hated Gabby's conversation with all of these men because it's ALL production-based. On the surface, "The Bachelor" seems like a show that you go on to and fall in love. Without any details, that seems like an okay premise, but we know there's so much manipulation and cattle-herding behind the scenes. I'm sure none of Gabby's final three men knew what they were signing up for in that regard.

I didn't see Johnny's date, but I thought it was fair of him to not be ready. None of the couples who leave this show are "ready" and that's why nearly 90% of them fail.

Erich was again reacting normally. No man wants to think of the woman he's getting ENGAGED to - shagging with another man days before. It would be different if Gabby wasn't so gung-ho about the engagement, but she clearly believes it means something so I don't understand why he couldn't express his thoughts about it. I don't see him re-watching this positively since it's heavily edited to seem like she chose him secondary to Jason's "rejection" and since he's clearly not as keen to how production works.

Jason has said from his first date that he's tried to leave. We all know that production will not just "let" you leave, especially if the lead has shown an interest in you. Their conversation was exhausting. And the fact that she still let him go to the fantasy suite (after leaving Johnny on the spot) is either a production decision OR another slap in the face. All of the "leading me" on discussion was pointless though, if he was in fact her F2 the whole time. Clearly they would have both been leading each other on.

Rachel has been playing the role of Bachelorette this whole time. She's obsessed with being seen as 'the perfect Bachelorette' and it comes off as inauthentic. But Zach was probably convinced that's the real her, so when he got to the FS and saw "the real Rachel" (who doesn't necessarily have to be a bad person either), he didn't vibe. He clearly wanted to leave after FS, but production probably refused to fly him out until after the RC.

Tino and Rachel were always going to fail. It's definitely just a physical attraction. I am surprised by the fact that they didn't seemingly last beyond their season airing. Totally thought they would get influencer status. If Tino says that Rachel is "fake" too, then I wonder if they'll try to do two bachelors. I thoroughly hated this season, so I hope not.