Bachelorette 19 - Gabby Windey - Rachel Recchia - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

nd4reality wrote:This season seems to be more crap than prior imo. There is even pin drop silence on the board. It’s seriously disappointing how tptb are only in it for the drama and viewing numbers which apparently also are low.
Jmo

I am so disappointed with TPTB. I was getting so bored with the show recently but decided to tune in with the two bachelorettes. I honestly was excited about something different. The producers wrecked it. They could have made the show so much better. I will tune in to see how it ends for both girls. I have a feeling they are both single. Very curious to see why Rachel and Tino broke up.

I’m actually sad because I love these girls more than I’ve loved most leads in this franchise. But tptb really dropped the ball this season making the whole season about their insecurities.I feel bad about all the hate Rachel is getting. I’m happy gabby seemingly found her happy ending tho. I guess that’s the one positive of this season

I haven’t watched yet but IMO the 2 leads format was a dud and should never be repeated. If the female lead needs a sounding board and a shoulder to cry on, have a female cohost who either on their own or in conjunction with Jesse walks the walk with her.
The editing was off, there was no time, too many rejections, self eliminations. We the viewers did not see any real character development of the contestants AND neither did these leads have time to form any sort of proper relationship with these guys….and from previews with their final choices.
Oh and no more engagement pressure please.

JMO.

I am not throwing around any negative thoughts - as we the viewers never get to see all the behind the scenes, etc., however, the way it appeared last night - to me - "if" Rachel really wanted Aven in the end - she would have agreed to continue together after the show. I really felt as though she was so centered on getting the "ring" that nothing else mattered.

As far as how she handled Zach - he did not deserve her coldness/detachment. There is a way to gently let someone down and I thought she handled it much better earlier in the show than later with the guys that should have meant more to her. I really did not think that Zach (who looked amazing, by the way) did not have to be apologizing to her - it should have been the other way around.

Rachel looked beyond sad on the program last night - she had 2 amazing guys -Aven & Zach - and for whatever
reason it did not work for her. I feel bad that she was hurt so badly by the results of the ending that we see
coming - whatever happens. Gabby on the other hand, looks very happy.

PS - Would love to see Zach or Aven for Bach - or both.

I agree that the reduced contact hours with the lead in a two-bach season had a seriously negative impact.
But I also felt that a lot of the men in the beginning seemed to feel like they didn't understand the rules, and walked on eggshells (sometimes being reprimanded or punished by the cancellation of cocktail parties)....except if course for the cocky ones like Tino. I think this explains some of the problem this season as well.

Erich….. “the odds are against us”….. AFR 1

Aunt….. “you’ve got to tell him”….. AFR 1

Gabby….. “what if Erich doesn’t want me”….. epi 3

Makes one wonder…..

@Jeepers Can you explain a little more about what you are wondering about? I’m not understanding.

mbl wrote:@Jeepers Can you explain a little more about what you are wondering about? I’m not understanding.

They are comments we have seen or heard but not necessarily seen in what context they belong,except for maybe Erich’s comment


The stars are definitely not aligning for Gabby and Erich long term

This season is turning out to be a disaster for both of the girls. So sad!

The stars are definitely not aligning for either Gabby or Rachel. So disappointed in Erich’s behavior post show. This is Jed 2.0. Disgusting. First Tino now Erich. Both girls will walk away single. What a waste of a season.

Erich doesn't appear to have tried to get back with his ex while he's with Gabby so not sure why this is so terrible? That's all I've heard about related to women so may have missed something. I'm sure he and Gabby are having lots of talks and maybe she already knew about it.

I don't know Jed's story that well but if he didn't try to get with his ex while with Hannah then I'd feel the same. So many people come on the show having dated someone right up to the time and I have no problem with it. JMO of course.

albean99 wrote:Erich doesn't appear to have tried to get back with his ex while he's with Gabby so not sure why this is so terrible? That's all I've heard about related to women so may have missed something. I'm sure he and Gabby are having lots of talks and maybe she already knew about it.

I don't know Jed's story that well but if he didn't try to get with his ex while with Hannah then I'd feel the same. So many people come on the show having dated someone right up to the time and I have no problem with it. JMO of course.

I thought that Erich texted the ex on July 11 after he got back from the Bachelorette?