Bachelorette 19 - Gabby Windey - Rachel Recchia - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

sbolduc wrote:

nd4reality wrote:I put a very rough transcript of  Zachs interview in his thread where they talk about Rachel being upset in ep3. IMO there is no way he self eliminates/rejects Rachel as the spoiler says. Would love to hear others thoughts.

I completely agree based on that interview, it would be bizarre if he did.
As for Erich, I know he is local but I would again ask shouldn’t he be at a SHV which traditionally happens tonight, guess he could go later tonight??

Gabby is at the MTA taping so she wasn’t around today or evening

sbolduc wrote:

nd4reality wrote:I put a very rough transcript of  Zachs interview in his thread where they talk about Rachel being upset in ep3. IMO there is no way he self eliminates/rejects Rachel as the spoiler says. Would love to hear others thoughts.

I completely agree based on that interview, it would be bizarre if he did.
As for Erich, I know he is local but I would again ask shouldn’t he be at a SHV which traditionally happens tonight, guess he could go later tonight??

I’ll wait till Saturday to see if an shv starts. Just in case G/R have more is how stuff.

Edit adding Erich seems to have join the guys the filmed MTA at No Vacancy in LA. Per Jordan H story where he tagged him, Jacob, Nate, Ethan etc.

Wouldn’t be to shock if the others that weren’t required to film MTA join the party either. All are in CA. Even if they don’t share someone is bound to tell rs or spolierpage.

Jeepers wrote:

sbolduc wrote:

nd4reality wrote:I put a very rough transcript of  Zachs interview in his thread where they talk about Rachel being upset in ep3. IMO there is no way he self eliminates/rejects Rachel as the spoiler says. Would love to hear others thoughts.

I completely agree based on that interview, it would be bizarre if he did.
As for Erich, I know he is local but I would again ask shouldn’t he be at a SHV which traditionally happens tonight, guess he could go later tonight??

Gabby is at the MTA taping so she wasn’t around today or evening

Yea for sure. I just remember back in the day the SHV started right after the MTA. Just weird to me especially now him going out later with the guys. So let’s see where Erich is these next couple days

sbolduc wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

sbolduc wrote:

nd4reality wrote:I put a very rough transcript of  Zachs interview in his thread where they talk about Rachel being upset in ep3. IMO there is no way he self eliminates/rejects Rachel as the spoiler says. Would love to hear others thoughts.

I completely agree based on that interview, it would be bizarre if he did.
As for Erich, I know he is local but I would again ask shouldn’t he be at a SHV which traditionally happens tonight, guess he could go later tonight??

Gabby is at the MTA taping so she wasn’t around today or evening

Yea for sure. I just remember back in the day the SHV started right after the MTA. Just weird to me especially now him going out later with the guys.  So let’s see where Erich is these next couple days

I still have my tin foil hat and rose coloured glasses and am dusting them off. Been away from watching and the boards for a while and firmly an unbeliever till proven true ! Thanks sleuths here, you are awesome.

I’m really trying to work this July/August post season timeline for Gabby and try see where Erich shvs fit. Just want to show the timeline I have because some things aren’t adding up in my head. I just want to try get the puzzle pieces to fit.

First both made stories Fourth of July Gabby even had a video watching something in Denver on her computer with her dog and other photos.. Erich had a photo in NJ at a friends place. First time we notice he went back to NJ. That was Erich’s first story in awhile and he posted with his bike that I believe is in NJ at his parents place July 6.

July 6 to 12 Gabby had press both in NYC and LA. Probably left NYC on the 8. Erich sadly posted about his daddy passing on July 9. With both having a lot going on that time if they did see each other it was only for a quick visit if it happen at all. Erich also posted late on première day the 11 with a wow reaction to the episode. Seemed late  but he had a lot going on that week. Also per producer Kirhna and Rachel they watched the premiere in LA with Gabby in a hotel suite G/R seemed to share.

July 13 Gabby was on a plane and the 15 and 16 showed her dog in Denver. July 13-14 Erich posted stuff around NJ. Including his sister and mom. Sister had a story up during in the same location Erich posted from.

Erich stayed quiet after that until the 20th. I pretty sure somewhere between July 17 and July 21 Gabby had an shv. She posted three of these days the one on the 21 was just ice cream in a cart and the one I feel most confident is a latergram. The 18th she posted her lunch and made two tweets from The west coast airing.  I do believe she was on the west coast because the lunch story was posted close to 2 pst, but this is Jmo. If Erich had a sanctioned shv during this time it is here July 17 to 19.

Because both Erich and Gabby storied again on July 20. Gabby posted grandpa John and her dogs and the ice cream I mention above (the first could of been a latergram). Erich had the Maine stories up on the 20th. I know some think it’s a latergram and if it is it may extend shv by a day. Because on the 21st Erich was at Newark NJ with family and stayed there awhile. On the 22 and 23 Gabby was in LA for her friend Liz and Melina’s separate birthday parties.

On the 25 Gabby had stories back in Denver with her dog and Grandpa. Also posted things from Denver 27 and 29. Will add I heard her Bachelor Happy Hour interview might have been done July 28 and she did that in Denver I heard some of the interviews G/R did was on the 29. . And the ones that where posted filmed in Denver for G. Erich was still in NJ at that time leaving the family lake house o pin the 28. On the 29 he was at his moms and the 30th he was back at the house he showed on Fourth of July. July 31 Gabby’s dad small wedding  only known people there were Gabby, her dad and the bride, her sister who did the ceremony from the pics posted, her oldest nephew and grandpa John.That’s the only people Gabby showed there.

August first Gabby had a story with her nephew on a giant swing. Plus her tweets for the episode where in Denver time zone show airing. Tuesday August 2 Gabby was pretty active on IG. She even posted her dinner. Also some articles like People magazine mention they interview G/R on Tuesday. August 3 Gabby posted a story of a Colorado church saying she’ was walking with Grandpa John but Erich posted having drinks with his mom and looked to have gotten his her trimmed. His eyebrow still had the cut in it so that picture  was done sometime after July 28. August 4 Leah Block and the spa she works in posted Gabby doing a treatment with them Gabby shared a story the next day. I know some people thought an Shv happen during this time but Gabby was far to active and there just to me wasn’t enough time for one, IMO.

August 5 and 6 Gabby was with her two best friends in Denver at the Clayton Hotel. Erica and Kenna also storied about this and posted pics after Gabby did. Erich said on the Clickbait interview he got home August 5 Friday. He storied with his friends and with Logan. August 6 he was at the beach with friends and storied Logan again at night. August 7 Gabby posted about a hike with her dad but some think it maybe a latergram. Really doesn’t matter because G and R where need in LA for MTA prep and I was thinking a possible shv.

Since August 6was the last live G post we saw. But we believe she is in LA and taped MTA yesterday the 11. Erich was at a watch party on August 8, tapped Clickbait August 10 from his place. And last night had dinner with friends and meet up with the guys that did MTA.

Now i now believe they gave permission to Tino to run during shvs and even do one charity run now that it seems like he is f1. The Clickbait interview and dinner with his friends last night while G filmed MTA I don’t see a problem with shv being interrupted for that if there was one going on. It’s the Monday watch party and the hanging out with the guys after MTA taping that gives me pause. I can see a shv not starting yet and coming today and tomorrow.

My timeline just doesn’t show an shv in 23 days. I know people Circumstances May change some stuff but I really don’t see how Gabby could of been in NJ with this timeline or Erich in Denver. If you see a fitting for it you can tell me. I really looking if they have an shv in the next coming days because if they haven’t it’s been a month.

Sorry for the long post I just wanted to be sure.

Thanks for this detail wow !
As I said tin foil hat and rose coloured glasses being dusted off. I too cannot shake the spoiler doubts since they were posted. Jmo
Should be interesting.

@nd4reality

I agree - I just feel that something is off with the spoilers for Rachel. I know that we do not have any photos
of Zach in Mexico and the whole "Truth" meeting with Jesse - but how can he go from "she could be my wife" in
episode 3 to it is over (unless something happened along the way to change his mind). He just seem so concerned about her and how she was doing with all the rejection drama. I really, really like the two of them together. I was thinking that they were showing Tino way too much and Zach was in the background - similar to other F1's. I am sure that I will disappointed in the end. My 2 cents!!!

Not sure when SHVs with Erich could have happened, but I think that could have a lot to do with lategrams and other instagram trickery. Last season, Susie posted a lot on social media and was seemingly accounted for most of the time. She was also in her friend's instagram stories, waitressing at a restaurant in Virginia Beach, and at numerous watch parties in Virginia Beach. It seemed impossible to most that she was F1, but we now know that she had multiple SHVs with Clayton during this time.

I think that I read somewhere (maybe Reddit?) that Erich's sister lives in Denver? I know that he has some type of connection to Colorado. Is there any time where he could have been in Colorado with Gabby with an unsanctioned SHV? As far as Tino and Rachel go, I thought it would be very easy for him to be F1 especially since he lives in the LA area.

Just on latergrams I find most contestants don’t try to trick us with them. Erich even said before filming he was surprise the show found him thru Instagram because his account was private and he hardly used it. The Hannah Ann and Susie’s tricked us with latergrams but their. Careers where social media based and they posted a lot. Erich seems like a in the moment poster just going by the stuff he does post. Plus the other person in the f2 doesn’t post very much. I used to think these contestants where always hiding stuff but nope very few actually actively trying to trick us but that’s just my experience with sleuthing. I only seen the two samples above do that and one of them only did it for two,moths before she didn’t have to do it anymore.

On the possibility of unsanctioned visits. I really think Gabby had one shv between the 17 thru 21 sometime so that one shouldn’t be unsanctioned if it was with Erich. It’s just the Maine story throws off the timeline. The next dates I see that it maybe possible is July 31 to August 2. And that’s a stretch because of the small family wedding that was out in the open and the fact Gabby was on social media a lot on the first and second. Plus she was live tweeting the Paris episode during the Denver airing. It’s not a requirement she tweet, she didn’t this past episode. I just see it hard to happen those days because of how active Gabby was.

Erich could still very well be f1. Its just a month without a sanction shv is just crazy to me. The only person I know went a month without a sanction one was Peter and Hannah Ann and when they finally gave them one after the month of not Peter broke up with her. We will see if this weekend there are signs of an shv but usually the longest on waits for an shv is three weeks. All Jmo.

When did filming end? Did Gabby have an SHV before July? I think the major difference is that no F1 ever had a parent pass away during the time they had to hide out. Maybe Erich wanted to spend the most time with his dad before his death and then wanted to be there for his family after. That doesn't mean he didn't talk to Gabby everyday during that time. I guess we'll see in the next few weeks.

patri1610 wrote:When did filming end? Did Gabby have an SHV before July? I think the major difference is that no F1 ever had a parent pass away during the time they had to hide out. Maybe Erich wanted to spend the most time with his dad before his death and then wanted to be there for his family after. That doesn't mean he didn't talk to Gabby everyday during that time. I guess we'll see in the next few weeks.

Filming ended the middle of May. Most of the crew, Aven and Jesse are known to have left May 13/14. Both Gabby and Rachel are believed to have an shv before they went to cmafest in Nashville. Which was Jun10 to 12 that they where there. So that would put sometime between June 4-9.

I don’t know how the situation with his family affects shv. That’s why I am looking closely at this past week and weekend. Erich is back in California and that’s why I was surprised to see him partying with MTA guys and not at a shv. There still time for one though.