Tino Franco - Bachelorette 19 - Discussion

Sprite wrote:Kissing some girl when the woman who b*tched and cried all season about wanting an engagement...his fiancee...apparently gives him his ring back and tells him they should date might confuse a guy. I can see where he might feel rejected and consider them on a break. I wouldn't exactly call that cheating. When said woman pulled a similar stunt with two previous "boyfriends", I might call her fake and a b*tch, but that is me.

Watching Rachel this season with different guys I think she is very difficult to be in a relationship with. She becomes a victim dealing with anything that she takes as a rejection, even if it's just her own consideration.  If she handles everything this way, I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a person like that. During the season it's different, it's a different game, to make this woman yours. And they didn't even start dating in real life yet and already so much drama! Who wants to be with her anyway, this is crazy!
I feel sorry for Rachel, probably it was not a good idea for her to be a Bachelorette. She has a lot of problems...

Nick Viall said via his IG stories that he is doing an interview with Tino.

I'm going to guess he's going to be respectful and not throw Rachel under the bus, but I'm very curious to hear his side of the story.

I felt horrible for him. They didn't have to treat him like that.

GuardianAngel wrote:I'm going to guess he's going to be respectful and not throw Rachel under the bus, but I'm very curious to hear his side of the story.

I felt horrible for him. They didn't have to treat him like that.

I hope Nick doesn't start accusing Tino. Nick of all people should know how these things go.

I thought Tino actually did very well, considering the situation he was in on the show and at the AFTR. He was very respectful even thought she never let him explain anything, kept interrupting and kept accusing him. The man kissed a women. Big deal. You would think he did something horrible. I can't believe people are actually buying her BS! I will be interested to see how this goes, because I thought there were a few moments when he wanted to ask her why she was lying. I know I did.

Since I ended the season not liking Tino or Rachel by the end, I'm shocked to find that I mostly sided with him last night even though they did their best to make him the villain. I don't think he should have kissed someone but I also believe that Rachel probably left him really confused as to whether it was over or not. I loved that he brought his journal to read back what she had said to him.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I think the poor guy did it because she way confusing him so much and was making him question himself. It was his way of refreshing his memory. I would love to read what is in that thing because I suspect it is nothing like it was portrayed by Rachel and the show.

I felt the same way and said so last night. The expressions on his face were that of I can't believe you're lying. He was trying to explain to her why he was feeling the way he did, by recapping the things she said. I'm not wearing the ring, etc and she continued to bash him not letting him talk.

When Aven came out he was just sitting there, watching, got up, didn't know if he should leave or what. I imagined that being my son, and my heart broke for him.

I can't imagine the head games she played on him.

Sprite wrote:I thought Tino actually did very well, considering the situation he was in on the show and at the AFTR. He was very respectful even thought she never let him explain anything, kept interrupting and kept accusing him. The man kissed a women. Big deal. You would think he did something horrible. I can't believe people are actually buying her BS! I will be interested to see how this goes, because I thought there were a few moments when he wanted to ask her why she was lying. I know I did.

I also thought Tino did pretty well, I already lost my patience with her a long time ago, but I've seen a lot of sh*tty Rachel, I had more than enough of seeing her treating the guys badly. And right, kissing somebody is not the end of the world, but she keeps saying he cheated on her, a generalization that was allowing people to think anything at all, and they were saying to her that he hadn't deserve her when the situation was absolutely the other way around. I felt so, so bad for him, poor, poor Tino, he needs to know that the problem was with her, not with him. A loving woman would think how to save a relationship and how to help the guy to recover if she was still very important for him. I understand, she didn't have to be his therapist, she just needed to listen and understand what happened to him. It was not possible; she didn't want anybody to know what really happened. And Tino was right saying that she just wanted to talk to him in person to make him wrong and everybody was supposed to see how wrong he was. Looks like that's all she does in relationships to make herself right! I just HATE it! But looks like she just cannot be wrong at any cost, even at the cost of losing people who love her. Horrible.  I would love to know his side of the story.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Great post!

She was so done before she even said she was done but put him through hell along the way.

Maddy wrote:

Sprite wrote:I thought Tino actually did very well, considering the situation he was in on the show and at the AFTR. He was very respectful even thought she never let him explain anything, kept interrupting and kept accusing him. The man kissed a women. Big deal. You would think he did something horrible. I can't believe people are actually buying her BS! I will be interested to see how this goes, because I thought there were a few moments when he wanted to ask her why she was lying. I know I did.

I also thought Tino did pretty well, I already lost my patience with her a long time ago, but I've seen a lot of sh*tty Rachel, I had more than enough of seeing her treating the guys badly. And right, kissing somebody is not the end of the world, but she keeps saying he cheated on her, a generalization that was allowing people to think anything at all, and they were saying to her that he hadn't deserve her when the situation was absolutely the other way around. I felt so, so bad for him, poor, poor Tino, he needs to know that the problem was with her, not with him. A loving woman would think how to save a relationship and how to help the guy to recover if she was still very important for him. I understand, she didn't have to be his therapist, she just needed to listen and understand what happened to him. It was not possible; she didn't want anybody to know what really happened. And Tino was right saying that she just wanted to talk to him in person to make him wrong and everybody was supposed to see how wrong he was. Looks like that's all she does in relationships to make herself right! I just HATE it! But looks like she just cannot be wrong at any cost, even at the cost of losing people who love her. Horrible.  I would love to know his side of the story.

In my opinion, Tino paid a price for coming across as arrogant and his dad’s instagram posts…two things that TPTB don’t like and will extract revenge for. Then you throw Princess Rachel into the mix and Aven being duped into showing up and there we have the first half of the show last night. I’m trying to wean myself away from this nonsense after 20 years. Watch…we’ll have a wonderful story with Zack and I’ll be sucked right back in.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Zack is the one who figured Rachel out that she just says right things and there is nothing behind that. Can Rachel really love, or she just can play being in love? Looks like she is not really in touch with herself, and just doing what is expected of her and trying to look the best while doing that.

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