Bachelor 26 - Clayton Echard - Clues - F1-F2 - NO Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

smg2587 wrote:

sportsgirl94 wrote:Who so desiduck87 on IG.  I notice she follows contestants.  She is following Gabby and Clayton; they are following her.  But, she doesn’t follow any of the other F4 and none of them follow her.

She seems to be a casting producer, On her highlight stories she has one about her casting for Michelle’s season. And I believe before Clayton was announce she was saying on Instagram she was casting for a bachelor she didn’t even know.

smg2587 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:@smg2587 Thank you. Makes sense. I didn't read it the right way even though you were perfectly clear.

Didn't Rachel's mother unfollow Clayton? That was the reason I guessed her to be F2. If none of her friends are following Clayton either, I'm guessing she was really blindsided, and is not happy feeling "used" after saying ILY and being intimate. Just guessing on my part.

Rachel’s mom 2as following a Clayton fan account that she unfollowed.

Don’t know if any of it means anything. She definitely less active than Susie and Gabby. Everyone else opened there tiktoks that had one but her. Her family seems to be extra supportive after the event she did Saturday. If she wasn’t the only one silent for a few days so far of the f3 I would think heartbroken contestant but now I have to wonder if she is on shv since so far only her has been silent so far. We still have to see thru the weekend though. Her and her family/friends social media is giving me mixed messages so far. All jmo.

ariwolf wrote:i have mixed messages on rachel too. one thought i've had is that the promo really is misleading and her crying on the stairs is actually after getting eliminated at the f3 rose ceremony. but i also could see her as f1 as she seems very invested and is the only one of the f3 to be MIA for a few days

i think next week will be very telling. if all the f3 and/or clayton show their whereabouts, then it probably means there was a shv from (approximately) this past sunday until today as i don't think they would go over 3 weeks without letting clayton spend time with his f1.

ariwolf wrote:rachel has been silent since december 11th - long enough to actually be on an shv now instead of from the 5th-9th  i think susie is back home because the bathroom in her ig story doesn't look like a hotel or air bnb, but she was MIA from the 10th-13th - long enough to have been on an shv as well.

gabby is the only one i don't think is f1, unless all her stories have been pre-recorded. it's either rachel or susie imo.

Kayben14 wrote:

Jolena wrote:Knowing what we know so far about Clayton, Which one of the predicted final 3  do you think might be the best match for him? any thoughts ?  I think they are all pretty in fact I think Clayton has the best group of any other season to pick from (as far as beauty and age appropriate. ). I'm leaning Gabby

I think Rachel and Susie are the F2. Because their is some SM leading in that direction. Susie and Rachel have shown no interactions with each other. Gabby follows and is followed by friends of both Rachel and Susie. But none of friends for either Rachel or Susie or themselves follow each other or have shown
Interactions. Also they’re some indicators that show either Susie or Rachel could be F1 more so than what I have got post show from Gabby. But who knows it could be Gabby

smg2587 wrote:And Susie just started following Cary also.

I do right now think it’s is a Rachel and Susie f2. Not only do both have friends following and interacting with Gabby. But just going by what we have on the fsds it looks like Gabby may have gotten the ‘worse’ one. Gabby got an atv and a tent (yes it has plumbing and is called a dome but she got a tent) compared to Susie getting blue lagoon and Rachel getting Perlan Observatory and a actual suite. I’ve be wrong before but with those opinions an atv is the last one I want jmo.

https://www.instagram.com/caryfetman/followers/

smg2587 wrote:

ariwolf wrote:sorry for the double post but i just remembered this. i took this screenshot of rachel's story last wednesday but never posted it because i didn't think it mattered. but some people on reddit have been talking about it because of the rose napkin and the shadow of a second wine glass so just in case this ends up being important, here it is:

12/15

source: https://www.instagram.com/pilot.rachel/

To add to this people on Reddit where thinking this is what RS was referring to when he said someone in the f3 may have given a clue but he isn’t sure since he didn’t know the winner. I want to add that I listen to RS podcast and he was clear when he was recording most of the podcast the bios hadn’t came out yet. After the bios came out he added the Salley thing with his speculation on her and the show to the end of his podcast. This story of Rachel’s came out after the bios and after it seems like rs record his podcast. So he couldn’t be referring to this as someone may have slipped because it hadn’t happen when he talked about it. As for the shadow thing I am not sure about that.

I do think the ‘slip’ maybe Rachel related though. I think it maybe her family toast where one of the guys she is with say congratulations at the end of the story. That’s just speculation on my part though. Jmo.

Velesl wrote:rachel and clayton are usually active on IG around the same time, posting minutes apart. it is very interesting thing to watch

GuardianAngel wrote:@Velesl  

Just to clarify, were there other times where they posted at the same time? Sorry I don't remember if that was posted.

Clayton posted official weekend in Scottsdale, Arizona and Rachel tagged Orlando both three hours ago.

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A post shared by Clayton Echard (@claytonechard)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-Dy2fvQa7/

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A post shared by RACHEL R. (@pilot.rachel)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-GANUFvwW/

Velesl wrote:@GuardianAngel: I am not sure if it was posted here, however this started before the premiere when rachel liked jesse palmers photo the exact same time as clayton , even though she wasn't following jesse at the time.
Someone wrote an article about clues pointing to rachel , then she followed jesse  but doensn't  engages on his posts.
They also liked clayton's producer /friend's posts at the exact same time 4 days ago.
More recently she posted a IG story supposedly flying on jan 7(what was weird is that the camera was facing the tail of the plane not the wings   , few minutes after clayton posted on jan 7 , a photo he captioned big friday energy.
I have to point out that they were both MIA after their jan 7 posts until jan 10 .  Even this  monday, they were both active on Ig around the same time.
Today their posts were few  minutes apart,. A reddit user estimated a possible SHv for 8-11 jan so if they had one 7-10 jan , then they should be having one this weekend or next week (if they want to push to coincide with rachel's 1-1 date).

GuardianAngel wrote:Just to clarify, were there other times where they posted at the same time? Sorry I don't remember if that was posted.

Clayton posted official weekend in Scottsdale, Arizona and Rachel tagged Orlando both three hours ago.

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A post shared by Clayton Echard (@claytonechard)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-Dy2fvQa7/

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A post shared by RACHEL R. (@pilot.rachel)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-GANUFvwW/

gurlbrit wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Agent99 wrote:Do we need to keep an eye on when Rachel goes to AZ


source

Oh interesting!

Shouldn't this be put in the F1/F2 thread as well.  Not sure if she should be advertising that she's going to AZ if she's F1 though.

smg2587 wrote:Rachel’s post episode post.

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A post shared by RACHEL R. (@pilot.rachel)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZa22odLGpN/

GuardianAngel wrote:snipped

I was looking through our stat's thread looking for a pattern and what I found is no F1 went on the first 1:1 other than Arie/Becca Peter/Hannah, both switched their F1's.

GuardianAngel wrote:First 1:1's

ETA:
No other F1 gets the first 1:1. Courtney Ben's season got the second 1:1 of the 2nd epi.

Here are others:

Ben F Lindzi F2 - week 3

Brad - Ashley H F3 1st 1:1
Emily F1 week 3-7
Chantal F2 - week 4

Sean - Des 2nd 1:1
- Lesley M F2 week 3
- Catherine F1 week 6

JPG
Clarie F2 - 1st 1:1
Nikki F1 - week 5 & 7

Chris
McKenzie F13 half way through a group date 1st 1:1 - Meghan F4 1:1
Whitney F1 first 1:1 3rd week

Ben
Caila F3 first 1:1
Lauren F1 week 3
JoJo F2 - week 4

Arie
Becca 1st 1:1    & week7 Becca was the F1 but switched while season airing
Lauren week 6 & 7

Colton - Hannah B 1st 1:1 F7 went on to be the ette

Peter - Maddison 1st 1:1 was F2 then switched

Matt: Bri 1st 1:1 was F3

Clayton: Susie 1st 1:1 Placement to be determined

ariwolf wrote:i'll just leave this here.... i'd love to know where she got the clip of them kissing from because i haven't seen it posted anywhere   

https://www.instagram.com/pilot.rachel/

southerngirlatheart wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:@smg2587 thank you so much for always being on top of the s/caps!

Would someone who's not the F1 post a picture like that? I don't think so. jmo

ETA: Sorry I meant to multiquote.

Who retweeted with Clayton?

smg2587 wrote:To go along with @ariwolf posted earlier Clayton didn’t start tweeting the about the episode until the last 10 minutes. Also the both retweeted the same tweet from Jesse Palmer about Genevieve getting the rose on the 2on1.

It wasn’t just a picture either, it was a video of them kissing from last night. I can’t imagine her posting that if she isn’t the F1 either. The video didn’t seem to be taken from a TV at all. JMO