Bachelorette 17 - Katie Thurston - July 19 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

CHO wrote:I thought that with Greg - Katie did not feel safe.  She was worried that he might take himself out of the "show."  He reassures her - he will never do that.  I got the impression that his hesitancy was causing her to be unsure.  It seems to appear that Blake and K may have more in common - the outdoorsy stuff - and maybe he can be more of a support for her - be the stronger one.  But I still maintain - we have been shown that Katie wants Greg.  And that this was still going strong through the night - out in the rain - after she had been with Blake.  So I am confused as to what suddenly blew that to bits.  One fight - one episode of both losing their tempers ?

CHO wrote:I thought that with Greg - Katie did not feel safe.  She was worried that he might take himself out of the "show."  He reassures her - he will never do that.  I got the impression that his hesitancy was causing her to be unsure.  It seems to appear that Blake and K may have more in common - the outdoorsy stuff - and maybe he can be more of a support for her - be the stronger one.  But I still maintain - we have been shown that Katie wants Greg.  And that this was still going strong through the night - out in the rain - after she had been with Blake.  So I am confused as to what suddenly blew that to bits.  One fight - one episode of both losing their tempers ?

alwayscooking wrote:

CHO wrote:I thought that with Greg - Katie did not feel safe.  She was worried that he might take himself out of the "show."  He reassures her - he will never do that.  I got the impression that his hesitancy was causing her to be unsure.  It seems to appear that Blake and K may have more in common - the outdoorsy stuff - and maybe he can be more of a support for her - be the stronger one.  But I still maintain - we have been shown that Katie wants Greg.  And that this was still going strong through the night - out in the rain - after she had been with Blake.  So I am confused as to what suddenly blew that to bits.  One fight - one episode of both losing their tempers ?

I agree that as of now, the edit is Katie wanting Greg, she's chasing him, but they're also throwing in tidbits of things Blake does for her that she really likes.  The easiness of their conversation, common interests, passion, and his thoughtful romantic side she didn't know he had.  The fact that she said after their first date, "she could see herself with Blake at the end of this" IMO is huge, he's at least seriously a contender.

From what RS said Katie gives Greg some sort of reassurance, and I believe that comes tonight on their 1-1 date, they've been promoting the heck out of this scene "our journey starts today" .  IMO, I think Greg is going to put demands on Katie about the overnights and it's not going to sit well with Miss Sex Positivity .  I feel like Blake is going to be more like a Tyler C, and he told Hannah, go do whatever it is you have to do to figure things out, because once we're engaged, that's it.  Katie will see the contrast between the 2 relationships and see what she thinks she wanted to what she really needs.  Des, round 2  

With this being the 3rd consecutive “bubble” season of the show (Clare/Tayshia, Matt, Katie), you’ve seen that spoilers have just been tougher to get. Been able to get a lot of spoilers, but details surrounding those spoilers have been harder to come by. Like back on May 13th, I wrote this regarding Michael A. leaving the show: “I don’t know any of the exact details regarding his departure, I just know either Katie sends him home to be with his son or he wants to leave because of it. I believe he makes it to the episode before hometowns.” So half of that is right. Michael does self-eliminate, but not until next week. So at the end of the episode tonight, your final 4 are: Michael A., Blake, Justin, and Greg. Andrew gets sent home at the rose ceremony. However, the next day Andrew comes back to say goodbye, which is what we’ve seen in the promos all season.

Basically, I had Andrew and Michael A. flip flopped. Andrew finished 5th with Michael finishing 4th. When I reported that back in May on Michael A., the one thing I knew was that his family never met Katie. So I made the assumption he didn’t finish top 4 since, well, top 4 get hometowns. I made the wrong assumption there on his placement. He finishes 4th, BUT, his family doesn’t meet Katie. At the beginning of next weeks episode, we’ll see Michael self eliminate because of his son, and Katie never meets his family. Then the episode will transition into the “Men Tell All,” which was filmed this past Thursday and Michael was there. And there was an audience in attendance as well. Kaitlyn and Tayshia hosted.

And yes, I can’t WAIT to get the onslaught of “You said Andrew was Final 4!” emails, tweets, and DM’s that are coming tonight even though this info will be posted on all my social platforms today. Neither Michael or Andrew had a hometown date. I had their order screwed up. I can live with that.

alwayscooking wrote:I can't believe Greg went to acting school, he shouldn't quit his day job