Bachelorette 17 - Katie Thurston - S/Caps - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Blake's RC outfit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CddikDd4Vmc

@seton first class sleuthing on the Greg bike date and Justin hometown poetry date!

seton wrote:There is a RC so I figured that these are the men's RC outfits. From Bachelor Nation SM account:



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If these are their RC outfits from the next episode, it would confirm that Andrew S stays longer as we have multiple SCs (sorry, I can never remember how to insert SCs!) of Katie in the pinkish sparkly spaghetti strap dress where she leads Andrew out to the patio with the lights. HTD RCs usually don't have cocktail parties, right? So do we have another episode before HTDs?

seton wrote:Since the press release and some pix has been released, it looks like the "Seattle" date is next week (Katie's outfit matches the photos). I guess that means that Greg's HT is the Bike during the day portion.

The group date is an art tribute to Georgia O'Keefe, not poetry as some suspected.
Since we hear Justin recite a poem in the mid-season previews and Katie refers to Edgar Allan Poe, I just remembered that Poe is buried in Baltimore. Justin's HT is Baltimore so it might be from Justin's HT then.

If the bubblegum date is next week and the bike riding is Greg's HTD daytime activity, when does the SC of having dinner and then running into the rain happen?  I would think since it's raining it would happen the same time as the bike riding date?  A HTD is unlikely since it's just the 2 of them.  If it's a FSD, Katie is dressed very nice but Greg appears to be wearing a t-shirt under his sport coat, don't they usually dress up more for the evening part of a FSD?

luvstx wrote:

seton wrote:There is a RC so I figured that these are the men's RC outfits. From Bachelor Nation SM account:



abc.com

If these are their RC outfits from the next episode, it would confirm that Andrew S stays longer as we have multiple SCs (sorry, I can never remember how to insert SCs!) of Katie in the pinkish sparkly spaghetti strap dress where she leads Andrew out to the patio with the lights.  HTD RCs usually don't have cocktail parties, right?  So do we have another episode before HTDs?

Well it's good to see Andrew in another SC! Katie in the sparkly pink dress is from next weeks group date party. Andrew is wearing his tan jacket and tan turtleneck. The SC of Andrew and Justin I agree has to be from RC. Monkey jump SC's Andrew is wearing his tan jacket but with a white t-shirt.

@alwayscooking Thanks for clarifying the Andrew clothing situation. My old brain forgot about the possibility of the group date cocktail party!

I do think the Greg and Katie biking and rain dates are their FSD. And by process of elimination, Blake and Katie's FSD must include that creepy clown being consumed by flames thing. Clearly Greg got the better dates!

Methinks that Andrew S either self-eliminates before his FSD or she eliminates him before the FSD. OR Katie eliminates everyone but her F1 (whom I think is Blake) at FSD cocktail party or before MTP starts and that's how they wrapped a week early.

JMO.

luvstx wrote:@alwayscooking Thanks for clarifying the Andrew clothing situation.  My old brain forgot about the possibility of the group date cocktail party!

I do think the Greg and Katie biking and rain dates are their FSD.  And by process of elimination, Blake and Katie's FSD must include that creepy clown being consumed by flames thing.  Clearly Greg got the better dates!

Methinks that Andrew S either self-eliminates before his FSD or she eliminates him before the FSD.  OR Katie eliminates everyone but her F1 (whom I think is Blake) at FSD cocktail party or before MTP starts and that's how they wrapped a week early.

JMO.

According to RS, Greg and Katie have a major blowout during the daytime of his FSD, and it's not pretty.  I have a feeling all those SC's of Greg happen next episode.  So more and more it's easy to believe that there really was only one full/overnight FSD as specualted.    I wonder who's is first Greg and the blowout or Blakes?  It'll be interesting to see how she goes from heartbroken over Greg to engaged to Blake.

ETA: Just went and read the whole article and Greg goes to Katie's room on an off day during FSD's and that's when the blowout happened.

alwayscooking wrote:

luvstx wrote:@alwayscooking Thanks for clarifying the Andrew clothing situation.  My old brain forgot about the possibility of the group date cocktail party!

I do think the Greg and Katie biking and rain dates are their FSD.  And by process of elimination, Blake and Katie's FSD must include that creepy clown being consumed by flames thing.  Clearly Greg got the better dates!

Methinks that Andrew S either self-eliminates before his FSD or she eliminates him before the FSD.  OR Katie eliminates everyone but her F1 (whom I think is Blake) at FSD cocktail party or before MTP starts and that's how they wrapped a week early.

JMO.

According to RS, Greg and Katie have a major blowout during the daytime of his FSD, and it's not pretty.  I have a feeling all those SC's of Greg happen next episode.  So more and more it's easy to believe that there really was only one full/overnight FSD as specualted.    I wonder who's is first Greg and the blowout or Blakes?  It'll be interesting to see how she goes from heartbroken over Greg to engaged to Blake.

ETA:  Just went and read the whole article and Greg goes to Katie's room on an off day during FSD's and that's when the blowout happened.

Could the bikes be an activity of Greg’s HTD?

I’m wondering if Greg has his FSD before the “fight day” or if he leaves & doesn’t have a FSD at all.

@jojo47 we've been thinking all along that the bike date and the rain date were the same day/date. Good thinking that the bikes could be part of his HTD. Time will tell I guess.

Starting at :26 Blakes comments are a combination of v/o and spliced and diced. jmo's.
I find it hard to believe any contestant would say "I'm not in love with her" but I guess we shall see.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CddikDd4Vmc&feature=emb_imp_woyt

alwayscooking wrote:

seton wrote:Since the press release and some pix has been released, it looks like the "Seattle" date is next week (Katie's outfit matches the photos). I guess that means that Greg's HT is the Bike during the day portion.

The group date is an art tribute to Georgia O'Keefe, not poetry as some suspected.
Since we hear Justin recite a poem in the mid-season previews and Katie refers to Edgar Allan Poe, I just remembered that Poe is buried in Baltimore. Justin's HT is Baltimore so it might be from Justin's HT then.

If the bubblegum date is next week and the bike riding is Greg's HTD daytime activity, when does the SC of having dinner and then running into the rain happen?  I would think since it's raining it would happen the same time as the bike riding date?  A HTD is unlikely since it's just the 2 of them.  If it's a FSD, Katie is dressed very nice but Greg appears to be wearing a t-shirt under his sport coat, don't they usually dress up more for the evening part of a FSD?  

We have to go by the preview that everythging that is shown happens next week. Since we were shown the night rain kiss, it seems to go with the Seattle date during the day. It seems weird that Greg gets TWO rainy dates which might further support that the night rain was done by rain machine theory some have put forth.

GuardianAngel wrote:Starting at :26 Blakes comments are a combination of v/o and spliced and diced. jmo's.
I find it hard to believe any contestant would say "I'm not in love with her" but I guess we shall see.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CddikDd4Vmc&feature=emb_imp_woyt

I think it is an editing trick and Blake says he "couldn't not be in love with her" not that "I'm not in love with her."