Bachelorette Ukraine - Season 2 - Zlata Ognevich - Episodes - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

mercieme wrote:Andri’s date seemed very flat to me. I understand he is reserved and skating is part of what he enjoys but I think he has had better dates than this one with Zlata.

Andrei used to figure skate all his childhood 6 days a week at this place and he still likes doing it, it's his hobby. He was telling her about that. Yes, he is a very reserved guy and it's very difficult for him to open up. He looks pretty much the same all the time.

mercieme wrote:They hardly held hands in the second part of the date (in his house I suppose) and it came across as two folks going on a date for the first time?

Last 5 years Andrei lived in USA, many years in Miami lately, but in the spring of this year he moved to Tulum, Mexico. And after that he found out that Zlata was suppose to be The Ukrainian Bachelorette and he went to Ukraine to take part in it. But he already had sold his apartment in Ukraine a while ago because he was not planning to live there anymore. So he doesn't have his place in Ukraine.

mercieme wrote:The tree decoration was fun though.

Zlata always works during New Year's celebration and while living in the USA Andrei also didn't celebrate New Year much. In Russia and Ukraine New Year's celebration is the biggest celebration of the year! And people decorate Christmas trees there for New Year's celebration and put gifts under the trees. So Andrei wanted to celebrate a New Year with Zlata in the middle of summer and they decorated a tree at some place.

mercieme wrote:Is it custom to decorate trees with money?

It is a custom in Andrei's family and he did the same with Zlata.

mercieme wrote:They also discussed him being away in the US for work…. was Zlata ok with this as it would be similar to how Max needs to travel for work.

Andrei told Zlata from the very beginning that he could live in any country, his business is in Ukraine and if they would be together he would move back to Ukraine.

mercieme wrote:I like Andri but I don’t see much between him and Zlata at this point.

I like Andrei too, he is a great guy, but there is not much between him and Zlata. And he has no idea how strong her relationship let's say with Max at this point. He couldn't see them together.

Thanks @Maddy for the explanations, really appreciate you

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWQ4vFbqERw/
Link above is another preview for the HTDs and it’s Andre Z’s mum that out Zlata to work in the garden  Andre the diva’s mum looks like she has an emotional conversation with Zlata. And Max is going to have the business obstacle with the family. Dima’s HTD doesn’t look dramatic in the preview but no idea.

On another note, Zlata posted this pic below earlier and many comments are guessing it’s her & Zima. Some other comments are that it’s a stock pic from the photographer she tagged. I have no idea but i know she can’t post the outcome till after the finale.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWRI9IgoczR/

mercieme wrote:Awww…..Dima’s date started so well. The flowers were over the top. Are flowers relatively inexpensive in Ukraine? Those flowers would cost a lot in the US.

I had no idea, just know that people over there in general don't make that much. I had to ask Ukrainians about that. The flowers like that could cost around $100, minimum monthly pay is $200, pensions are $100, most of the people like doctors and teachers make about $500 a month, some around $1000. Dima has a cleaning business, I don't know how much he makes, but don't think it's really a lot. But he looked great and the flowers were very, very beautiful!
Will write more later.

@Maddy thanks so much for all this. It's really appreciated!!!

@mercieme Thanks for the links!!!

While I was trying to check on Dima's date I lost my internet connection for few hours and just got it back!

mercieme wrote:Anywhoo, I loved the old school romantic vibe that this date started off with.

Yes, I also loved retro car and retro vibe this date had.

mercieme wrote:I get that Dima is big into boxing but did Zlata enjoy that date?  I take  boxing classes and I was cracking up at Zlata’s swings….I don’t think she is cut out for fight clubs

Oh, you take boxing classes, interesting! And Zlata enjoyed that too and she liked how he was training her.

mercieme wrote:So I got so confused in the evening portion of this date at Dima’s house. Was something said that changed the mood?

Dima brought Zlata into the apartment he was renting from friends that he didn't like that much and he was afraid she wouldn't like it. Then he thought that bringing someone into his place meant a lot to him and meant that the relationship was progressing well but he knew that she already visited other guys places and he lost his good mood at this point because of thoughts like that. And he felt like shutting himself up, but he didn't say anything to her.

mercieme wrote:Zlata tried to re-create how they held each other when Zima made pizza a few episodes back and she seemed frustrated that he wasn’t reciprocating and I think she said in her ITM that Dima ignored her during cooking but please confirm.

She said that all of a sudden he stopped being friendly and it was not pleasant to deal with him and she felt like leaving him, but out of respect for him she kept trying to do something to help him to get out of it though she had no idea what happened.

I need to check more things later and after doing that I'll write more.

mercieme wrote:What did Dima say at the RC during their sit down to explain what happened?

He said that when she came to visit him he didn't feel good because she already visited other guys and he didn't know what she felt for him. But he didn't tell her anything at that moment because he didn't want her thinking that it was jealousy or something like that.
She asked him if it was the only reason why he was like that. He said yes. He became distant. She asked why couldn't he tell her all that then, she would've understood that. He said if he was sure 100% she was his he would've told her that. And then he said that she shouldn't have visited others trying to figure out who she liked, then they wouldn't have this problem. (Hopefully you were able to understand what I was trying to write and I haven't messed up English grammar too bad )

mercieme wrote:I still think Dima is the number two guy at this point...

I also think Dima is the number two guy at this point and she likes him a lot, though Zlata knows he has some problems in relationships. At the beginning he told her that his marriage fell apart not that long ago because they were fighting a lot and then he would stay with his friends instead of going home to her.
After their sit down Zlata said in her ITM that because of all that she was not sure if she wanted a relationship with him or not.

I'm done with Dima's date and will deal with the rest later.

mercieme wrote:At this point I don’t get why producers make the guys still analyze the connections of the other guys with Zlata.

Maybe because everything is a bit flat and boring. Looks like they want more drama, but the guys are pretty friendly.

mercieme wrote:In any of the sit downs, did the guys mention any guy that wasn’t a good fit for Zlata?

No, nobody ever said anything like that. Just Andrei H said in this episode while Max was on a date with Zlata that he couldn't see her with him. Andrei Z, who is friends with Max, said after that something like: Really? Then I also cannot see him with her and started laughing. Then the cam panned to Dima and he said something like: Well, then I also don't see her with him. Andrei H said, great, then meet the finalists! Meaning 3 of them. But after Max got a rose from Zlata during the RC in his ITM Andrei H said he was sure Zlta was going to send Max home, but looked like she liked him more than he expected. Maybe he was thinking like that because Max never had a 1-on-1 date with Zlata before that week, but we know that their romantic content was always much stronger than with anybody else whenever they were together.  

mercieme wrote:I suspect Maxim would be the one with a target on his back from the other guys because of how he is upfront about his feelings and Zlata also validating him IMO at the oyster group date, feeding him in front of the others. Also why the heck did the producers deliver that omelette breakfast from Zlata to Maxim in front of the other guys?

I think they needed more drama.  

mercieme wrote:Zlata making breakfast for Maxim is also validating him IMO.

Zlata making breakfast for Maxim is validating him big time! I'm not sure she made it though because she was suppose to be on the date with Andrei H. But he didn't like it when the guys told him what happened, he didn't like her thinking of Max while being on the date with him.

Next I'll check on what Zlata wrote in the note to Max about making breakfast for him probably tomorrow. I got very busy with that and totally forgot about our bachelorette tonight!

mercieme wrote:Also why the heck did the producers deliver that omelette breakfast from Zlata to Maxim in front of the other guys?

I think the whole point making breakfast for Max was to deliver it in front of the other guys and to show their reaction to it.

mercieme wrote:Can you please explain what Zlata wrote in that note to Max about making breakfast for him?

Good morning Max!
I would like you to have your breakfast more often at home than in restaurants.
Shall we continue our tradition? Now it's my turn to cook.
Bon appetite!  

I don't think Zlata had anything to do with it at all. I'm sure it was done by producers and then they told Zlata that they did that.

mercieme wrote: I just want the suspense over as to when/if Roma returns.

Me too. The longer he is absent the less chances he has for anything and she is a shy guy, it will take him a while to reconnect to Zlata. I don't really understand that.

mercieme wrote:I wonder how many episodes are left...

They are going to have 12 all together. So probably 4 if we watched 8 so far.

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Thanks @Maddy for all the explanations. I am glad it’s only 4 episodes left. I am beginning to think that natik is right that Zlata is not with whoever she picked post show. I say this because her IG stories & postings don’t feel like she is in a relationship to me. Also all the guys are friendly & hanging out post show. Happy to be wrong though. I am still going to watch till the very end

@mercieme, I am also going to watch till the very end!  

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