Bachelor 25 - Matt James - F1 - F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Ruqibabe wrote:I am glad for how it allegedly ended.. Those amazing ladies (F2 to F5) deserve mature men.. Tayshia's type of men.. I still think Abigail is in the lead for the next Bachelorette position even though she is allegedly F5..

I agree. Based solely on their exit positions the ones in the running for the next Bette would appear to be Bri and Michelle, with Serena and Abigail with an outside shot. I think Serena is out due to her age. I really don't think tptb would have a third season in a row with a poc as the lead, so that brings us to Abigail. They would still continue with diversity by having someone with a hearing disability. It will be up to her. She might decline and then they might go with one of the others, but they could also go back and pull someone from a past season.

Bri’s refusal to even acknowledge the show on her SM tells me she’s not playing the game & might not be interested in being bachelorette. I think for now, Abigail’s the frontrunner (makes top 5, tons of SM followers already, she’s Asian so they can pat themselves on diversity, & she has a story that will make people root for her). Outside shot is Michelle but let’s be real, they’re not choosing 3 black leads in a row imo. I agree that Serena’s too young. All jmo.

Ruqibabe wrote:I am glad for how it allegedly ended.. Those amazing ladies (F2 to F5) deserve mature men.. Tayshia's type of men.. I still think Abigail is in the lead for the next Bachelorette position even though she is allegedly F5..

THIS! it's a disappointment of a season but I'm super excited to get to know the rest of his F5 better and watch them with Clayshia's men in paradise

@ReneeM Maybe Bri is heartbroken.. I saw a comment on reddit that a friend said she felt really tired and stressed about the whole experience. I wonder if things ended badly too. She is definitely not playing ball with the producers.. 
I love Abigail and I think she is a potential Bachelorette lead but I dont want her in that position. I feel she would get spoilt and overwhelmed. Maybe Abigail is stronger than we think.. i wish the producers would show us an in-depth conversation of Abigail and a fellow woman or Matt..

Maybe she was double crossed by TPTB. Maybe they whispered all along she was going to be the F1. IMO something definitely has happened for her not to participate in promoting the show on IG as so many do or obliged to do.

Also her massive clean up, I have that in the back of my mind. There has to be a reason for that IMO.

yellowbirdcage wrote:

Ruqibabe wrote:I am glad for how it allegedly ended.. Those amazing ladies (F2 to F5) deserve mature men.. Tayshia's type of men.. I still think Abigail is in the lead for the next Bachelorette position even though she is allegedly F5..

THIS! it's a disappointment of a season but I'm super excited to get to know the rest of his F5 better and watch them with Clayshia's men in paradise

Definite disappointment. I’m torn. I want to see the other ladies, but not interested in watching Michelle get her heart broken as F2 knowing that it won’t likely lead to anything else. She won’t be Bette and she doesn’t strike me as the BIP type. She seems too private for that. Plus, I could care less about his “love story” with Rachael.

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Does anybody think Matt listening to Rachael’s Spotify playlist was intentional? Possibly to get the mainstream entertainment media to focus on Rachael and ... snipped It’s kind of analogous to when People dropped the Jed/Haley article and it prompted Hannah ending her relationship with Jed and then asking Tyler out. It basically gives the show time to do something with the mess before the finale.  I’m not convinced that ABC wants to be known as the network with a F1 who likes ... snipped I also think it’s not in Matt’s interest to be with a problematic person. Strategically it makes his life more difficult, and I believe Matt is a strategic person.  I’m also surprised that Matt of all people would mistakenly listen to his F1’s Spotify. He’s so SM savvy and extremely private about his life. A mistake or not understanding how Bach fans sleuth these things doesn’t add up to me. All IMO

mbl wrote:snipped  I’m also surprised that Matt of all people would mistakenly listen to his F1’s Spotify. He’s so SM savvy and extremely private about his life. A mistake or not understanding how Bach fans sleuth these things doesn’t add up to me. All IMO

I'm also surprised that he listened to her Spotify. There's no doubt for me that he knew what Tyler went through where everyone was watching his every move, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing games.

You would think Tyler of all people would be the first one to give him advice going forward after filming, how to conduct himself, what to watch out for.

Who ever his F1 is, IMO it won't last past the airing of FRC. Hope I'm wrong for all involved because it gets messy.

@GuardianAngel i also don't think his relationship with his F1 might not last because he isnt ready for any serious commitment... I believe Matt is still in that Bro before girl mode and has minimal life experience to commit to a long lasting relationship.. This is why I am happy that none of my girls, the F2 to F5 weren't chosen by him. He needs a couple of years and series of heartbreak to be mature for any sensible woman. I hope he doesn't do a switch during the final rose ceremony because he doesnt deserve those amazing ladies... IMO

I've mentioned this before, but having Abigail as the B'ette could be difficult if an engagement is expected & if her deafness is genetic. She said that her sister is deaf, too, which makes me wonder. Although the kids both could have had meningitis or something? Don't know. But if I were contemplating marrying someone who was deaf, I would want genetic counseling before deciding to marry & have children, if that were high on my list. I do think she's adorable & a very engaging young lady.

provenceguy wrote:I've mentioned this before, but having Abigail as the B'ette could be difficult if an engagement is expected & if her deafness is genetic. She said that her sister is deaf, too, which makes me wonder. Although the kids both could have had meningitis or something? Don't know. But if I were contemplating marrying someone who was deaf, I would want genetic counseling before deciding to marry & have children, if that were high on my list. I do think she's adorable & a very engaging young lady.

I get what you are saying BUT if Abigail was announced prior to casting, the serious guys should have researched before applying. There should be no excuse in my opinion

You would hope so....