Bachelor 25 - Matt James - F1 - F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

For all we know it could’ve been Tyler on that call and all the cat and mouse follow/unfollows are traps to drum up interest. Ms. James seems to enjoy the attention

sun20j2001 wrote:

sportsgirl94 wrote:

sun20j2001 wrote:So after getting caught following and unfollowing rachael Matt's mother then followed abigail. Then after 11:30 last night she followed everyone else. Something is up.

Damage control?  I am sure the producers were not happy with her taking a picture of Matt talking with his F1.  The picture came down quickly; I’m guessing she is doing this to throw people off.  

The rachael part is weird to me.

I agree with you. Abigail makes sense as she received the first impression rose. Rachael makes no sense to me at all.

I agree with the people who are saying Matt's final 1 is someone who hasn't been shown a lot in the previews so far. If I remember correctly people like Cassie and Vanessa weren't shown a lot in the previews for Colton's and Nick's seasons. The F1 is usually pretty hidden in the previews.  I do think girls like Mari and Abigail went far but I have no idea who could be Matt's F1.

sun20j2001 wrote:

sportsgirl94 wrote:

sun20j2001 wrote:So after getting caught following and unfollowing rachael Matt's mother then followed abigail. Then after 11:30 last night she followed everyone else. Something is up.

Damage control?  I am sure the producers were not happy with her taking a picture of Matt talking with his F1.  The picture came down quickly; I’m guessing she is doing this to throw people off.  

The rachael part is weird to me.

Maybe it was a mistake? Because it was a pretty quick follow and unfollow...

I think we also now have a clearer idea of who makes the final cut / first night and who doesn't by Patty's follows, because she's not following all the girls and the pre show cuts / night one eliminations are a little blurry...

And after leaving Abigail the only follow for a few hours (I feel this was intentional to leave her the only follow for so long), and then she relatively quickly followed the rest of the girls.

In order:
Abigail, Anna, Emani, Katie, Ryan, Serena C, MJ, Kristin, Victoria, Sydney, Illeana, Magi, Lauren, Khaylah, Sarah, Chelsea, Pieper, Kim, Alicia, Brittany, Serena P, Rachael, Michelle, Talie, Nicole Remy, Marylynn, Mari, Kimberly, Catalina, Amber, Alana, Marie, Jessenia (private).

Previously followed:
Kit.

Not following:
Bri (private), Carolyn, Casandra (private), Corinne, Kaili, Kennedy, Madison (private), Nicole Rovner (private), Saneh.

(I just italicised the known / seen in promos girls Patty's not following who will be in the season).. which would bring it to 36 girls on the season. So if you add Madison by rumours, that's 37... 32 start with 5 intruders..


ETA: As I was posting this, Jessenia accepted Patty's friend request, but still has her profile set as private.

butterflylove wrote:

sun20j2001 wrote:

sportsgirl94 wrote:

sun20j2001 wrote:So after getting caught following and unfollowing rachael Matt's mother then followed abigail. Then after 11:30 last night she followed everyone else. Something is up.

Damage control?  I am sure the producers were not happy with her taking a picture of Matt talking with his F1.  The picture came down quickly; I’m guessing she is doing this to throw people off.  

The rachael part is weird to me.

Maybe it was a mistake? Because it was a pretty quick follow and unfollow...

I think we also now have a clearer idea of who makes the final cut / first night and who doesn't by Patty's follows, because she's not following all the girls and the pre show cuts / night one eliminations are a little blurry...

And after leaving Abigail the only follow for a few hours (I feel this was intentional to leave her the only follow for so long), and then she relatively quickly followed the rest of the girls.

In order:
Abigail, Anna, Emani, Katie, Ryan, Serena C, MJ, Kristin, Victoria, Sydney, Illeana, Magi, Lauren, Khaylah, Sarah, Chelsea, Pieper, Kim, Alicia, Brittany, Serena P, Rachael, Michelle, Talie, Nicole Remy, Marylynn, Mari, Kimberly, Catalina, Amber, Alana, Marie, Jessenia (private).

Previously followed:
Kit.

Not following:
Bri (private), Carolyn, Casandra (private), Corinne, Kaili, Kennedy, Madison (private), Nicole Rovner (private), Saneh.

(I just italicised the known / seen in promos girls Patty's not following who will be in the season).. which would bring it to 36 girls on the season. So if you add Madison by rumours, that's 37... 32 start with 5 intruders..


ETA: As I was posting this, Jessenia accepted Patty's friend request, but still has her profile set as private.

Great list! Interestingly, Jessenia is following Patty.

butterflylove wrote:
In order:
Abigail, Anna, Emani, Katie, Ryan, Serena C, MJ, Kristin, Victoria, Sydney, Illeana, Magi, Lauren, Khaylah, Sarah, Chelsea, Pieper, Kim, Alicia, Brittany, Serena P, Rachael, Michelle, Talie, Nicole Remy, Marylynn, Mari, Kimberly, Catalina, Amber, Alana, Marie, Jessenia (private).

Previously followed:
Kit.

Not following:
Bri (private), Carolyn, Casandra (private), Corinne, Kaili, Kennedy, Madison (private), Nicole Rovner (private), Saneh.

(I just italicised the known / seen in promos girls Patty's not following who will be in the season).. which would bring it to 36 girls on the season. So if you add Madison by rumours, that's 37... 32 start with 5 intruders..

I'm still unsure about Madison and if she was an intruder, but from the promos I think there were 31 girl on Night 1

@butterflylove Great list!

We have Bri who has done a major clean up of her IG and is still private. (I just checked) The other few that are private we have a good indication of when they got back on SM before filming ended.

Most of them got back on SM at the same time. Jesinea's twitter follow increased by one on Nov 22, Sunday following the RC. On Nov 27th it was noticed Bri started her IG clean up.

I would say these two are F1/F2, in no particular order.

We have 42 contestants listed in the Contestant's threads. Where is our discrepancy? Sorry I started going through them to see who was cut before filming started, I sort of remember that? TYIA

GuardianAngel wrote:@butterflylove Great list!

We have Bri who has done a major clean up of her IG and is still private. (I just checked) The other few that are private we have a good indication of when they got back on SM before filming ended.

Most of them got back on SM at the same time. Jesinea's twitter follow increased by one on Nov 22, Sunday following the RC. On Nov 27th it was noticed Bri started her IG clean up.

I would say these two are F1/F2, in no particular order.

We have 42 contestants listed in the Contestant's threads. Where is our discrepancy? Sorry I started going through them to see who was cut before filming started, I sort of remember that? TYIA

I don’t recall seeing Catalina, Marie, Kim L., Kennedy, Madison (which RS spoiled), Anna and neither Nicole in any screenshots released.

@sportsgirl94 thanks, so do we think those you listed didn't make the cut to begin with? Or maybe they were extras incase someone tested positive.

GuardianAngel wrote:@sportsgirl94 thanks, so do we think those you listed didn't make the cut to begin with? Or maybe they were extras incase someone tested positive.

I think they didn’t make the cut initially. I’m not sure if they are among the group of girls rumored to be brought in when Sarah eliminated herself. I definitely don’t think Kennedy, Nicole Rovnerand Marie were brought back. I think they appeared on IG quickly after filming began. I can see Nicole Remy and Catalina being brought in.

Kennedy's IG reactivated Oct 10, Oct 12th @sun20j2001 sleuthed Marie was public, then back to private back to public, following Kennedy. Nicole was the last person to follow Kennedy. Catalina made her IG public same time as the others, so I would think she was there for filming.

Marie
Kennedy
Nicole

If the M&G was Oct 10th then I would think they may have been the ones cut before filming. I'm just trying to figure out if there are 37 contestants who are the 5 that we have extra.

If memory serves me correct, they'll be releasing them first week of December.

@GuardianAngel  Kristin joined twitter in November. Is it possible she was one of the last two? Also checked out her mom's page and she didn't like a post again until the 22nd.

Here is her first tweet. Telling imo.   https://mobile.twitter.com/kristinbhopkins/status/1331051182584979463