Bachelorette 16 - Clare Crawley & Tayshia Adams - Media SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Some "Bachelorette" spoilers for you now up at: https://t.co/0SX3M9u5VI. Yes I understand it's not everything. And it's not a detailed breakdown. But I'm giving you what I have. No one else has posted anything whatsoever, so, before the bitching starts, just think first. Thx.

— RealitySteve (@RealitySteve) September 30, 2020

https://twitter.com/RealitySteve/status/1311324452098134018?s=20

So the reporting first Said from ET that Tayshia was told Clare was gonna be the forefront first then she would come in, makes it even more proof that they knew they were gonna bring tayshia in. Interesting that RS says he wishes he could tell how he knows and his proof but maybe in the future he’ll be able to.

I wonder if Clare was also in on this arrangement?

Clare from her most recent IG post in the comments, At least seems excited for the show to start. So she must not be that upset, as RS stated she agreed to it I doubt if she didn’t they would’ve still went ahead anyway if she disagreed. I’ve seen comments saying things could’ve changed during the duration of the show if she kept filming and could’ve ended up with someone else, which I agree with. But the show could’ve f’d her as I think she really went on the show for love. I hope it works out for her and dale.

Chris Harrison won’t give away any of the series’ secrets before the premiere of #TheBachelorette.  https://t.co/KKq7iqunVE

— Us Weekly (@usweekly) September 30, 2020

 

https://twitter.com/usweekly/status/1311343806927835141?s=20

Chris Harrison says #TheBachelor team has made real strides in their effort to promote inclusion and diversity across the franchise. https://t.co/qczIRNvqGy

— Entertainment Tonight (@etnow) September 30, 2020

https://twitter.com/etnow/status/1311330462623768578?s=20

bluwavz wrote:

Some "Bachelorette" spoilers for you now up at: https://t.co/0SX3M9u5VI. Yes I understand it's not everything. And it's not a detailed breakdown. But I'm giving you what I have. No one else has posted anything whatsoever, so, before the bitching starts, just think first. Thx.

— RealitySteve (@RealitySteve) September 30, 2020

 

https://twitter.com/RealitySteve/status/1311324452098134018?s=20

I feel that RS is so biased when it comes to Clare that it affects his credibility. He has been manipulated a lot lately and proved to believe what he wants to believe, so who knows what his information is worth.

I don’t think TPTB where blindsided by Clare or that she suddenly refused to cooperate, but I’m also not so sure that they planned the switch before filming started like RS claims. There are lots of scenarios between those two. My best guess is that they realized a few days in that Clare’s mind was made up and that she didn’t hide it from the contestants, so they started to prepare for a plan B.

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Here are some comments from JoJo on her time on set. No actual info, but still fun to hear.
https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/PPY5118864475?selected=PPY6827140342 – starting at 35:30

All JMO

Exclusive: Will season 16 of #TheBachelorette actually be the most dramatic ever? JoJo Fletcher, who filled in for host Chris Harrison for several episodes, certainly thinks so. https://t.co/hrwd5poX2c

— Us Weekly (@usweekly) September 30, 2020

https://twitter.com/usweekly/status/1311404204905377797?s=20

I didn't read RS's blog or anything else that claims it was pre arranged for Tayshia to come in later, but I've always thought that from the beginning.

They had a list of 40? guys, that the majority were far to young for Clare, then that was changed and they were recasting, but at the time I thought that was an unusual amount of cast.

Apparently Clare didn't speak to Dale prior to filming, that's what various sources Michelle Money are saying. I didn't believe that because I posted a clip from an article early on, at a time when there wasn't even a date for filming scheduled, where CH is quoted as saying Clare has been in contact with some of the contestants.

Then we hear about Clare leaving and Tayshia coming in and Clare made up her mind after two weeks. It just sounded too scripted for me. JMO's With her life experiences, and he seems like a solid guy, I can't believe either one of them, Clare or Dale would commit to each other in two weeks, without constant contact for several months before hand which TPTB knew about.

Reality Steve live update, 9/30/20:
1. He has 8/9 of the girls for Matt, of them 1 is black the others are white. He said matts cast won’t be any different than the other bachelor casts 22-25 yr olds. There is a Tiktoker, pageant girl, etc. eta: he said we don’t know how many women of color will be on but the basics will be the same as any other. 
2. Dodgeball/Yosef drama: the guys have a dodgeball date where the losers had to walk home naked or to that effect, yosef gets upset about it even though he wasn’t on the date. Yosef goes off as he’s probably drunk calling Clare names and things quote “he just loses it, drinking probably played a role”, saying that the things yosef says are really bad, he will come off really bad. Both RS and Ashley s way the date is stupid but Not unlike other dates they’ve had though unsure why yosef cared as he wasn’t even on the date or why he lost it at Clare as producers come up with the date idea and he wasn’t even on the date quote “Yosef he just didn’t appreciate it.” 
3. Tayshia’s ending: he’s heard that tayshia end was messy, she was indecisive, quote “she could be with No one, she could be with someone and having second thoughts, she could be with someone and there having second thoughts” He said he’ll give the end when he has it, but until then everyone is just gonna analyze the final four SM to death. Ashley S asks him what he thinks he says in terms of the guys, he’s heard that ivan is very quiet, not saying tayshia wouldn’t go for someone quiet from what he’s heard he’d be surprised if she picked him. Zac C he doesn’t see leaving NJ as he owns two sober living place and doesn’t see tayshia moving to NJ, but again people have chosen F1s were the location differences aren’t the best. Ben and Brendan make the most sense geographically and generally. He’s heard the rumors of people saying Ben sister is saying he’s f2. He said he’s heard so many crazy things that happened.
4. Clare/dale update: 100% still together, IMO not surprised as Clare seems excited for it to start on her ig, prob just wants what happened to be out.

They talked about other stuff but this is what’s related to the seasons filming now.

bluwavz wrote:

I had earlier this season reported 6 guys didn't get roses on night 1. It's actually 7 guys:

AJ Yalawan
Chris Conran
Jeremy Higgins
Jordan Manier
Mike Tobin
Page Pressley
Robby Stahl

— RealitySteve (@RealitySteve) September 29, 2020

 

https://twitter.com/RealitySteve/status/1310997303327633408

Not really a big deal but RS seems to be missing one name for the eliminated contestants on night one. The press release for episode one says only 23 guys remain at the end if the night. So that means 8 guys had to be eliminated unless the press release is the one wrong.

Not looking forward to the Yosef stuff. If it is as bad as it sounds. It just sounds like something producers should of stopped and not have influence (which it more likely was) instead of something that’s going to be used ‘entertainment.’ Also looks like the guy Tyler C has dirt on is Yosef as well. Clare is seated between them in one of the press release pictures. So it looks like Yosef was a big story board for these producers from the get go, jmo.

Per the yosef drama, obviously the date is horrible and mostly dumb as even RS and Ashley S stated, but why would Yosef care when he wasn’t even on the date I don’t know. RS said in his live they will continue to have these type of dates as they’ve had before. He’s probably just a jerk as a few people who matched with him on dating apps have put in reddit that he was a jerk and full of himself. Also, he’s middle eastern and this isn’t a stereotype as half of my family is ME but he gives off a vibe that he is sexist and a vibe of some men I’ve met. It’s unfortunate.

Zaynab wrote:Reality Steve live update, 9/30/20:
1. He has 8/9 of the girls for Matt, of them 1 is black the others are white. He said matts cast won’t be any different than the other bachelor casts 22-25 yr olds. There is a Tiktoker, pageant girl, etc. eta: he said we don’t know how many women of color will be on but the basics will be the same as any other. 
2. Dodgeball/Yosef drama: the guys have a dodgeball date where the losers had to walk home naked or to that effect, yosef gets upset about it even though he wasn’t on the date. Yosef goes off as he’s probably drunk calling Clare names and things quote “he just loses it, drinking probably played a role”, saying that the things yosef says are really bad, he will come off really bad. Both RS and Ashley s way the date is stupid but Not unlike other dates they’ve had though unsure why yosef cared as he wasn’t even on the date or why he lost it at Clare as producers come up with the date idea and he wasn’t even on the date quote “Yosef he just didn’t appreciate it.” 
3. Tayshia’s ending: he’s heard that tayshia end was messy, she was indecisive, quote “she could be with No one, she could be with someone and having second thoughts, she could be with someone and there having second thoughts” He said he’ll give the end when he has it, but until then everyone is just gonna analyze the final four SM to death. Ashley S asks him what he thinks he says in terms of the guys, he’s heard that ivan is very quiet, not saying tayshia wouldn’t go for someone quiet from what he’s heard he’d be surprised if she picked him. Zac C he doesn’t see leaving NJ as he owns two sober living place and doesn’t see tayshia moving to NJ, but again people have chosen F1s were the location differences aren’t the best. Ben and Brendan make the most sense geographically and generally. He’s heard the rumors of people saying Ben sister is saying he’s f2. He said he’s heard so many crazy things that happened.
4. Clare/dale update: 100% still together, IMO not surprised as Clare seems excited for it to start on her ig, prob just wants what happened to be out.

They talked about other stuff but this is what’s related to the seasons filming now.

I’m going wait and require more details before blindly believing this. Last year with Peter he didn’t know who was F1 for the longest time & although Peter’s season eventually ended up messy, he had a regular FRC where he proposed, his F1 accepted, & they were solid for a month before everything imploded. Jmo.