Bachelor Australia - Season 8 - Locky Gilbert - Episodes - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

My god what was that episode.  Anyone who hasn't watched, do yourself a favour and skip it; I can sum it up for you in three screencaps:







Source: Tenplay

Bec has taken over as Golden Girl.  Of the girls left Irena is clearly his favourite but it's still not enough to make for a convincing relationship IMO.



Steph and Izzy seem so normal and sensible in contrast to the other girls - they must have felt like they got thrown into an absolute loony bin.

Bobette wrote:My god what was that episode.  Anyone who hasn't watched, do yourself a favour and skip it; I can sum it up for you in three screencaps:







Source: Tenplay

Bec was the only highlight.  Of the girls left Irena is clearly his favourite but it's still not enough to make for a convincing relationship IMO.

Steph and Izzy seem so normal and sensible in contrast to the other girls - they must have felt like they got thrown into an absolute loony bin.

If you thought that was bad check the delusion in this interview https://punkee.com.au/the-bachelor-roxi-interview/108235 . Yikes. As IF Locky would instigate the conversation about the kiss. I don't believe for a second she left cos of Juliette. She saw his irritation towards her in that last convo and decided to get out and save face before she was dumped. imo.

Izzy pierced Locky's ear at the cocktail party as if this season could not get any weirder, hahah.


https://www.instagram.com/stories/hijosh/2395567345140419327/

DIY ear piercings at a party - what is this, 1985?

Bella and Irena fight seems to be heavily edited! Specially the "manipulative little b****" from Bella's mouth that wasn't even shown (not that I am a Bella fan) IMO something more must have happened during the lockdown that must have taken place in order for them to lose trust in each other rather than just not informing the specific details about Locky.
And wasn't Irena upset with Bella when she kissed Locky during the cocktail party? She did the same last episode!!

And Abbie giving out her views about Bella's Villan edit!
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8720569/amp/Bachelors-Abbie-Chatfield-defends-Bella-Varelis-labelled-villain.html


Bella's Mum defending her daughter on her comments section



https://www.instagram.com/p/CE_W5pDBYo1/?igshid=7pt3yn3v1b00

Editing can definitely alter perceptions, big time, there's no doubt about that. Frankenbiting can change things and I agree that if you don't see it coming out of their mouth there's every chance they didn't say it in that context and/or about that person. But I don't particularly find a mum defending her daughter as evidence of anything other than a mum being a mum.

I'm not saying this to you @Missnair but just generally: the answer to "Bella shouldn't be turned into a villain" isn't "turn Irena into one instead". At the end of the seasons of these shows, years down the track, after BiP etc, they all always end up friends or at least they all get over whatever petty crap happens in the house. It's not that big a deal, no matter what happened.

I agree nobody should be hateful on SM; people need to take a step back and remember the line between fun snark on a silly tv show and hateful/mean comments; and contestants (and mums) alike need to remember that they agreed to go on a show that would edit them anyway the producers wanted to.

Perfect comment @leavers, especially this part

leavers wrote:
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I agree nobody should be hateful on SM; people need to take a step back and remember the line between fun snark on a silly tv show and hateful/mean comments; and contestants (and mums) alike need to remember that they agreed to go on a show that would edit them anyway the producers wanted to.

I’m actually sick of the whole trend on Bach AU of having a super obvious F1 because the F2 came out of nowhere half way through the season (Rochelle, Lisa, Lana, Elise) or was a villain (Abbie, potentially Bella).
Badgers season was a bit better, but even then, Sophie wasn’t featured much early on. Richies season was the only one with any suspense, and that’s because Alex got a bad edit, although she wasn’t a villain IMO.

And Abbie just needs to go away. If you’re not watching the show because it “triggers” you, you don’t get to make a comment on things that you’ve heard happened, just like frankenbyting, context is everything.

LOL at mum totally spoiling the ending of the season with that first sentence "your journey has already ended...".  

I agree @leavers people need to accept that whether you applied for the show through the normal process or the producers approached you, sucked up to you, implied you'd go far if you signed up etc, at the end of the day when you join this show you have zero control of how you will be portrayed.

And besides, I actually feel like Bella's portrayal is pretty accurate.  Her mum's comments only re-inforce my suspicion that this is a girl who has grown up being treated like a spoiled princess and showered with compliments, even as she goes around calling other people "manipulative little b*tches".

Re: Abbie, 1. I don't believe for one second she's not watching the show, 2. I also don't believe she stopped reading our forum ( ) and 3. Is this going to be her thing every season, pick the one person she feels is being given an "unfair edit" and blindly defend them?    Get a new hobby girl.  

I've actually noticed far less frankenbyting this season because they kept a lot of long, unedited conversations to pad out the time.  All they probably did was hide Bella's bitchiness in earlier episodes when they wanted viewers to like her, while now it suits their purposes to let her true colours shine through, IMO.

I’ve just caved and binged it over past few days after saying I was done with the show. Funny too because Angie’s Lead had me ditching it, but then remembering Sophie’s lead had me rewatching (recently saw Sophie on the masked singer, brilliant ... her talent, humour and warmth).

Anyway…… looks like I’m the black sheep of the family, and going against general opinion, but here goes……..

I think tptb did quite an amazing job keeping production going, good work given the circumstances.

I’m totally surprized how much I like what I see in Locky! I so wasn’t expecting it. Before watching, I hadn’t seen much past ‘another... reality tv persona...’ but after watching, I’m totally seeing why he did Survivor and I don't see him in it for IG inluencer sales (which seems to be most reality tv cast's direction now). He’s wearing his passion for adventure/adrenaline junkie and travel beautifully imo. He seems like he's trying to keep it real too imo (well real for UN- reality tv anyway).  I like how out of his comfort zone he was in the first few episodes, sssso “100 percent” nervous as he kept saying. And I really like how he seems to be getting to know them and has shown he values some of the things I value.  A few examples………. the happy way he reacted to Rosemary in the penguin suit and found her to talk to first at the cocktail party (sure we all knew she wouldn’t be the one, too young etc, but he raised her up which was sweet and then he sent her home early too), and picking Nicole for the Triple Threat Rose because he wanted to be ‘around someone with that energy … someone who made people happy & smile’. Last nights episode with him greeting Izzy was gorgeous too (natural, friendly and fun). You can see there isn’t the romance there imo, but I reckon it showed he genuinely knows and likes her (cute and fun banter when he said ‘get her puffer’ when she couldn’t open the door too).  

Its strange but I find Locky comes across a little like Sam Wood did, so weird cos they’re absolutely different personalities and backgrounds etc (and I doubt we’ll ever see another romance and powerhouse couple like Sam and Snez ). But I think its maybe because Locky has that all grown up and life experienced vibe like Sam had, and self-confident in knowing who he is and what he wants.  I have no problem believing he would settle with someone who is the ‘full package’ for him. I also feel like he wouldn't be derailed or distracted on the show by the fake or fame wannabes, or the ‘lower head’ game play. It’s a puzzle how the man didn’t walk out with all those # Cry Fest cocktail parties imo (or # Just Add Alcohol or # Gas lighting), or maybe that’s why we didn’t see much of him in those episodes haha.

All jmo and me seeing Locky as a likeable and friendly dude from what I’ve seen on screen so far. I know irl there’s the media etc with ex gfs etc showing a picture of him being a player etc, but I’m not buying it as fact atm, it could just be buz and exaggerated bs. So I’m hoping for Irena that I’m right and he’s the real deal bach (probably wanting some exposure but also wanting a love match).

Locky and Irena………I absolutely see Locky and Irena’s chemistry and connection.

All the clues are there and last episode sealed it imo (can pick it even with sportbet wrecking it )...
- back to the mansion from lockdown…. Watching him greet them all and seeing Irena was the only one who got the big passionate kiss and look in the eyes imo. Yeh sure Bella did the big run into his arms and they hugged for ages but I actually think it was Bella who asked for a kiss haha, and we all know that the leads have to pretend and kiss.
- Episode before lockdown when he was saying goodbye…. he said he would miss Irena’s kisses. I can’t remember what he said about the others but that comment totally stood out.
- The fencing date… I’ve read heaps of comments saying ‘boring’, ‘no connection’, but oddly I saw banter and a connection (almost a irl moment where they looked so comfortable together and forgot the cameras were there, very rare for bach haha).
- At the end of the zoom date episode, Locky asked to speak to Irena (but viewers not shown convo)
- Locky describes Irena as ‘comfortable’, ‘safe’, ‘trustworthy’, and says he has ‘major chemistry’ with her… big words.

Anyway, I have both hands up for loving what Irena presents (and my fingers are hard crossed hoping she doesn’t get burnt). She’s a catch imo…….. a naturally beautiful looking lady, with depth and intelligence, and a solid career. I see no butts, fake or maxing out on sales in her IG…  just dogs, nature, outdoor, adventure, travel and real-world passions and keeping it authentic imo.  The big thing I love the most about her on the bach is how she’s shown kindness and fairness (and she doesn’t need to wear a f...ing ‘kindness is cool’ t-shirt to sell , sorry couldn’t resist). The way she hugged, reassured and built Bella up in that episode when Bella cried because Locky had connections with others and Bella saying she felt she was never good enough (geez had me wanting to hug Bella too, altho her comment that her and Irena were 'alike except Irena was an older version' gave a slight hint about Bella... as if ). I can totally believe the shock on Irena’s face (and madness on Roxi’s face ) when Bella did the sneaky kiss at the cocktail party too, possibly the moment Bella’s princess Tiara fell off haha……..

butterflylove wrote:The mansion was definitely not Roxi's environment, but I was really siding with her in the end.



Aaand tonight's stats. Bec serving up a big following again tonight, Irena had a massive night over Bella.. and a little suspiciously, Nicole gained over 300 followers in the span of an 70 minutes when she's eliminated.


Overall follower increase - Bec is making waves with over 5k followers in the span of 25 hours.

awesome job with table stats

Yeah the stats have been great @butterflylove.     

I note Bella gained another 1.7K followers since the last episode.  How?  I can't see her popularity increasing after that performance, and the general public seem to be turning against her.  Bella's numbers are still very suspicious to me.  



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