Bachelor 25 - Matt James - Media SM - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Jaybird wrote:@gabriele that was funny and a quick read, thanks for posting. The comparison of a guy prepping for a date to wearing flip flops was

Glad you got a chuckle out of it. I’ve always thought Kenny is good looking but I refuse to look at his nude pics.

@gabriele Fun read. I actually liked Kenny on the show but didn't know about his modeling. But at least he owns it, rather than try to hide it.

I can’t seem to get IG posts to show up but Rachael has a video out and is posting a bunch of anti racism resources right now including ones that specifically address the things she did.

https://instagram.com/rachaelkirkconnell?igshid=111h51s5nyynz

Eta: bluwavz posted the video in her contestant thread

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NO GOING BACH Bachelor host Chris Harrison ‘WON’T return to on-camera role’ as execs ‘hire more diverse staffers’ after racism scandal
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14168194/bachelor-host-chris-harrison-wont-return-diverse-racism-rachel/

@Norcalgal I actually liked him on the show and just going by his Instagram, his post show stuff as well...I also did not visit the nude photos, but hey, no judgement to anyone.   He appears to be close with his folks, has a real-ish job and seems like a no BS kind of guy.  I follow him and Becca who seem somewhat flirty with each other.  She could (and has) done a lot worse.

@bluwavz I hope this is true.  It's kind of amazing how The Sun has become the source of all things CH and the scandal.

bluwavz wrote:NO GOING BACH Bachelor host Chris Harrison ‘WON’T return to on-camera role’ as execs ‘hire more diverse staffers’ after racism scandal
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14168194/bachelor-host-chris-harrison-wont-return-diverse-racism-rachel/

One word Good, let's hope they continue to walk the walk.

pavalygurl wrote:@bluwavz I hope this is true.  It's kind of amazing how The Sun has become the source of all things CH and the scandal.

A UK slag rag (tabloid) used to be famous for their Page 3 pictures of semi nude women! They've had their fair share of scandals.

gurlbrit wrote:

bluwavz wrote:NO GOING BACH Bachelor host Chris Harrison ‘WON’T return to on-camera role’ as execs ‘hire more diverse staffers’ after racism scandal
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14168194/bachelor-host-chris-harrison-wont-return-diverse-racism-rachel/

One word Good, let's hope they continue to walk the walk.

I am sorry to hear this. I think Chris H's shoes will be hard to fill - just as far as the show goes. It is too bad that a solution couldn't have been found... - just imo.

I am sorry to hear this as well @CHO. I think it's just sad that there is no forgiveness anymore. Regardless of whether CH was right or wrong, (I'm not even trying to get into that) he felt he made a mistake, apologized publically for it and those he may have hurt and promised to do better. And it doesn't matter, no forgiveness, and to me, it's just sad. No one is perfect.

alwayscooking wrote:I am sorry to hear this as well @CHO.  I think it's just sad that there is no forgiveness anymore.  Regardless of whether CH was right or wrong, (I'm not even trying to get into that) he felt he made a mistake, apologized publically for it and those he may have hurt and promised to do better.  And it doesn't matter, no forgiveness, and to me, it's just sad.  No one is perfect.

It is unfortunate that this has blown up the way it has. However, I don't see it as an issue of unforgiveness. This is a franchise which means it's a business. If a person in finance screws up a multi-million dollar deal, you can be sure there will be some re-evaluations of that persons position and future within the company. He had one job in that moment, and that was to be the spokesperson for the franchise. He screwed up, he lost the job. Just because you like a person doesn't absolve them from the consequences of their actions.

Rachel Lindsay had to deactivate her Instagram account early this morning because of all the racist hate she’s gotten. She’s spoken recently on her Higher Learning podcast about how tired & drained she is from this whole ordeal. She’s mentioned that people have been contacting Extra trying to get her fired. The right wing media have picked this story up & used Rachel as the poster child for “cancel culture” (even though she’s spoken multiple times that she’s against cancel culture) which has directed even more racist nut jobs to send hateful things to her. She posted some IG stories the other day about what a hard day she was having.

Josiah from Rachel’s season posted a letter that was sent to his law firm after he spoke about racism within the franchise. The letter was advocating for him to be fired from his job and referred to Josiah as a “slave”.

That’s where my sympathy lies. In all the apologies from Hannah Brown, & Rachael Kirkconnell, & Chris Harrison, not once have they asked their racist supporters to stop sending Rachel Lindsay and the other black people in the franchise racist messages. Not once have they stood up for them and stood with them. Because those apologies are nothing but PR moves imo.