Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Media SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

@cheriee brings up a really good point that Madi likely leaves at LCD rather than FRC. Honestly I don’t think much of RS’s spoiler is true at all. He previously said whatever goes down at the FRC with CH’s news has nothing to do with Madi. RS knows nothing imo.

How did RS do on spoiling Colton’s season?

@gabriele he spoiled Coltons season correctly

MadiPrewfan wrote:@gabriele he spoiled Coltons season correctly

Thanks. That’s interesting. I know his track record has always been much better on spoiling the Bachelor. This season just reminds me a lot of Des’ though. And Colton’s and Tyler C.

I was pretty much expecting that after he came out with his spoiler he’d then change it. As Bobette said too much of his info came from here or doesn’t even make sense. jmo

gabriele wrote:@cheriee brings up a really good point that Madi likely leaves at LCD rather than FRC. Honestly I don’t think much of RS’s spoiler is true at all. He previously said whatever goes down at the FRC with CH’s news has nothing to do with Madi. RS knows nothing imo.

How did RS do on spoiling Colton’s season?

I honestly think that Madi was having major doubts later on during the day portion of the LCD. After their helicopter ride, it looks like they have the talk in the middle of nowhere and they both look stressed. She might have even told Peter that she needed to think and opted out of the evening portion of the date.  IMO that is why there are no scenes of that and the scenes of Peter looking lost and forlorn at that spot.  But I also think he quite possibly thought and hoped that she would show up the next day just like she did at the F3RC.

When she actually left is left to be determined.  For all we know, she might have still been in Australia, just not in the Alice Springs area.

As for RS, I don't know that he has ever been 100% right because there are small details that he will get wrong.  But in the scheme of things on the seasons that he has spoiled correctly, he has had the major things correct.  I think this is a case of the small details being wrong, such as the timing of when things actually happened.  And those details of when things happened are what has tripped him up this season. Part of RS's problem is that he depends on his sources too much and doesn't always research other things on his own.  IMO he isn't that great at fitting the pieces of the puzzle together.

I enjoy doing puzzles and trying to figure things out (why I'm here!) but even this has confused me.  My original theory is not right although I was on the right track.  It is the small details that tripped me up just like RS.

IMO

^^^RS has had major screwups in spoiling the bachelorette. He starts out saying one person is F1 and then completely switches it to the other F2.

HavaDrPepper wrote:

gabriele wrote:@cheriee brings up a really good point that Madi likely leaves at LCD rather than FRC. Honestly I don’t think much of RS’s spoiler is true at all. He previously said whatever goes down at the FRC with CH’s news has nothing to do with Madi. RS knows nothing imo.

How did RS do on spoiling Colton’s season?

I honestly think that Madi was having major doubts later on during the day portion of the LCD. After their helicopter ride, it looks like they have the talk in the middle of nowhere and they both look stressed. She might have even told Peter that she needed to think and opted out of the evening portion of the date.  IMO that is why there are no scenes of that and the scenes of Peter looking lost and forlorn at that spot.  But I also think he quite possibly thought and hoped that she would show up the next day just like she did at the F3RC.

IMO

This is interesting @HavaDrPepper and makes sense too. From everything that's been shown in the teaser it's clear Madi leaves the day portion of their date. I tend to think she is saying to him that she's leaving during that conversation after the helicopter ride. And afterwards that's why we have the footage of him wandering in the desert upset. But as you said, maybe he still thought she could show up the next day. There's an interview I remember where IMO Peter talks about this date. He says he experiences one of the most beautiful things he's ever seen in his life (I believe this is seeing Uluru) but that also something not so great happens later in the date. IMO this is the date, and it's where Madi says she's going to leave.

gabriele wrote:^^^RS has had major screwups in spoiling the bachelorette. He starts out saying one person is F1 and then completely switches it to the other F2.

Yup that's correct.. The day Kaitlyn's season aired he said that she was single and didn't even change his mind until she spoiled it. Also that Rachel got engaged to Peter then changed it to Bryan the day her season aired. So when it comes to this spoiler, I'm believing that Peter goes after Madison but not sure about her actually leaving to go back home and what he does with saying goodbye to Hannah Ann. Sure hope he didn't keep her around as a back-up plan.

I don't think she says she's leaving, but she won't accept a proposal, because she knows it's fake. To Madi, a proposal means something. Not like this show views it. IMO.

atem wrote:I don't think she says she's leaving, but she won't accept a proposal, because she knows it's fake.  To Madi, a proposal means something.  Not like this show views it. IMO.

Madi has certainly presented herself as someone who takes engagement and marriage seriously, so I'd be very surprised if she was down with the idea of an ATFR engagement. If she does a TV engagement then I become more skeptical of her and her motives and if she says yes only because she feels she can't say no on tv (one reason I hate tv proposals) then it won't last imo.

leavers wrote:

atem wrote:I don't think she says she's leaving, but she won't accept a proposal, because she knows it's fake.  To Madi, a proposal means something.  Not like this show views it. IMO.

Madi has certainly presented herself as someone who takes engagement and marriage seriously, so I'd be very surprised if she was down with the idea of an ATFR engagement. If she does a TV engagement then I become more skeptical of her and her motives and if she says yes only because she feels she can't say no on tv (one reason I hate tv proposals) then it won't last imo.

Or maybe, she says that she thinks HS is the better fit for him and 'self eliminates'.

I think rs is right and when he released the spoilers tptb panicked and put out other info to him so he doubts what he was told jmo

timfan wrote:I think rs is right and when he released the spoilers tptb panicked and put out other info to him  so he doubts what he was told jmo

I don't doubt this for a second and yet why didn't he say anything about whatever's happened in the Agoura Hills airbnb? I think what he's said is right but he's also missing some puzzle pieces.