Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Feb 17th - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

allykat wrote:I just don't get what Peter and Maddie are playing at. I'm not mad at either, and I agree with @Tiggerlgh that they both hold some blame. But I also think they are both ridiculous...credit to the bachelor bubble.

Aside from their shared affinity for rubbing noses while kissing, what exactly have they been shown to share in terms of values and wants out of life?

She literally just said to him that she wants a man to be the spiritual leader of their family with a strong relationship with the lord. And he responded that his faith isn't as strong as that. Also, he had sex with the last lead 4 times in a windmill and it's a running punchline. The upcoming virginity scandal is just the icing to keep up the drama through the end of the season...

Her and Luke P sound like a match made in heaven

Editing at it again with the switch up of the order they show the HTD's.

Gotta have the drama as the last date even though it was filmed second. And, since Kelsey's date probably ended up being drama free, they are showing hers earlier.

Nothing like going from the virgin to the homewrecker... both in real time when filming and in the airing of the episode.

I feel like I’ve said this numerous times and nobody has agreed but IMO Madi’s storyline is about bridging any hard feelings with viewers sympathetic to Luke P. He was a terrible messenger for his message, but his message resonates with a lot of viewers of the Bachelor franchise. Madi is a much better communicator of the message. IMO she will come out the fan favorite and winner of this season. All IMO.

mbl wrote:I feel like I’ve said this numerous times and nobody has agreed but IMO Madi’s storyline is about bridging any hard feelings with viewers sympathetic to Luke P.  He was a terrible messenger for his message, but his message resonates with a lot of viewers of the Bachelor franchise. Madi is a much better communicator of the message. IMO she will come out the fan favorite and winner of this season.  All IMO.  

She was barely shown.  Had she not been in the F2 it would be Maddie who.  All I know is she is a virgin who played b-ball in high school and says like every other word. IMO

She seems ok but I don’t know anything about her

JMO
I think there is a balance in Peter and Kelsey’s relationship that is missing in the others. Over the course of filming, she has shown personal growth and IMO Peter is the main reason. He didn’t judge her for her hot mess self and that gave her strength. He told her it was unacceptable to him that she name called over champagne gate and she processed that and not only stopped but took it a step further and formed a bond with Hannah Ann. Proactive rather than defensive. She continually shows a growing trust in Peter, as well as a respect for his POV, by choosing him as a confidant to which he always seamlessly supports her. They easily communicate with mutual understanding.  In reverse, I think he is at ease with her because she gives him confidence. I see a friendship aspect between them that isn’t there as strongly with the other final 3 ...and some romance with Kelsey but slower to grow.

I do see more obvious sexual chemistry with the other 3 which is a shame as IMO Kelsey and Peter’s relationship has a lot of solid qualities. He appears to sincerely care for her but isn’t smitten.

@notarose Great points I think. It is especially contrasting with the lack of true conversations between Vic / Peter, which focuses mostly on the physical and drama aspect, and Hannah Ann, which even if I have not seen her solo date, but so far seems very bland and generic, not much personal conversations. We’ve seen little tidbits of Madison and Peter that at least convey a real easygoing connection and honesty.
Maybe Kelsey is edited this way to give her a chance for the Bachelorette gig as well.
JMHOAA

I think Kelsey is for sure getting the Bachelorette edit.

The Bachelor hometown dates preview: A mystery woman comes for Victoria https://t.co/RBGFVWfAd4

— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) February 12, 2020

https://twitter.com/EW/status/1227717705614217218?s=20

bluwavz wrote:

The Bachelor hometown dates preview: A mystery woman comes for Victoria https://t.co/RBGFVWfAd4

— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) February 12, 2020

https://twitter.com/EW/status/1227717705614217218?s=20

Back to the Victoria show.

bluwavz wrote:

The Bachelor hometown dates preview: A mystery woman comes for Victoria https://t.co/RBGFVWfAd4

— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) February 12, 2020

https://twitter.com/EW/status/1227717705614217218?s=20

And look at THAT face... if it’s not a perfect example of expression of shame, guilt and cowardice, I’m not sure what is. Biting her lips, looking down in shame, avoiding straight eye contact ...it’s all in one shot! JMO

Typical reaction of a manipulator. It's so annoying when you can see right through someone. When she said it doesn't matter anymore, he should have said, ok see ya.

IMO TPTB knew everything about her right from the concert date to the potential result in the FS. They probably promised her the ette and that's why she's typical F3.

OMG-what is wrong with Victoria!? She was rude to him last episode but this is inexcusable. Why didn't he send her home right then and slam the door behind her?