: Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - What Happened at the FRC? - NO Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Tiggerlgh wrote:Ok I think the rolling on the bed may be Madison. I think she gives him an ultimatum at the F3 RC and it comes out he slept with VF. “I was intimate with someone 6 days ago”.  

The F3 RC is where we see Peter teary and Madi and HA crying. Then the next week is full OF Madi doubting him. Madi then leaves prior to the FRC and Peter runs after her and they are now dating.

Then it’s either VF or HA at the goldcoast casino and tbd on the 3rd location.

If true, I disagree with her giving an ultimatum. It’s the show she signed up for and she knew he wasn’t a virgin.

HavaDrPepper wrote:

HavaDrPepper wrote:My thoughts:

Chris' conversation happens before Peter even sees either girl.  Chris tells him that Madison has chosen to leave. Peter still has the opportunity to propose to Hannah Ann. But, I see him not proposing to her and leaving alone thus the crying on the bed scene we see.

At first I thought he might have seen his parents in Australia since the FRC was probably just a day or 2 after LCD but with the heavier shirt someone noted, he might have told them when he got home to LA. And, that is when his mom said to "go get her".

So I think he has approached Madison with a proposal to "date" and they can decide whether to go forward with a relationship at the ATFR.

The "never happened before" would be Madison leaving without seeing Peter before the FRC.

JMHO

I'm going to update my theory somewhat now that we are farther into the season and more screen caps are available.

I still think Chris' conversation happens before Peter sees anyone at the FRC. I still think the conversation is about Madison leaving maybe the fact that she is already on her way home so not available for him to even talk to her. I also still think Peter then has to make the decision whether to propose to Hannah Ann and with the weather being so hot there during that time, he goes inside to think it over and this is the bed scene.  Chris' jacket is seen on the edge of the bed and in previews of him and Peter walking towards the FRC location where production people are seen, Chris is carrying his jacket so I think this is after the bed scene.  To me this says, there is still one girl there for Peter to either break up with or propose to and I think that girl is Hannah Ann. It seems to me that Chris is hinting to Peter that he can still have an engagement with Hannah Ann there (and IMO that is what Chris wants him to do). I believe he decides to break up with her since his heart is with Madison. 

As for the scene with his mother, I think that the MTP dates were filmed with Hannah Ann first then Madison. The lead normally talks with their parents following the second MTP. Peter may have told them about Madison's doubts and that is when his mother begs him to not let her go.

I am thinking that Madison does stick around for the LCD which following previous seasons would be last since the MTP was last.  Since we have not seen scenes on the tv previews of these dates I wonder if the plaid shirt in the desert crying scene takes place after his date with Madison where she has expressed doubts and he is still unsure as to how she feels about him.  I am also thinking she asks to leave after this date since she cannot accept the proposal after what went down during FSD week (since they supposedly cannot refuse a proposal per contract at the FRC).

I also think that Peter goes to Madison back in the USA and asks for her to consider just dating him instead of the engagement. Chances are she would have gone back through LAX and if Peter requested it, maybe TPTB had her stick around until he arrived back if she had left the day before.  They could easily use the excuse of filming some ITM's or voice overs before heading back to Auburn.  Peter has stated in the BUILD interview that filming ended on Nov 20 (Wed) but the FRC in Australia was on Sat Nov 17 (USA Nov 16).

In no way do I see him choosing to date Hannah Ann and break up with her to go back to Madison.  I don't think there are all kinds of twists and turns to get there. I think it is cut and dried. Madison is his choice and he chooses to go after her and ask her to date him after he breaks up with Hannah Ann at the FRC.

Again, the never before is Madison leaving without seeing Peter before she leaves.  All other contestants that have chosen to leave either ask the lead to not give them a rose or tell the lead during a date that they cannot continue on.  Madison leaving without seeing Peter would be a first.

IMO

Chgohighlife wrote:IMO, the “I’m so sorry” speech is because he had sex with HA, convinced her he was falling in love with her and then totally flipped out when he thought Madi wasn’t coming to the F3 RC or, when he could not propose. I know Peter is a bit of an idiot but, I’m really hoping he did NOT propose to HA knowing full well he wants Madi whether she still wants him or not.

Jolena wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:IMO, the “I’m so sorry” speech is because he had sex with HA, convinced her he was falling in love with her and then totally flipped out when he thought Madi wasn’t coming to the F3 RC or, when he could not propose. I know Peter is a bit of an idiot but, I’m really hoping he did NOT propose to HA knowing full well he wants Madi whether she still wants him or not.

But that SC was taken at a house that the sleuthers found to be an air b &b in California not in Australia. So im not understanding what "Im sorry" your referring to.