Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Jan 6th - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

@GuardianAngel I hear ya and what everyone is saying. And...this explains a lot to me about how Hannah was so upset during that time in September. IMO, She did NOT want to be there. But as a people pleaser, she tried. Not successfully, but my anger is squarely on TPTB. I'm glad she had several months with Alan who showed her that not all guys are azzes and gave her the ability to trust again. IIRC, it was right after this time that her parents came and began spending more time in LA supporting her. IMO Hannah is young, fragile and trying to grow. I'll continue to support that.

Summerfun1980 wrote:@Sprite I also felt he was trying too hard. Maybe he calms down and we see more natural spark. IA I saw it with Kelley and a little with Victoria. He and Hannah Ann were both trying to hard so I didn’t feel anything there. All JMO I wonder if we’ll get a true she’s “the one” moment i.e. Becca and Garett and the van, Bryan and the watch, I think Hannah Sluss and Jed and Colton and Cassie had more than one IMO

                This is my opinion also. In fact I had to turn it off when Hannah Sluss kept going back, interupting, kissing him. That type of drama driven- overpowering girl is  not someone this mom would want for my son. Peter seemed overwhelmed- driven by his senses. I sure hope this producer driven drama is not all there is this season. IMO

"I think Chris Harrison comes in right before Peter planned to give out his final rose and tells Peter, “We all just found out Hannah won Dancing with the Stars but she said it didn’t feel right not to have you there celebrating with her.” This throws Peter into a tizzy and he tells his “final” girl that he needs to date Hannah IRL or he’ll always wonder “what if.” Of course, this “final” girl will have a lot of emotions to unpack after hearing this and everyone just needs time… Of course, this is all a theory!"

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According to RS and SM postings the final rose ceremony was on November 17th. Hannah won DWTS on November 25th. No truth to Ashley's "theory" JMO

@jen689 nice job!

jen689 wrote:"I think Chris Harrison comes in right before Peter planned to give out his final rose and tells Peter, “We all just found out Hannah won Dancing with the Stars but she said it didn’t feel right not to have you there celebrating with her.” This throws Peter into a tizzy and he tells his “final” girl that he needs to date Hannah IRL or he’ll always wonder “what if.” Of course, this “final” girl will have a lot of emotions to unpack after hearing this and everyone just needs time… Of course, this is all a theory!"

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According to RS and SM postings the final rose ceremony was on November 17th. Hannah won DWTS on November 25th. No truth to Ashley's "theory" JMO

The bolded text shows why I question Ashley I's every statement. To me, she comes across as a media hound who is more interested in seeing her name out there rather than presenting facts.

https://youtu.be/S_wJHb2aET8

bluwavz wrote:

https://youtu.be/szQbNO7zbVE

Maurissa wasn't wrong apparently. Peter admits on the Daily Pop he kissed 12 women on the first night. And the show only showed four. Just from other screencaps that didn't air I am pretty sure Lexi, Kelley and Victoria P are on that list. Here is the video of him on the Daily Pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRhseSMiPV4&t=28s

Madison is definitely my early fave after last night!!

Madison FTW. If Peter didn't pick her, then make her the Bachelorette! All that Peter/Hannah talk was def. producer driven and felt bad for Hannah with what else she was going through. Lots of mean girls already. Hopefully next episode is better.

just me wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:@Sprite I also felt he was trying too hard. Maybe he calms down and we see more natural spark. IA I saw it with Kelley and a little with Victoria. He and Hannah Ann were both trying to hard so I didn’t feel anything there. All JMO I wonder if we’ll get a true she’s “the one” moment i.e. Becca and Garett and the van, Bryan and the watch, I think Hannah Sluss and Jed and Colton and Cassie had more than one IMO

                This is my opinion also. In fact I had to turn it off when Hannah Sluss kept going back, interupting, kissing him. That type of drama driven- overpowering girl is  not someone this mom would want for my son. Peter seemed overwhelmed- driven by his senses. I sure hope this producer driven drama is not all there is this season. IMO

This takes a lot off responsibility of peter. Peter is a very sexual person and has said he loved hannahs forward ness. He was also sexually aggressive last season. I remember Colton talking about being uncomfortable with the over the top pda. Peter could but his foot down but doesn’t because he loves it. He’s a 27 year old man to Hannah’s 23 . All JMO

bluwavz wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7AiMp8F5bZ/

Why is Madison looking so shrunken here? I am enjoying all of the comments here. Have seen enough of Hannah Brown, wish her the best, and please move on. I liked Madison last night, think Victoria f is a master manipulator, Hannah Ann is so fake, liked the nurse. Don't like Kelly- not sure what it is. Maybe the cheating and not caring about it.

Okay I finally got thru the first episode. I get Hannah was probably contractual obligated to do so many appearances on the show but I am always of the belief if you don't give these producers the ammo they can't make you look  a certain way on film. I don't really think that talk between her and Peter was that bad. That "maybe" was clearly edited and you could tell by her reaction to Peter's question that's not at all what she said. I think if she was smart and learned from all these reality show experiences she would of done that intro and tried to get out of there as quick as she could especially if she was going thru something. But she didn't so we have this big debate over it. I thought she was just emotionally and probably feeling a lot of things and I am pretty sure not all of that was about Peter. But she got emotional on camera letting this show get Peter and her have that talk. Her emotional state lead to Peter wanting to ask questions that he had and probably questions she wasn't ready for. I am more bothered that Hannah let these producers use her the way they have. Rumor was she put her foot down with some of the DWTS producer so why couldn't she here with these people. If she felt uncomfortable that first night why wouldn't she have a back up plan in place to be able to get out of there with the second appearance. Again I wasn't that bothered by the convo because the most controversial part of it to me was clearly edited.

I must say the shows focus last night on growing up with married parents bugged me. Maybe because I come for a divorced home but to hear so much how people that grew up with married parents a more better at marriage kind of offended me. Like that's really now a personality trait or something. Peter had that same convo with both Hannah Ann and Madison. I just don't get the focus on that when they actually have other stuff they cut out that would actually let us learn more about these people.

As for the women this season I honestly saw the most spark with Kelley as well. Wonder when that spark dies down because its pretty strong that first week. I like Madison but she just seems so young to me. There is a fakeness to Hannah Ann but I think comparing her to Luke P is a little much. Also I don't get them. Even Rachel said it on her podcast. Luke wasn't even that bad the first night. So I hope those stop. Boy Victoria F is dramatic and I get why the producers kept her even with her past even if Peter didn't connect with her.  They do seem to have a natural chemistry when they did talk but will have to see more if there is really anything there. I didn't really expect to like her but I really like Victoria P so far as well as Tammy. I can tell Natasha and Mykenna are going to get on my last nerves.

Not really liking Peter not being mindful of where he is and just making out right in front of the other women. I just haven't changed my opinion on him yet. He seems like a good guy but I don't really think he is ready to get married and seems to fall in and out of love at the drop of a hat. We will see if my opinion changes. All in all a okay premiere. All jmo.