Bachelorette New Zealand - Season 1 - Dr Lesina Nakhid-Schuster - Lily McManus - Media SM - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers *

AllAboutLove wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:This is disgusting.
A man’s head being turned and away from the WOC (do I even have to say doctor WOC).
Shame on TPTB and Bette NZ for posting this !  
Absolutely appalling the message being sent.  Makes me cry. The WOC who experience this daily and now it’s some disgusting twisted joke supposedly for entertainment.


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So Lily liked the above comment (posted under the appalling meme post which Lily liked as well) about how she herself would make a meme like this.

In response to the comment Lily liked. yes, I am sensitive to images that perpetuate that WOC as less than. Yes I am sensitive to images that use WOC as a joke. Yes I am sensitive to seeing memes that are selling the idea that WOC are not as worthy to look upon. Yes I am sensitive to racial and micro-aggressive tones. Yes I am sensitive to caring more about true feminism and equality that uplifts women especially women of color and doesn’t see using them as a meme as funny (which is toxic and privileged and the reason it’s not funny is because it’s punching down towards a racially marginalized group). And I am glad that I am sensitive to this. I am glad that I care about the images that are being shown to young women of color matter and that they matter and shouldn’t feel made to feel less than or that they’re a meme or a joke. Being sensitive to how media and images are used to promote and perpetuate how young women of color see themselves matters. So for that I am glad I am sensitive.

Lily could learn a thing or two about using her privilege for something better than liking a post that disregards a WOC and makes the emphasis on herself as “better” than. I am highly disappointed in Lily. There’s no excuse for liking that comment and thus implying she herself agrees she’d make a meme like this and people are too sensitive. The privilege and audacity to even think this way. Blows my mind. So much for “girl power” and whatever else she’s trying to sell. It’s horrible. Jmo

We both worried we'd choose the wrong person, bachelorettes Lily and Lesina reveal

Lily McManus joins Lesina Nakhid-Schuster on The Bachelorette NZ.

This story was originally published by Now to Love and is republished with permission.

They're the first to admit it. If they'd met "in real life" they wouldn't be friends. In fact, they wouldn't have even crossed paths - unless Lily had broken her leg in a snowboarding or dirtbiking accident and gone to hospital and Lesina had been her doctor.

Yet now these unlikely soul sisters – 22 year old free-spirited Lily McManus and 32-year-old intellect Lesina Nakhid-Schuster - are forever bound as New Zealand's first women to star in The Bachelorette NZ.

For the first three episodes of the reality TV dating show Lesina held centre stage - and viewers couldn't understand why so many of her love interests were 10 years younger than her.

Then out onto the mansion verandah stepped Lily and everything fell into place.

Was it difficult for you, I ask Lesina, to have to share your pedestal with another woman?

"When I was first told about the idea, that was when I was most unnerved by it," she admits.

"I had a million questions and I was thinking - because you instantly think 'competition', don't you – 'I don't want to do it'.

"But by the time Lily came I was comfortable. I was interested to see how the dynamics would change."

And change they did, with the men immediately regrouping themselves into Team Lily, Team Lesina or Team 50/50.

All of the men behaved "exactly as I'd thought they would", Lesina says.

"But I was comfortable with the ones I had connections with and they acted exactly how I thought they would, too."

Aaron's reaction was the most interesting, Lily reveals.

"I looked at him and thought 'you're a taken man'.

Sparks flew for Lesina and Aaron on their one-on-one date.

"When I sat down with all the boys on the first night and everyone was really giving me the time of day and being quite 'hey how're you doing' Aaron was just…" (Lily puts her nose in the air and looks the other way.)

"He wouldn't even make eye contact with me.

"I thought, 'oh my god, this guy is obsessed with you [she looks to Lesina] already' and I was like, 'Bro, no offence. I'm not interested in you… but that doesn't mean we can't be friends."'

Afterwards the girls swapped notes and decided Aaron had been rude.

He apologised to Lily and it was important that he did, Lesina explains, "because she's my girl".

"You wouldn't like your partner to not get on with your friends, would you."

Lesina and Lily discussing who they will keep on the scene.

FIRM FRIENDS

The two women are undeniably close and say they quickly learned they could rely on one another to compare notes and get an accurate gauge on the guys.

"What surprised me about Lily was her emotional intelligence," Lesina says. "Every time I was thinking something Lily would be thinking it too.

"I secretly talked to my mum every day, but she wasn't 'in it' and so you'd have to start from the beginning and explain all the ins and outs… to just have someone who I could say 'oh my god, this happened' and she goes 'I know'…"

Lily adds, "Lesina has the same beliefs as I do and she has the same stance on female empowerment.

"It was cool to sit down and combine our powers and figure things out. We lucked out with how well we clicked."

Both say they were worried about "choosing the wrong person".

"We only saw them on their best behaviour," explains Lily. "And I was really worried about ending up with someone that was just putting it all on for show… then getting them in the real world and finding they're completely different.

"Right now watching it back there are some things I didn't know some of these boys were saying… and I think me and you [she looks at Lesina] are both going 'maybe we should have sent him home earlier'."

But both are happy with the decisions they made "using the limited amount of information we had available at the time".

Lesina and Lily have forged a strong friendship.

THE TRUTH ABOUT QUINN

They had talked about who Lesina was interested in before Lily joined the show, they reveal.

"So there were some I didn't even bother to get to know because I knew Lesina was interested in them," Lily says.

Viewers have been quick to note, though, that both women seemed to show an early interest in Quinn - with Lesina giving him her first rose and Lily, her first kiss.

But Lesina says while Quinn's "a nice guy, I didn't feel romantically towards him which is perhaps the way it came across.

"I gave him my first rose because he'd put in some real effort [into making Lesina a stainless steel rose for their introduction]."

One of the most interesting aspects of the show has been how differently the two women tackle getting to know the guys.

While Lesina goes in with a very direct line of questioning and became known on set by the production crew as The Question Assassin, Lily was happy to sit back and chat about cake with her fellas.

The rose ceremony is harder than it looks, they say.

"I probably would have relaxed more [if I had the chance to go back and do things differently]," Lesina admits.

"I did focus on the end quite a bit. I was looking for my forever person and that put a lot of pressure on me.

"But that is me. I do ask a lot of questions and I'm very attracted to someone who can handle my questions."

For Lily the casual banter was more about making the guys feel comfortable.

"At the beginning the boys were very nervous. I tried to make them feel comfortable; I tried to warm them up and talk a little bit of s... with them just to help them feel that this is real.

"Production was like 'Lily, you're not talking about relationship stuff, you're just talking garbage right now. But I like to remind them I'm a person and we're that we're trying to get to know each other."

While we won't know until in a few weeks' time whether Lily and Lesina have found what they were looking for, they're both happy to share that they believe reality TV dating shows work.

"The last relationship I had," Lily begins, "which was very serious was from the first season of The Bachelor Winter Games.

"After Zac's season of The Bachelor [Lily was runner-up in the third season of The Bachelor in New Zealand] I was left feeling really really skeptical and didn't know if this process could work.

"But Bachelor Winter Games came up and I thought, 'cool snowboarding, this is why I'm here'.

"Then I met Courtney [Dober] and I was like 'holy s... this is, like, legit'. We were together a pretty long time.

"He was the first love of my life," Lily shares. "But I don't think I could have done this show if I hadn't have done that one. That told me this is real, and the feelings involved are real even though there are cameras everywhere.

"You take out of it however much you put in, don't you," adds Lesina.

"You can always take a lesson; you can always take something positive. Even for people like Glenn, who it may look a bit negative for at the moment, I'm sure he'll learn something about himself.

"So, yes, definitely. It just takes one person that you're interested in that you find a connection with for it to work. And if you happen to find that on the show..."

On their last day in Argentina, the pair got matching tattoos which say "muchos novios" — which means "many boyfriends" in Spanish.

Jordan44 wrote:Home visits on next week, interesting seems early so not long in Argentina. Perhaps 4 for Lily and 4 for Lesina? IMO I don't think we'll see a FRC from Lily, I see her leaving single early too.

https://www.sky.co.nz/tvguide

The Bachelorette NZ (M)
Monday 17 February7:30 PM - 8:30 PMTV2Channel 002

Tonight, the couples meet friends and families on their home visits. Awkward questions are asked, secrets are revealed and one couple hits crisis point!

Bobette wrote:In his latest IG story Quinn seems pretty salty/embarrassed when Bette is brought up: https://www.instagram.com/stories/qryan46/



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I get the impression he's not entirely happy with how things panned out.  Wouldn't be surprised if Lily doesn't even have an FRC; I could see her giving both her final guys (Jesse and Quinn IMO) the kiss-off early, leaving Lesina and her F1 to wrap up the show.

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Aaron's reaction was the most interesting, Lily reveals.

"I looked at him and thought 'you're a taken man'.

Sparks flew for Lesina and Aaron on their one-on-one date.

"When I sat down with all the boys on the first night and everyone was really giving me the time of day and being quite 'hey how're you doing' Aaron was just…" (Lily puts her nose in the air and looks the other way.)

"He wouldn't even make eye contact with me.

"I thought, 'oh my god, this guy is obsessed with you [she looks to Lesina] already' and I was like, 'Bro, no offence. I'm not interested in you… but that doesn't mean we can't be friends."'

Afterwards the girls swapped notes and decided Aaron had been rude.

He apologised to Lily and it was important that he did, Lesina explains, "because she's my girl".

"You wouldn't like your partner to not get on with your friends, would you."

atem wrote:Sorry, but I think that is the ugliest tattoo.