Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #11

My latest opinion is Tyler is going for it ... putting 2+2 together it appears his recent connections are helping him reach for the gold. It sounds like his agent reassessed, hence the cancellation of his two LA gigs. I think Tyler is taking full advantage of his current situation. His modeling career may not last longterm, but he always has construction to fall back on, plus he has a decent education. I agree that this most likely ends any potential hope with Hannah - he’s going, or gone, in a different direction. That’s the way I’m seeing it. All my own opinions as always.

appiah01 wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:@Pichic121 I always thought is was likely pr.  Now, I'm firmly in the it's pr camp after hearing the news that his agency pulled his "small"' gigs that he just booked last week and is chasing brand campaigns for him.  I didn't think he took his modeling career seriously because...well...he's a good looking guy...but he's no model.  JMO  But seems that he's seriously going for it. And now I think he and Hannah are dead in the water, whether she realizes it or not, and she needs to cut ties if she hasn't already.

I agree. I believe Tyler when he said he was going to try and figure things out now- I don't think he was set on NYC [hence no actual apt.] and modeling but now with his link to Gigi and growing name recognition, modeling is more of a realistic possibility for him and that's what he's going for. And I think the Gigi thing is 100% PR [for her at least- for him it's a fun fling/story]. How many celebrity women do you know that randomly slide into the DMs of reality TV stars ...simply because the guy is good looking? It's pinging my very attuned BS meter. I just don't think Tyler is going to get into any relationships for awhile and that the Hannah ship has sailed.

BS meters never lie. Lol. In the words of my momma...”then somebody needs to either sh*t or get off the pot!” Either TC or HB need to say we’ve talked and this is going nowhere, IMO. I feel like that would put this whole roller coaster of press away. But I get why it’s not happening because it takes names out of the news and interest is lost. What a crazy, crazy world.

Emeralds wrote:

wxyz_abcd wrote:Hannah just added Happier by Marshmello, Bastille to her new vibe playlist.

If we use this as an indication I think she is letting go.

As she should. Always trust a man's actions over his words, especially since we [women] are very good at hearing what we want to hear & tuning out the rest.

Well said, and so true!

Actions speak louder than words ...

Pichic121 wrote:

appiah01 wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:@Pichic121 I always thought is was likely pr.  Now, I'm firmly in the it's pr camp after hearing the news that his agency pulled his "small"' gigs that he just booked last week and is chasing brand campaigns for him.  I didn't think he took his modeling career seriously because...well...he's a good looking guy...but he's no model.  JMO  But seems that he's seriously going for it. And now I think he and Hannah are dead in the water, whether she realizes it or not, and she needs to cut ties if she hasn't already.

I agree. I believe Tyler when he said he was going to try and figure things out now- I don't think he was set on NYC [hence no actual apt.] and modeling but now with his link to Gigi and growing name recognition, modeling is more of a realistic possibility for him and that's what he's going for. And I think the Gigi thing is 100% PR [for her at least- for him it's a fun fling/story]. How many celebrity women do you know that randomly slide into the DMs of reality TV stars ...simply because the guy is good looking? It's pinging my very attuned BS meter. I just don't think Tyler is going to get into any relationships for awhile and that the Hannah ship has sailed.

BS meters never lie. Lol. In the words of my momma...”then somebody needs to either sh*t or get off the pot!” Either TC or HB need to say we’ve talked and this is going nowhere, IMO.  I feel like that would put this whole roller coaster of press away. But I get why it’s not happening because it takes names out of the news and interest is lost.  What a crazy, crazy world.

If he's going full steam ahead with modeling like we think he is, he'll release a statement soon JMO.

Pichic121 wrote:

appiah01 wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:@Pichic121 I always thought is was likely pr.  Now, I'm firmly in the it's pr camp after hearing the news that his agency pulled his "small"' gigs that he just booked last week and is chasing brand campaigns for him.  I didn't think he took his modeling career seriously because...well...he's a good looking guy...but he's no model.  JMO  But seems that he's seriously going for it. And now I think he and Hannah are dead in the water, whether she realizes it or not, and she needs to cut ties if she hasn't already.

I agree. I believe Tyler when he said he was going to try and figure things out now- I don't think he was set on NYC [hence no actual apt.] and modeling but now with his link to Gigi and growing name recognition, modeling is more of a realistic possibility for him and that's what he's going for. And I think the Gigi thing is 100% PR [for her at least- for him it's a fun fling/story]. How many celebrity women do you know that randomly slide into the DMs of reality TV stars ...simply because the guy is good looking? It's pinging my very attuned BS meter. I just don't think Tyler is going to get into any relationships for awhile and that the Hannah ship has sailed.

BS meters never lie. Lol. In the words of my momma...”then somebody needs to either sh*t or get off the pot!” Either TC or HB need to say we’ve talked and this is going nowhere, IMO.  I feel like that would put this whole roller coaster of press away. But I get why it’s not happening because it takes names out of the news and interest is lost.  What a crazy, crazy world.

No clarity for us!

I don’t think that either HB or TC need to make any announcements. Hannah clearly said she still has some feelings, and Tyler’s actions and silence show he’s gone in a different direction - that pretty much summarizes the situation for me.  JMHO ...

Jojo had wise words for Hannah:

“I’m blown away that this is even happening,” Fletcher said. “Tyler is probably feeling real good right now. It’s a crazy situation. I feel sad that it didn’t work out for Hannah and Jed. I feel like maybe she’s a little hurt by the Gigi thing, but at the end of the day, he’s a single guys, she’s a single girl. Everybody’s single here. It is what it is.”
“The great thing about Hannah, and the one thing I really loved watching, is her growth as a woman and that confidence,” Fletcher said. “It’s been really cool to see her do that. I would just say, stay true to who you are. Don’t feel disrespected. If it’s not fulfilling you, find fulfillment somewhere else. Keep doing you.”

“She’s a single girl and she’s living her life,” Fletcher continued. “This is going to be the best time of her life. It didn’t work out, she accepted it. Just don’t get caught up this sort of — if you start to feel like you’re losing yourself, go home and ground yourself. That was a big thing for me. The way that that show takes you to another level is wild. I think we’re all super blessed and super thankful for that platform, but it’s really important to stay grounded and get back to your roots and stay true to who you are.”

https://people.com/tv/bachelorette-jojo-fletcher-blown-away-tyler-cameron-gigi-hadid/

Summerfun1980 wrote:Jojo had wise words for Hannah:

“I’m blown away that this is even happening,” Fletcher said. “Tyler is probably feeling real good right now. It’s a crazy situation. I feel sad that it didn’t work out for Hannah and Jed. I feel like maybe she’s a little hurt by the Gigi thing, but at the end of the day, he’s a single guys, she’s a single girl. Everybody’s single here. It is what it is.”
“The great thing about Hannah, and the one thing I really loved watching, is her growth as a woman and that confidence,” Fletcher said. “It’s been really cool to see her do that. I would just say, stay true to who you are. Don’t feel disrespected. If it’s not fulfilling you, find fulfillment somewhere else. Keep doing you.”

“She’s a single girl and she’s living her life,” Fletcher continued. “This is going to be the best time of her life. It didn’t work out, she accepted it. Just don’t get caught up this sort of —  if you start to feel like you’re losing yourself, go home and ground yourself. That was a big thing for me. The way that that show takes you to another level is wild. I think we’re all super blessed and super thankful for that platform, but it’s really important to stay grounded and get back to your roots and stay true to who you are.”

https://people.com/tv/bachelorette-jojo-fletcher-blown-away-tyler-cameron-gigi-hadid/

Awwww, that’s a really sweet post from JoJo, showing lots of wisdom.

North wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:@suzq Being linked to Gigi will help tremendously IMO Without her, he's just a d list reality star. JMO His agency seems to want brand campaigns for him, which he'll need a boost to get.  JMO

Obviously being linked to a supermodel can help his modeling career. But even with her help and a big name brand campaign, he'll be making a quarter of what female models make (or less) and still won't have the same prospects that women do. Women and women's fashion simply dominate in this profession. There is no VS Angel equivalent for male models. I couldn't name another male model - other than Tyler and Jordan Kimball (tee hee!) - that wasn't famous for something else -- an athlete, musician, etc...

So for the folks thinking that male modeling is going to make Tyler more famous -- I find that really hard to believe. He's famous, right now, because he was on The Bachelorette, period. It is what put him on the radar of the aforementioned supermodel and allows his agency to pitch him to bigger brands and campaigns. "The Bachelorette" is going to be attached to his name for quite some time -- whether he or his agency, like it or not. But dating a supermodel, on the other hand, can make him more famous and expose him to additional "fans."

I always wondered what he told Hannah's parents about his professional goals and aspirations -- b/c whatever it was they were sold. And not so sold on wannabe singer/songwriter Jed.

What about Ryan Cooper? Confess?

Emeralds wrote:I think Tyler is serious about modeling. It will be interesting to see what comes of it. I'm not overly optimistic he'll be wildly successful, but I wish him the very best of luck.

Tyler may be using GiGi to get his name out there or he may be just enjoying the attention of a supermodel like most young men would or maybe both. He's 26, newly famous, & single so why not?

The first thing I noticed on his IG were his model pics inserted here and in the middle of his activities. He chose the most edgy pic he did in NYC for his avatar. Those are very very Italian or French editorial... perfumes or underwear or watches... he is not handsome but very very photogenic imo.

I am not surprised he made his choice to gravitate in this famous models world. Whatever their relationship, they seem to like each other.

violetstoo wrote:

North wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:@suzq Being linked to Gigi will help tremendously IMO Without her, he's just a d list reality star. JMO His agency seems to want brand campaigns for him, which he'll need a boost to get.  JMO

Obviously being linked to a supermodel can help his modeling career. But even with her help and a big name brand campaign, he'll be making a quarter of what female models make (or less) and still won't have the same prospects that women do. Women and women's fashion simply dominate in this profession. There is no VS Angel equivalent for male models. I couldn't name another male model - other than Tyler and Jordan Kimball (tee hee!) - that wasn't famous for something else -- an athlete, musician, etc...

So for the folks thinking that male modeling is going to make Tyler more famous -- I find that really hard to believe. He's famous, right now, because he was on The Bachelorette, period. It is what put him on the radar of the aforementioned supermodel and allows his agency to pitch him to bigger brands and campaigns. "The Bachelorette" is going to be attached to his name for quite some time -- whether he or his agency, like it or not. But dating a supermodel, on the other hand, can make him more famous and expose him to additional "fans."

I always wondered what he told Hannah's parents about his professional goals and aspirations -- b/c whatever it was they were sold. And not so sold on wannabe singer/songwriter Jed.

What about Ryan Cooper? Confess?

No idea. Had to Google!

My point was that female models are on a different level of fame (outside their industry) than their male counterparts. People/US Weekly/Cosmo are NOT taking pictures of male models courtside at basketball games, chronicling their dating lives, or commenting on their casual fashion, or a fashion faux pas. Obviously, there are very successful and highly-regarded male models within the industry, they just aren't as famous to the general public as the females.

And since someone mentioned a possible Clavin Klein campaign -- thought I'd leave this right here:
https://www.boxmenswear.com/blogs/news/11-iconic-calvin-klein-male-underwear-models-with-pictures

The male "models" in these highly successful and memorable campaigns are from other professions. Being generous, one could throw Tyler in this mix. He does have a level of fame outside of professional modeling...even if it is from The Bachelorette.

The modeling industry has really changed over the last few years with so many celebrity kids leapfrogging over many working models.

wxyz_abcd wrote:Hannah just added Happier by Marshmello, Bastille to her new vibe playlist.

If we use this as an indication I think she is letting go.

Ps if you're a dog lover you prolly shouldn't watch the video of this song.