Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - July 29 & 30 - Finale - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Summerfun1980 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:I think Hannah and Tyler would be really compatible in real life if only because not once this season have I thought Tyler was under any illusions about who Hannah is. The things people have criticized her for this season are things that Tyler praises. I think people might be projecting their feelings about Hannah onto Tyler. Like even if they don't get back together I think he'll still defend her and her choices.

Tyler thinking he can handle it and him actually being able to are very different things. I'm just saying. It feels like another kaitlyn/shawn or andi/josh situation waiting to happen.  I'd rather he walk.  He's the only one that has anything to lose here. The man is sitting on 1.2 million followers.  Why deal with the drama that will come from being with Hannah? JMO

Let's see how Tyler handles things when he's sitting next to her in media rounds and they start talking to Hannah about Peter in the windmill 4 times?  Do you all see that ending well for him?  He'll then be considered a jerk for not being able to deal with it.  JMO

The difference is that Tyler's shown himself to be the opposite of those guys personality wise. The way he thinks about women, their sexuality, them speaking their mind. Comparing him to those guys is actually disrespectful to him. Also both those guys showed those tendencies on the show, Tyler hasn't. As for potential media and talking about the windmill, he was comfortable enough joking about it on IG. And yes I would think he's a jerk if he got back together with her only to hold the show over her head for any length of time because if they get back together, he'll be making a fully informed decision because this is all out there, and part of that choice is letting go of what happened on the show and the things she did before they were in a relationship.

Summerfun1980 wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:I still don't get why she sent Peter home. Was it because she didn't know his true feelings? If so, she knows them now. Maybe the loop de loop is her returning to F3. They were mighty friendly on that couch.  IMO

OMG they would be a true loop de loop.. But I really don’t think so.. he said he got closure!!

Well, yea, he probably would rather have 30 women of his own come fall.  But she didn't clearly explain why she sent him home over the others.  It felt like she said a whole lot of nothing.  IMO

She basically said he waited to long to tell her he love her!!! She like the verbal reassurance!

But that doesn't say anything about her feelings for him.  She didn't get verbal assurance she said she needed but still screwed him 4 times during fantasy suites.  What does that say about what she truly prioritizes at this stage in life?  It's why I can't see her settling down with anyone.  She lives in CA now.  She can always hook back up with Peter later  JMO.

I don't think she had feelings for him beyond him being a nice guy with whom she had sexual chemistry imo. Their conversations during the season were generally a whole lot of nothing. If she really cared to get him to the ILY point, she would have dug deeper. And mind you, this guy is supposed to be a Bach candidate but it seems like they didn't even have the footage to make their relationship look more than one-dimensional.

ReneeM wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:I think Hannah and Tyler would be really compatible in real life if only because not once this season have I thought Tyler was under any illusions about who Hannah is. The things people have criticized her for this season are things that Tyler praises. I think people might be projecting their feelings about Hannah onto Tyler. Like even if they don't get back together I think he'll still defend her and her choices.

Tyler thinking he can handle it and him actually being able to are very different things. I'm just saying. It feels like another kaitlyn/shawn or andi/josh situation waiting to happen.  I'd rather he walk.  He's the only one that has anything to lose here. The man is sitting on 1.2 million followers.  Why deal with the drama that will come from being with Hannah? JMO

Let's see how Tyler handles things when he's sitting next to her in media rounds and they start talking to Hannah about Peter in the windmill 4 times?  Do you all see that ending well for him?  He'll then be considered a jerk for not being able to deal with it.  JMO

The difference is that Tyler's shown himself to be the opposite of those guys personality wise. The way he thinks about women, their sexuality, them speaking their mind. Comparing him to those guys is actually disrespectful to him. Also both those guys showed those tendencies on the show, Tyler hasn't. As for potential media and talking about the windmill, he was comfortable enough joking about it on IG. And yes I would think he's a jerk if he got back together with her only to hold the show over her head for any length of time because if they get back together, he'll be making a fully informed decision because this is all out there, and part of that choice is letting go of what happened on the show and the things she did before they were in a relationship.

No offense, but you don't really know Tyler.  You just know what he tweets.  That doesn't indicate what he truly feels about all this.  He could be like Shawn, who IMO is not a bad man; he just got hurt.   I can't sit here and pretend like I know Tyler will handle it really well when he is asked or teased about Hannah screwing Peter 4 times in windmill.  But I know most guys in his age range, couldn't handle it and it would cause insecurities and problems.  So, as a fan of his, I'd rather he walk than stay with Hannah (yes, I believe they are already together).  I don't see it going well for him, and he needs to remove himself from her mess.  JMO

Summerfun1980 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:I think Hannah and Tyler would be really compatible in real life if only because not once this season have I thought Tyler was under any illusions about who Hannah is. The things people have criticized her for this season are things that Tyler praises. I think people might be projecting their feelings about Hannah onto Tyler. Like even if they don't get back together I think he'll still defend her and her choices.

Tyler thinking he can handle it and him actually being able to are very different things. I'm just saying. It feels like another kaitlyn/shawn or andi/josh situation waiting to happen.  I'd rather he walk.  He's the only one that has anything to lose here. The man is sitting on 1.2 million followers.  Why deal with the drama that will come from being with Hannah? JMO

Let's see how Tyler handles things when he's sitting next to her in media rounds and they start talking to Hannah about Peter in the windmill 4 times?  Do you all see that ending well for him?  He'll then be considered a jerk for not being able to deal with it.  JMO

Oh, Tyler seems very, very different than Josh and Shawn. Those men were very alpha dog, machismo types. Tyler is definitely a strong, confident man but I don't see any shades of those 2 guys in him. Not sure what happens with Hannah but he seems super chill and far less possessive and toxic.

And I feel like no matter what, Tyler and Hannah will be cool. I genuinely would not be surprised if they at the very least hooked up because of their social circle, age, attraction, etc.

I really think they are editing over pro for Tyler with all of Hannah’s ITM maybe to show Tyler how she was gushing over him... Hopefully to push him back to Hannah.  Because she wants him and they want her to have. Happy ending!!I am sure they have been talking to Tyler!! JMO
Because for Tyler to be so pro on Sm he knows she is done with Jed! JMO

msjr wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:I still don't get why she sent Peter home. Was it because she didn't know his true feelings? If so, she knows them now. Maybe the loop de loop is her returning to F3. They were mighty friendly on that couch.  IMO

OMG they would be a true loop de loop.. But I really don’t think so.. he said he got closure!!

Well, yea, he probably would rather have 30 women of his own come fall.  But she didn't clearly explain why she sent him home over the others.  It felt like she said a whole lot of nothing.  IMO

She basically said he waited to long to tell her he love her!!! She like the verbal reassurance!

But that doesn't say anything about her feelings for him.  She didn't get verbal assurance she said she needed but still screwed him 4 times during fantasy suites.  What does that say about what she truly prioritizes at this stage in life?  It's why I can't see her settling down with anyone.  She lives in CA now.  She can always hook back up with Peter later  JMO.

I don't think she had feelings for him beyond him being a nice guy with whom she had sexual chemistry imo.  Their conversations during the season were generally a whole lot of nothing. If she really cared to get him to the ILY point, she would have dug deeper. And mind you, this guy is supposed to be a Bach candidate but it seems like they didn't even have the footage to make their relationship look more than one-dimensional.

Ok, she didn't have feelings for him but screwed him four times in a windmill? What does that say about her mindset? And would your reaction be the same if a bachelor did what she did and bragged to the world about it? My guess is you would say he's immature and not ready for marriage. JMO

Alanna wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

Alanna wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:They want Peter for TB. Hannah is going to ask Tyler for a second chance and he’s gonna say yes. It’s the most obvious thing ever.

I know. I feel like I’m on my own island here. I see this whole afr already tomorrow.

Hannah reaming jed out (again) and then talking to Chris how she made a mistake, bringing Tyler out, crying/confessing, long dramatic pause, cut to commercial, him freaking out, more dragging out, and him saying yes/always eventually. And then kiss, twirl, Chris is BEFUMBLED.

You're definitely not alone.

Count me in! 

Also, I feel like Tyler watching that has to see that she clearly fell for him too and was torn to the point that it was making her physically ill. That has to be reassuring to him since some episodes were so Jed heavy. I feel like Hannah’s ITM when she said “I don’t want to get engaged to one guy and still be thinking about the other” will be a huge topic tomorrow. Add in that she apparently says to Jed “you took this experience from me” and it’s like dang, IMO this is the perfect set up for something to go down with Tyler tomorrow night.

Okay. Phew glad I have my girl gang here with me

This is gonna be a great afr imo and vulnerable, sweet, off the cuff Hannah with understanding, patient, loving Tyler is the freaking dream duo for this type of scenario imo.

Ok. Phew. All of my faves and I respect all of your opinions so much. So I’m in.

Hear hear!!

Summerfun1980 wrote:Can we talk about how Peter really won the season?  He never really wanted to marry Hannah in my opinion and she's not ready to settle down. IMO But he got lots of sex, will be known as the man forever, and maybe 20 + women in the fall.  He won!

ReneeM wrote:

Summerfun1980 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:I think Hannah and Tyler would be really compatible in real life if only because not once this season have I thought Tyler was under any illusions about who Hannah is. The things people have criticized her for this season are things that Tyler praises. I think people might be projecting their feelings about Hannah onto Tyler. Like even if they don't get back together I think he'll still defend her and her choices.

Tyler thinking he can handle it and him actually being able to are very different things. I'm just saying. It feels like another kaitlyn/shawn or andi/josh situation waiting to happen.  I'd rather he walk.  He's the only one that has anything to lose here. The man is sitting on 1.2 million followers.  Why deal with the drama that will come from being with Hannah? JMO

Let's see how Tyler handles things when he's sitting next to her in media rounds and they start talking to Hannah about Peter in the windmill 4 times?  Do you all see that ending well for him?  He'll then be considered a jerk for not being able to deal with it.  JMO

The difference is that Tyler's shown himself to be the opposite of those guys personality wise. The way he thinks about women, their sexuality, them speaking their mind. Comparing him to those guys is actually disrespectful to him. Also both those guys showed those tendencies on the show, Tyler hasn't. As for potential media and talking about the windmill, he was comfortable enough joking about it on IG. And yes I would think he's a jerk if he got back together with her only to hold the show over her head for any length of time because if they get back together, he'll be making a fully informed decision because this is all out there, and part of that choice is letting go of what happened on the show and the things she did before they were in a relationship.

Thanks @ReneeM for saving me the time to type all this out.


Comparing freaking Tyler Cameron to both Josh Murray and Shawn Booth is an insult. An absolute insult. To Tyler. If Tyler gets back together with Hannah, he has all of the information transparent in front of him. He will take her back and respect her and move forward, or he won’t.

I could have (and probably did if you search my post history ) tell you that Shawn and Josh were toxic from like waaaaaay the beginning many years ago. Different people, different situations. Doesn’t compare.

Alanna wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

Alanna wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:They want Peter for TB. Hannah is going to ask Tyler for a second chance and he’s gonna say yes. It’s the most obvious thing ever.

I know. I feel like I’m on my own island here. I see this whole afr already tomorrow.

Hannah reaming jed out (again) and then talking to Chris how she made a mistake, bringing Tyler out, crying/confessing, long dramatic pause, cut to commercial, him freaking out, more dragging out, and him saying yes/always eventually. And then kiss, twirl, Chris is BEFUMBLED.

You're definitely not alone.

Count me in! 

Also, I feel like Tyler watching that has to see that she clearly fell for him too and was torn to the point that it was making her physically ill. That has to be reassuring to him since some episodes were so Jed heavy. I feel like Hannah’s ITM when she said “I don’t want to get engaged to one guy and still be thinking about the other” will be a huge topic tomorrow. Add in that she apparently says to Jed “you took this experience from me” and it’s like dang, IMO this is the perfect set up for something to go down with Tyler tomorrow night.

Okay. Phew glad I have my girl gang here with me

This is gonna be a great afr imo and vulnerable, sweet, off the cuff Hannah with understanding, patient, loving Tyler is the freaking dream duo for this type of scenario imo.

Count me in!! This episode was fabulous! It has changed everything. Looks like some recent editing. ;)

@Summerfun1980 just wanna say I agree with many of your posts.

Summerfun1980 wrote:
No offense, but you don't really know Tyler.  He just know what he tweets.  That doesn't indicate what he truly feels about all this.  He could be like Shawn, who IMO is not a bad man; he just got hurt.   I can't sit hear and pretend like I know Tyler will handle it really well when he is asked or teased about Hannah screwing Peter 4 times in windmill.  But I know most guys in his age range, couldn't handle it and it would cause insecurities and problems.  So, as a fan of his, I'd rather he walk than stay with Hannah (yes, I believe they are already together).  I don't see it going well for him, and he needs to remove himself from her mess.  JMO  

None of us know any of these people, we form judgements based on what we see on tv and their sm and interviews. It's my opinion that no matter what happens Tyler will defend Hannah. I think that's a pretty safe assumption given that he's already been doing it. It's also my opinion that if he were to get back with Hannah knowing everything that happened and then used it against her, he would be a d*ck.