Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Tyler Cameron - FAN Forum #4 - **SLEUTHING SPOILERS**

[Cari]

ohhh, Sir @Lucas15 thank YOU for your Body Language analyis! For a moment i thought the question should be asked and answered in the Comparison Thread because the question IMO seems to question Hannah and her disconnect with Tyler in FS as other non-Tannah Fans viewed and have been extensively discussed in the General Thread. Because it is assumed that this FAN FORUM did not question at all Hannah and Tyler's connection in the Fantasy Suite. It is assumed that this FAN FORUM saw the physical AND emotional connection of Tannah.

Sigh of Relief! Your detailed answer was perfect! It hopefully satisfies those in doubt that Hannah has NOT emotionally disconnected with Tyler in FS. Because it has in your opinion, satisfied my Hannah and giddy that Tyler passed the Test!

Sir @Lucas15 ?

[Lucas15]

I transcribed the sketchy ITM from the fantasy suite dinner
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THANKS. I had actually gone back to include it before I realized you had done it for me so I deleted my post. I did NOT refer to this ITM when I wrote my analysis - I simple wrote what I saw and what I thought about what I saw. It was sort of funny when I read the details of the ITM to realize how closely Hannah's words aligned with what I saw. IMO we have been given that scene as it was edited and Hannah's ITM as part of a storyline and really need to keep sleuthing that storyline.

[Alanna]

I transcribed the sketchy ITM from the fantasy suite dinner where Hannah was talking about Tyler. I think this may have been recorded in LA (perhaps very recently) and is demonstrating Hannah's current feelings toward Tyler.

This ITM, along with other things I've started seeing on social media, makes me think Hannah and Tyler actually may have reunited recently.

I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't phase him. It shows how much he loves me. I feel really good about going into a fantasy suite with him and just being respected. He makes me feel strong because he allows me to be the strong woman that I am and he celebrates my boundaries.

Thanks for transcribing. She said this with SO MUCH feeling & emotion too that it makes me want to get off my own 1-person Negative Nancy train and beeeeelieve.

[Cari]

I transcribed the sketchy ITM from the fantasy suite dinner where Hannah was talking about Tyler. I think this may have been recorded in LA (perhaps very recently) and is demonstrating Hannah's current feelings toward Tyler.

This ITM, along with other things I've started seeing on social media, makes me think Hannah and Tyler actually may have reunited recently.

I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't phase him. It shows how much he loves me. I feel really good about going into a fantasy suite with him and just being respected. He makes me feel strong because he allows me to be the strong woman that I am and he celebrates my boundaries.

Thanks for transcribing. She said this with SO MUCH feeling & emotion too that it makes me want to get off my own 1-person Negative Nancy train and beeeeelieve.

Oh you know you want to, my Friend Alanna! Want me to bribe you with 3 different Dodgers hats?

[Alanna]

I transcribed the sketchy ITM from the fantasy suite dinner where Hannah was talking about Tyler. I think this may have been recorded in LA (perhaps very recently) and is demonstrating Hannah's current feelings toward Tyler.

This ITM, along with other things I've started seeing on social media, makes me think Hannah and Tyler actually may have reunited recently.

I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't phase him. It shows how much he loves me. I feel really good about going into a fantasy suite with him and just being respected. He makes me feel strong because he allows me to be the strong woman that I am and he celebrates my boundaries.

Thanks for transcribing. She said this with SO MUCH feeling & emotion too that it makes me want to get off my own 1-person Negative Nancy train and beeeeelieve.

Oh you know you want to, my Friend Alanna! Want me to bribe you with 3 different Dodgers hats?

Haha those hats do feel a little on the nose too considering Hannahers is moving to LA and everyone knows it now.

Overall, there really are a lot of sm clues pointing to this thing ending how I’d want it to end. Well just have to wait and see.

[Ash2214]

I was just thinking back to three years ago. On the morning of JoJo’s ATFR, RS tweeted out that he heard from a reliable source that JoJo dumped Jordan. 

All of those who tracked their social media were pretty adamant that he was wrong. JoJo consistently let us know that she was happy through her social media. Turns out RS was wrong. JoJo and Jordan were literally in bed together when RS tweeted it out and they were totally confused  

I’m definitely not one who thinks the spoiler is wrong. I believe the spoiler and a lot of the time I think social media tells the story. I’m not saying Tyler and Hannah are full blown together right now, but do I think something could still happen? Yes. We’ll see in about a week.

[alwayscooking]

Here are the SCs to compare the date to the ITM



Here's another one that shows her hair better, definitely the ITM was at a different time, her hair is wavy in the ITM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVI6Zoy-VE4&t=102s

[LaineyG]

I transcribed the sketchy ITM from the fantasy suite dinner where Hannah was talking about Tyler. I think this may have been recorded in LA (perhaps very recently) and is demonstrating Hannah's current feelings toward Tyler.

This ITM, along with other things I've started seeing on social media, makes me think Hannah and Tyler actually may have reunited recently.

I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't phase him. It shows how much he loves me. I feel really good about going into a fantasy suite with him and just being respected. He makes me feel strong because he allows me to be the strong woman that I am and he celebrates my boundaries.

Thanks for transcribing. She said this with SO MUCH feeling & emotion too that it makes me want to get off my own 1-person Negative Nancy train and beeeeelieve.

Me too. I miss this thread. I love Hannah and I really like Tyler too. I wanted them to end up together But hey no one really knows what is going to happen right??? It’s easy for RS to spoil things that have already happened on the show. The afr has not happened yet so anything is possible. . I am curious about the LA hats. I’ll have to go back and read more. I did notice that he has been wearing his!

[SeekAny]

Maybe they can get a drink in NYC when she goes to do press there. Is that too much to ask?! Join him on a run. Again, too much to ask?! Can you imagine even if they’re just friends and spotted out in NYC. We’d be like

[Alanna]

I was just thinking back to three years ago. On the morning of JoJo’s ATFR, RS tweeted out that he heard from a reliable source that JoJo dumped Jordan. 

All of those who tracked their social media were pretty adamant that he was wrong. JoJo consistently let us know that she was happy through her social media. Turns out RS was wrong. JoJo and Jordan were literally in bed together when RS tweeted it out and they were totally confused  

I’m definitely not one who thinks the spoiler is wrong. I believe the spoiler and a lot of the time I think social media tells the story. I’m not saying Tyler and Hannah are full blown together right now, but do I think something could still happen? Yes. We’ll see in about a week.

Just remembered this!! I cried probably thanks Steve for robbing months of my life. Lawdddd.

[Guest]

I transcribed the sketchy ITM from the fantasy suite dinner where Hannah was talking about Tyler. I think this may have been recorded in LA (perhaps very recently) and is demonstrating Hannah's current feelings toward Tyler.

This ITM, along with other things I've started seeing on social media, makes me think Hannah and Tyler actually may have reunited recently.

I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't phase him. It shows how much he loves me. I feel really good about going into a fantasy suite with him and just being respected. He makes me feel strong because he allows me to be the strong woman that I am and he celebrates my boundaries.

Thanks for transcribing. She said this with SO MUCH feeling & emotion too that it makes me want to get off my own 1-person Negative Nancy train and beeeeelieve.

Me too.  I miss this thread. I love Hannah and I really like Tyler too.  I wanted them to end up together   But hey no one really knows what is going to happen right???   It’s easy for RS to spoil things that have already happened on the show.   The afr has not happened yet so anything is possible.  . I am curious about the LA hats. I’ll have to go back and read more.  I did notice that he has been wearing his!

Actually there is a very good chance that they found a way to foil RS ala Des and Brooks . They gave a pic to RS that looks like it counteracted the Ty is F1 spoiler. That pic is said to depict an SHV between Jed and Hannah right before they broke up. There is another possible explanation to that pic even with Hannah still being engaged to Tyler . The gf revelation brought to Hannah’s attention and her wanting to take care of it with film crew in tow.
There was  early sleuthing done even while things were being filmed. When Hannah and Tyler returned to the states,  it was picked up by a sleuther here that Ty was following Hannah around on sm. A friend of mine did a deep dive into the early sleuthing to prove this. Here’s one and the person who wrote this will probably recognize it.
“6. While Hannah was doing both her East Coast & West Coast media rounds, we were able to pinpoint that Tyler was up listening to those interviews . A good example was him following Chicks in the Office right after Hannah did her interview with them . We do know later on that one of the co-hosts from the show subsequently invited him to come on the show. ”
The point is, only Ty was acting like an F1 even early on. The one dig against him being F1 is no proof of SHV’s . These two have shown themselves to be sneaky . I’m thinking of the JZ/Alicia Keys song about NY...NY concrete jungles where dreams of made of , there’s nothing you can’t do down in NY

I can’t wait to hear how they fooled us with their sneaky antics . I made a comment earlier why did Ty wear the same things over and over. It was stated that it’s because Ty only did running etc.
Maybe there’s another reason . Easier to post latergrams and connect clothing to current events when it could actually be earlier the way a latergram is supposed to work. . #mastermind
Hannah seems so determined to keep her ending under wraps.  Wouldn’t that include hiding your footsteps when needed?
Jmo.

[bleuberry]

The thing with RS is, he can only spoil what has already happened. Everything else is guess work and opinions. He said Hannah and Tyler will not be in contact until they see each other for the first time on ATFR (makes sense). So RS saying there's nothing happening between H&T now is in line with that. What will happen on and after ATFR between them is something RS can't know, and maybe even Hannah & Tyler themselves don't know, yet (leaning towards this one).

@sosleepy aaaaand just reading your post and I'm basically just repeating what you said .

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