Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Spoiled F2 - FAN FORUM #3- **SLEUTHING SPOILERS**

[msjr]

I also still go back to the comment by Mills that she changed her mind last minute. Bear with me. We have not seen anything from either guy arriving at the FRC. Have they not shown it because Jed arrived 1st and Tyler 2nd... but she changed her mind and let Jed propose then accepted and then had to deal with Tyler several hours later?  That would be a wild ending. Something we've never seen before.  (Not counting Jesse's season because of the F2 arriving after F1. She kept getting sick. More than likely that situation is one reason they schedule the finalists farther apart time wise).

It could totally be a regular ending as well.  My gut just tells me there is a whole lot more that happened than a straight forward F2 arrives 1st, gets rejected then F1 comes in and they celebrate their happiness.

I think for one of the few times in the franchise's history the FRC day really was as dramatic as advertised and jaws will be on the ground watching it play out.

[mbl]

One thing I know I will not handle well is if Hannah is so confused the day of the Frc that Tyler is left waiting somewhere for a final answer. I'm still thinking she doesn't let him go early....not sure how I feel about that...

Something is just so weird to me about all of this. I just don’t see how the show can credibly get any viewer to think that Hannah chooses Tyler and Tyler proposes to Hannah given that she didn’t want to have sex with him.  Listen, it wasn’t mutually exclusive, they could have had sex and they could have talked all night, it’s been done before.  But she didn’t want that and that’s totally absolutely fine.  I just feel like there’s more to all of this because it’s 2019 and the show is delusional if it thinks Tyler (liberal, progressive Tyler) would propose to Hannah under these circumstances.  All IMO

ETA:  So is there more to this, possibly?  Oy vey, going down the rabbit hole again.

I see it differently because I watch with a group of non-spoiled and they didn't like Tyler before last episode AT ALL. They didn't think Hannah trusted him because he was a player and too smooth. They couldn't even remember his name. They kept calling him "hot Florida guy".  

  But the fantasy date changed everything for them.  They were all in tears and couldn't believe how they had mis-read him and they feel like Hannah, for the first time, really saw who he was as a human being. They're all madly in love and rooting so hard for him now to be the "winner".  

I feel like his edit has been great and that his story arc climaxed last episode. As I watch back I feel like Hannah's pick-up supports this theory on his edit.  I'll try to add screencaps later but you can see in the evening ITM's that her hair is curled instead of straight.  Here's what she says:  "I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't faze him. It shows how much he loves me".   IMO this pickup shows them making the extra effort to show another whole side of Tyler which makes him more of a complete package for Hannah.  Before, she didn't trust him.  We kept hearing her doubt him.  This date showed them overcome the obstacle in their relationship. I'm curious to know if they are showing us this because he's F1 or because they want the tragedy of Hannah's bad "picker" to be further highlighted.   

I’m in total agreement that this edit made people root for Tyler. It just seems a little fanciful to me to think that two sexually active people would get engaged before having sex (I’m assuming Tyler is sexually active here, which doesn’t seem like a stretch). That’s why I’m wondering if something more happens??? All IMO

[Guest]

One thing I know I will not handle well is if Hannah is so confused the day of the Frc that Tyler is left waiting somewhere for a final answer. I'm still thinking she doesn't let him go early....not sure how I feel about that...

Something is just so weird to me about all of this. I just don’t see how the show can credibly get any viewer to think that Hannah chooses Tyler and Tyler proposes to Hannah given that she didn’t want to have sex with him.  Listen, it wasn’t mutually exclusive, they could have had sex and they could have talked all night, it’s been done before.  But she didn’t want that and that’s totally absolutely fine.  I just feel like there’s more to all of this because it’s 2019 and the show is delusional if it thinks Tyler (liberal, progressive Tyler) would propose to Hannah under these circumstances.  All IMO

ETA:  So is there more to this, possibly?  Oy vey, going down the rabbit hole again.

I see it differently because I watch with a group of non-spoiled and they didn't like Tyler before last episode AT ALL. They didn't think Hannah trusted him because he was a player and too smooth. They couldn't even remember his name. They kept calling him "hot Florida guy".    But the fantasy date changed everything for them.  They were all in tears and couldn't believe how they had mis-read him and they feel like Hannah, for the first time, really saw who he was as a human being. They're all madly in love and rooting so hard for him now to be the "winner".  

I feel like his edit has been great and that his story arc climaxed last episode. As I watch back I feel like Hannah's pick-up support this theory of his edit.  I'll try to add screencaps later but you can see in the evening ITM's that her hair is curled instead of straight.  Here's what she says:  "I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't faze him. It shows how much he loves me".   IMO this pickup shows them making the extra effort to show another whole side of Tyler which makes him more of a complete package for Hannah.  Before, she didn't trust him.  We kept hearing her doubt him.  This date showed them overcome the obstacle in their relationship. I'm curious to know if they are showing us this because he's F1 or because they want the tragedy of Hannah's bad "picker" to be further highlighted.   

Now there you go! Kudos for thinking outside of the box. Ty is on the rise of how she feel about him. She said it was different from all her other relationships there. She recognizes he’s a man of his word are realizes how much he loves her. She cries and says she’s NEVER been respected by any man like the way Ty respected her. This spoiler made us shut our minds down and afraid to challenge what our eyes see and our hearts feel.
Maybe that’s why the false spoiler was planted . To hide the obvious love story developing because from what Hannah said..She separated Ty from the pack. What they have is so real and organic not manufactured like the other dude in question . Soon we’ll see what Hannah’s family felt between the two . Jed is the safe and comfortable choice but Tyler has an edge and that edge seems to complement Hannah’s . I haven’t heard anything saying this season is a disaster except what spoilers are saying. That loud spoiler site does not have a pristine record with the Bachelorette even when he said he was sure. All other spoiler sites more less feed off of each other.
I sticking with my gut . Tannah is THE thing .
Jmho

[avacaroline]

One thing I know I will not handle well is if Hannah is so confused the day of the Frc that Tyler is left waiting somewhere for a final answer. I'm still thinking she doesn't let him go early....not sure how I feel about that...

Something is just so weird to me about all of this. I just don’t see how the show can credibly get any viewer to think that Hannah chooses Tyler and Tyler proposes to Hannah given that she didn’t want to have sex with him.  Listen, it wasn’t mutually exclusive, they could have had sex and they could have talked all night, it’s been done before.  But she didn’t want that and that’s totally absolutely fine.  I just feel like there’s more to all of this because it’s 2019 and the show is delusional if it thinks Tyler (liberal, progressive Tyler) would propose to Hannah under these circumstances.  All IMO

ETA:  So is there more to this, possibly?  Oy vey, going down the rabbit hole again.

I see it differently because I watch with a group of non-spoiled and they didn't like Tyler before last episode AT ALL. They didn't think Hannah trusted him because he was a player and too smooth. They couldn't even remember his name. They kept calling him "hot Florida guy".  

  But the fantasy date changed everything for them.  They were all in tears and couldn't believe how they had mis-read him and they feel like Hannah, for the first time, really saw who he was as a human being. They're all madly in love and rooting so hard for him now to be the "winner".  

I feel like his edit has been great and that his story arc climaxed last episode. As I watch back I feel like Hannah's pick-up supports this theory on his edit.  I'll try to add screencaps later but you can see in the evening ITM's that her hair is curled instead of straight.  Here's what she says:  "I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't faze him. It shows how much he loves me".   IMO this pickup shows them making the extra effort to show another whole side of Tyler which makes him more of a complete package for Hannah.  Before, she didn't trust him.  We kept hearing her doubt him.  This date showed them overcome the obstacle in their relationship. I'm curious to know if they are showing us this because he's F1 or because they want the tragedy of Hannah's bad "picker" to be further highlighted.   

I’m in total agreement that this edit made people root for Tyler.  It just seems a little fanciful to me to think that two sexually active people would get engaged before having sex (I’m assuming Tyler is sexually active here, which doesn’t seem like a stretch).  That’s why I’m wondering if something more happens???   All IMO

I think there is the definitely the possibility that they had sex during the day or that maybe even in Jupiter.  I am convinced that their was a familiarity in their interaction during the massage that was undeniable.  For me, that was not 2 people that hadn't been intimate before.  

[Summerfun1980]

IMO the finale is not about driving suspense as to whom she picks this season. Colton's finale didn't have any suspense re whom he wanted. It was about him quitting the show and chasing Cassie. I frankly expect Tyler to be an after thought, which is really how he's been treated all season, with the Peter rejection after windmill sex and then lead up to Jed being exposed and then Jed dumped, then Hannah live explaining why she dumped peter after the windmill and Jed in the hot seat trying to explain his actions and fighting with Hannah. Plenty of drama and things to keep folks glued to the tv without selling the F1 and F2 as a close competition. JMO

[mbl]

One thing I know I will not handle well is if Hannah is so confused the day of the Frc that Tyler is left waiting somewhere for a final answer. I'm still thinking she doesn't let him go early....not sure how I feel about that...

Something is just so weird to me about all of this. I just don’t see how the show can credibly get any viewer to think that Hannah chooses Tyler and Tyler proposes to Hannah given that she didn’t want to have sex with him.  Listen, it wasn’t mutually exclusive, they could have had sex and they could have talked all night, it’s been done before.  But she didn’t want that and that’s totally absolutely fine.  I just feel like there’s more to all of this because it’s 2019 and the show is delusional if it thinks Tyler (liberal, progressive Tyler) would propose to Hannah under these circumstances.  All IMO

ETA:  So is there more to this, possibly?  Oy vey, going down the rabbit hole again.

I see it differently because I watch with a group of non-spoiled and they didn't like Tyler before last episode AT ALL. They didn't think Hannah trusted him because he was a player and too smooth. They couldn't even remember his name. They kept calling him "hot Florida guy".  

  But the fantasy date changed everything for them.  They were all in tears and couldn't believe how they had mis-read him and they feel like Hannah, for the first time, really saw who he was as a human being. They're all madly in love and rooting so hard for him now to be the "winner".  

I feel like his edit has been great and that his story arc climaxed last episode. As I watch back I feel like Hannah's pick-up supports this theory on his edit.  I'll try to add screencaps later but you can see in the evening ITM's that her hair is curled instead of straight.  Here's what she says:  "I think he handled what I said really well tonight. He didn't question why I felt the way I did. It didn't faze him. It shows how much he loves me".   IMO this pickup shows them making the extra effort to show another whole side of Tyler which makes him more of a complete package for Hannah.  Before, she didn't trust him.  We kept hearing her doubt him.  This date showed them overcome the obstacle in their relationship. I'm curious to know if they are showing us this because he's F1 or because they want the tragedy of Hannah's bad "picker" to be further highlighted.   

I’m in total agreement that this edit made people root for Tyler.  It just seems a little fanciful to me to think that two sexually active people would get engaged before having sex (I’m assuming Tyler is sexually active here, which doesn’t seem like a stretch).  That’s why I’m wondering if something more happens???   All IMO

I think there is the definitely the possibility that they had sex during the day or that maybe even in Jupiter.  I am convinced that their was a familiarity in their interaction during the massage that was undeniable.  For me, that was not 2 people that hadn't been intimate before.  

That massage scene was something else, I’ll give you that, as were her emotions the next morning.

[violetstoo]

Fun video!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjDap6v9Yqc

[okkaayy]

I’m actually really surprised how much everyone here and on reddit is off the Tyler and Hannah getting back together train. Hannah’s tweets and then tylers tweets and IG likes speak volumes to me. He’s still liking photos of her fairly regularly.

[Guest]

I’m actually really surprised how much everyone here and on reddit is off the Tyler and Hannah getting back together train. Hannah’s tweets and then tylers tweets and IG likes speak volumes to me. He’s still liking photos of her fairly regularly.

It certainly has killed the buzz.
But so happy there are those who refuse to jump ship. Perhaps it will lead to indication and alidation.

[mbl]

Fun video!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjDap6v9Yqc

I love this video! Tyler is just the best. I’ll be watching this many times I’m sure. Thanks for sharing.

[Billysmom]

Gus I wanna stay aboard but I'm already having anxiety about watching the foot come out of the limo.....my old heart can't take roller coasters these days.... But love tc!!!

[Guest]

Gus I wanna stay aboard but I'm already having anxiety about watching the foot come out of the limo.....my old heart can't take roller coasters these days.... But love tc!!!

Even if it’s Tylerʻs foot first there’s hope she sees him and chooses him before Jed comes then needs to reject Jed. That can fit the narrative or her changing her mind last minute . Or she picks Jed but realizes she wanted Tyler more. There’s a reason why Ty and Jed remained friends after the the show and it stopped at a certain point. There’s also a reason it was sleuthed very early on that Ty’s SM action showed he was the one following Hannah post show and not Jed. There’s a reason why Ty moved to NYC soon after the show started airing .Is there a reason Hannah’s mom makes a big statement about Hannah moving to LA and last week Ty was there ? The word in the air is Mike or Peter are up for the Lead as TB. Mike more likely . So why would Ty be there ? With Ty’s popularity would Mike have a chance against him? I don’t think so . If we thought outside of the box could it be he went to check out the place he and Hannah would live? He’s not rooted in NYC. He can’t show that he’s moving with Hannah till after the show anyway .:Maybe all our questions about their seeming lack of SHVs and now moving to LA will be answered . We shall see.
Jmho

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