Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #8

notarose wrote:

just me wrote:
 "Chris Harrison Calls Hannah Brown a ‘Hero’: I’m Glad My 15-Year-Old Daughter Can Watch Her"  Does he really want his 15 year old daughter following her example? I have 2 daughters and IMO Hannah did not leave a good example for young girls to follow.

From the article:
“I love that we are starting to have these conversations. I’m proud of Hannah for throwing herself out there, embarrassingly so. No one wants to talk about the fact that you’ve had sex in a windmill with somebody,” he notes, referencing Brown’s fantasy date reveal. “She reluctantly became that hero, the voice and the face of this, so hopefully other women in toxic relationships or other women facing this won’t face this.”

How does hero and talking about sex in a windmill correlate? And seriously, I wouldn’t be embarrassed to talk about having sex in a windmill so what’s with the “nobody”? It’s an Airbnb. Sheesh. CH is so dramatic.

Ridiculous. She is the voice and no hero of nobody. Some prefer to remain private and some do not care to talk about it. It depends of the personality and values. CH is just trying to defend Hannah because many conservatives disagree and are quite vocal about it on SM :shootme:

She's a hero to me. A badazz woman who shows me to know my worth and needs no man. Jmo

CH is certainly very dramatic as expected

Those are heroines in my book https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/g4201/famous-feminists-throughout-history/

Not an angry woman who yelled at a guy who doesn’t have the same religious values.

My opinion anyway.

I don’t even think it’s fair to compare Hannah to those women. She’s not trying to be one of them. She’s a 24 year old Bachelorette. She came on the show to find love which involves sex that no one openly talks about. She didn’t come on the show to change the world or achieve world peace or win a Nobel peace prize.

She’s very brave to openly talk about it never mind the opinion or judgment of people. Some people want it private, some people want it open. Matter of preference or beliefs.

Only Jesus knows what’s in Hannah’s heart and only He can judge her. That’s in the Bible, I believe. Just my opinion.

HEA wrote:CH is certainly very dramatic as expected

Those are heroines in my book https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/g4201/famous-feminists-throughout-history/

Not an angry woman who yelled at a guy who doesn’t have the same religious values.

My opinion anyway.

Happy Sunday, HEA

I agree Hannah is no one’s heroine and definitely NOT a role model. However, to be fair she did not yell at Luke because he had different religious values. She yelled at him because he spoke to her like she was gum on the bottom of his shoe and he himself proved it was nothing more than an attempt to denigrate, embarrass and control her. IMO.

If their difference of opinion had been about a difference in religious values he would have taken himself out of there, never to be heard from again because what I do give her credit for is being very honest and explicit in her response. He was left with ‘put up or shut up’ on steroids and he STHU. So, his religious values in this case IMO, equal zero. He was just bluffing, bullying and bs ing which is one of many reasons he’s just your typical azzhole with a fresh coat of fake, IMO.

SarahD wrote:I don’t even think it’s fair to compare Hannah to those women. She’s not trying to be one of them. She’s a 24 year old Bachelorette. She came on the show to find love which involves sex that no one openly talks about.  She didn’t come on the show to change the world or achieve world peace or win a Nobel peace prize.

She’s very brave to openly talk about it never mind the opinion or judgment of people. Some people want it private, some people want it open. Matter of preference or beliefs.

Only Jesus knows what’s in Hannah’s heart and only He can judge her. That’s in the Bible, I believe. Just my opinion.

The reason why I don’t find brave attached to the only sexual experience she talked about is because it was about Peter in the windmill and was said to Luke IMO to shut him down. It was said in anger, not confidence. She basically used talk of sex with one person to hurt another person. JMO she hurt 2 people because Peter was clear with Hannah, both times she flashed a condom in the camera (car and treasure chest), that he didn’t appreciate it yet it was sex with him that she broadcast. Peter set a boundary she ignored.

The only thing Hannah did for me is increase my confidence knowing I would never take crap from anyone, period. I don't need to fix anyone at the cost of my mental stability. They need to fix themselves when they are ready. She didn't have the common sense to eliminate Luke when he should have been eliminated.

@notarose exactly, ITA that comment was one of those rebel fake wannabe moments to show how tough she is, for me that's an immature way to deal with it. There are far better choice words to use than what she did. What if Peter didn't want anyone to know they had sex? If the shoe was on the other foot, and Peter said "we had sex in the windmill", I'm sure SM would break with all the negative sexist comments. It's ok for Hannah to admit on national tv she had sex with one of the contestants, and yet Nick V IMHO got slammed for doing the same and he was a F2 who was led to believe he'd be the F1. He was no hero that's for sure.

@notarose @GuardianAngel yes and yes

After meeting Tyler today, I would be happy with him not taking her back and finding another woman. She is not ready for the man I met today. He is genuinely the real deal. I can't tell if he is single or not, but ABC Foods is planning to expand.

Patience2415 wrote:After meeting Tyler today, I would be happy with him not taking her back and finding another woman. She is not ready for the man I met today. He is genuinely the real deal. I can't tell if he is single or not, but ABC Foods is planning to expand.

Omg tell us more about meeting him. Is he intimidating..well as far as looks go? Hannah seems to think so.

Patience2415 wrote:After meeting Tyler today, I would be happy with him not taking her back and finding another woman. She is not ready for the man I met today. He is genuinely the real deal. I can't tell if he is single or not, but ABC Foods is planning to expand.

Oh how wonderful you got to meet Tyler baby. I saw one of the vids from the instructor where he was getting y’all going, what a fun dude. Re the bold, did they share if the plan is to expand ABC Foods nation wide, TYIA.

Patience2415 wrote:After meeting Tyler today, I would be happy with him not taking her back and finding another woman. She is not ready for the man I met today. He is genuinely the real deal. I can't tell if he is single or not, but ABC Foods is planning to expand.

Thanks for this! What do you mean planning to expand?