Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

Dirty Street Pie wrote:I've just discovered Bachelor Archive, yay, so now I can watch American Bach, as we don't get it in Australia any more. I didn't watch Colton's season, so had no exposure to Hannah before, but wow, she is just great! So out of the typical Bachelorette mode, really not polished, despite being a beauty queen, and seems very down to earth. I'm surprised by how physical she is with her guys, as the Australian Betts's are VERY tame compared to her, but I love it, you go get what you need Hannah 

I can't help but read spoilers, so my perception of Jed is coloured by what I knew about him before I watched. I just can't warm to him, but I wonder if that would be different if I was watching with fresh eyes. If he didn't want his life to turn into a raging dumpster fire he should have stuck with the original plan, and self eliminated at F5.

Luke is the worst. I've met people like him, who hide behind their faith, and have zero self awareness. He's not going to change, because he genuinely thinks he's done nothing wrong, and in his opinion, has God on his side. The best we can hope is that one day he has another shower epiphany, and realise that he is a douche.

And I love Tyler, he is beautiful and glorious, the end 

Hanging out for these hometown dates, sounds like Jed's will be messy, and Luke's will certainly be interesting.

HEA wrote:
We have social media spoiling for a decade now. So prods, imo, changed their game to play and use this to their advantage. They tried for many years to hide but failed, thanks to RS. They are reasons why the teasers changed too. We used to see glimpses of the FRC on ep1 teaser, but no more.

Now taping a breakup is for prods a rating miracle. Jason, jake, Arie... and now Hannah.. first bachelorette. Considering the last 4 or 5 bachelorettes picked their F1 at ep1 with the FIR.... this season had to be dramatic to keep the ratings up. Reasons also why they decided to give us the list of all contestants BEFORE the premiere in order to obtain some juicy current or exes stories to incorporate into Hannah season. Imo, they knew about Haley but also other girls with other contestants. They picked one for the drama exit, using Demi... why set up that at premiere, prods could have eliminated him before. If they were (sarcasm) really friends with Hannah, they would have eliminated this guy beforehand with no fuss. They wanted drama and frustration from the start at premiere. They gave poop to Hannah from beginning to end imo. They did not know if Hannah would fall for Jed but they knew her enough to hope... they knew if she wanted to move from the South, knew her type of men, knew her well enough to manipulate her. They always select their leads as carefully as the contestants, discuss risks, possibilities and script with alternative endings. All of them are pawns.

But underneath, contestants have the same role to play and the lead will fall in love with one guy only, every other guys will get a number to be eliminated. It is the toppings that change, not the cake

So I understand the hopes to see again another switch with Tyler but I do not see this happening at all.

The only possibility is a change of mind from Hannah to give a second chance to Jed... if the love is real between them after all the trashy social media will calm down and move on to the next season. It is a possibility but not a certitude. Chances are very low IMO

Jmo

chgohighlife wrote:
Hey Girl @HEA
I’m really hoping Tyler does not mix it up long term with Hot Mess Hannah and I can’t imagine why his mom is pushing for it. In other words, I hope you’re right about that but, I can see many efforts afoot to prevent Hannah from going home empty-handed. Fans are literally conjuring up a Tyler reboot so, I expect tptb to try to make that happen. I just want him to say no but, this is a superhero moment he may not pass up so, I’ve prepared myself for that. She and Peter had magic and he supposedly took it hard but, who knows?

Where I disagree: IMO, Hannah had an INCREDIBLE group of men. One of the best I’ve seen from the standpoint of education and employment. Seemingly respectful gentlemen who by and large seemed into her. Great credentials and jobs for the most part. The problem is her taste veered to men I think most girls would have sent home early, IMO.

North wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I think the future potential earnings are also significantly related to length of time on show and definitely more as one approaches the FRC.

Right. Which is why F5 seemed odd to me. F4 is the money shot, right? You practically get a 30 minute infomercial about yourself and for a aspiring musician, this would be ideal.

HEA wrote:Moving my post to general discussion

HEA wrote:
We have social media spoiling for a decade now. So prods, imo, changed their game to play and use this to their advantage. They tried for many years to hide but failed, thanks to RS. They are reasons why the teasers changed too. We used to see glimpses of the FRC on ep1 teaser, but no more.

Now taping a breakup is for prods a rating miracle. Jason, jake, Arie... and now Hannah.. first bachelorette. Considering the last 4 or 5 bachelorettes picked their F1 at ep1 with the FIR.... this season had to be dramatic to keep the ratings up. Reasons also why they decided to give us the list of all contestants BEFORE the premiere in order to obtain some juicy current or exes stories to incorporate into Hannah season. Imo, they knew about Haley but also other girls with other contestants. They picked one for the drama exit, using Demi... why set up that at premiere, prods could have eliminated him before. If they were (sarcasm) really friends with Hannah, they would have eliminated this guy beforehand with no fuss. They wanted drama and frustration from the start at premiere. They gave poop to Hannah from beginning to end imo. They did not know if Hannah would fall for Jed but they knew her enough to hope... they knew if she wanted to move from the South, knew her type of men, knew her well enough to manipulate her. They always select their leads as carefully as the contestants, discuss risks, possibilities and script with alternative endings. All of them are pawns.

But underneath, contestants have the same role to play and the lead will fall in love with one guy only, every other guys will get a number to be eliminated. It is the toppings that change, not the cake

So I understand the hopes to see again another switch with Tyler but I do not see this happening at all.

The only possibility is a change of mind from Hannah to give a second chance to Jed... if the love is real between them after all the trashy social media will calm down and move on to the next season. It is a possibility but not a certitude. Chances are very low IMO

Jmo

chgohighlife wrote:
Hey Girl @HEA
I’m really hoping Tyler does not mix it up long term with Hot Mess Hannah and I can’t imagine why his mom is pushing for it. In other words, I hope you’re right about that but, I can see many efforts afoot to prevent Hannah from going home empty-handed. Fans are literally conjuring up a Tyler reboot so, I expect tptb to try to make that happen. I just want him to say no but, this is a superhero moment he may not pass up so, I’ve prepared myself for that. She and Peter had magic and he supposedly took it hard but, who knows?

Where I disagree: IMO, Hannah had an INCREDIBLE group of men. One of the best I’ve seen from the standpoint of education and employment. Seemingly respectful gentlemen who by and large seemed into her. Great credentials and jobs for the most part. The problem is her taste veered to men I think most girls would have sent home early, IMO.

@chgohighlife
I never said the group was not a nice bunch of guys. I said they were pawns in prods hands like all contestants and leads who sign a contract that literally allows them to manipulate them as they wish.

But to be honest... considering Luke drama took the majority of the script... do we really know them? Can we be certain that they are all angels and have no skeletons in their closets?