Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

sosleepy wrote:You guys. She wasn’t engaged twice. She had two serious relationships prior where she thought she might get engaged, but obviously didn’t. Her one broken engagement is a six week relationship with a dude who was lying to her the entire time. That’s on him, not her. JMO.

Sprite wrote: Sadly, I think you are correct that the women from this show are judged harder than the men, but I think that simply mirrors real life. Look at how much flack Haley got for telling her documented story. No matter the proof, for some it wasn't enough to give her the benefit of the doubt, while Jed kept getting a pass.

While obviously we don't know any of these people, Hannah herself has admitted to going into therapy previously after a break up, so I don't think it is exactly a stretch for us to recommend she does again after this sh*t show. She is young, she didn't trust her own judgement to begin with and now she has been messed with and manipulated by Luke, Jed and don't even get me started on tptb! And yes, while she appears to have eventually sent Luke off with the middle finger salute, look at how long it took...despite all his twisting her words, shaming her, trying to control her and his problems with all the other guys. Hell yeah, I would recommend therapy to anyone.

I for one was not sure she would be sticking with Jed after the spoiler switcharoo. I was hoping that the strong, smart, independent Hannah would eventually surface...I just didn't know how long it would take. I was hoping for sooner rather than later and boy did she come through!!!

As for the hate, sadly that is just the normality of these shows and SM. Even if Jed had been a normal F1 with no skeletons in his closet, there would still be haters. That happens every season. There would/will be Tyler and Peter fans who will be telling her she made a mistake and that she should have picked their guy. No doubt there will be those that criticize her dumping Jed or getting back with Tyler or ending up single. That is something that she will have to deal with and hopefully she learned from being on the Bachelor and the criticism she received then. She has family who will look out for her and  she has Tyler who appears willing to support her no matter her decisions. Other Bachelor alum also seem to be rallying around her, so she can get some advice from others who have gone through similar experiences. She is a smart, perceptive young woman who is still finding her way and will learn and grow from this experience no matter how it turns out...and yes, I think and hope it will end with her and Tyler together, but even if not, I think she will be fine and come out of this better and stronger and ready to take on the world!!!

Mommyof2 wrote:

Diana wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:Being engaged isn't something to take lightly.  You are committing to marrying that person.

well Jed sure should have known he was going to have a issue then because I don't think he even knows what commitment is

Much like supposedly window jumping/spreadsheet Arie, but look at him now.  Hopefully, Jed will learn from his mistakes going forward.  

misslurking wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

Diana wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:Being engaged isn't something to take lightly.  You are committing to marrying that person.

well Jed sure should have known he was going to have a issue then because I don't think he even knows what commitment is

Much like supposedly window jumping/spreadsheet Arie, but look at him now.  Hopefully, Jed will learn from his mistakes going forward.  

Wouldn't Aries spreadsheets and window jumping be considered hearsay ? Since we are so focused on separating facts from rumors lets just say the spreadsheets were always hearsay at best ! unless I am mistaken and there is in fact evidence to prove that it exists. So lets disregard that stuff since we are expected to disregard every allegations against Jeds butt grabbing incident. Even tho we actually have proof of him being in the Screengrab given by the lady who is in possession of the video currently. Just my 2 cents in this comparison.

misslurking wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

Diana wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:Being engaged isn't something to take lightly.  You are committing to marrying that person.

well Jed sure should have known he was going to have a issue then because I don't think he even knows what commitment is

Much like supposedly window jumping/spreadsheet Arie, but look at him now.  Hopefully, Jed will learn from his mistakes going forward.  

Wouldn't Aries spreadsheets and window jumping be considered hearsay ? Since we are so focused on separating facts from rumors lets just say the spreadsheets were always hearsay at best ! unless I am mistaken and there is in fact evidence to prove that it exists. So lets disregard that stuff since we are expected to disregard every allegations against Jeds butt grabbing incident. Even tho we actually have proof of him being in the Screengrab given by the lady who is in possession of the video currently. Just my 2 cents in this comparison.

Bleiby527 wrote:Here's the latest song Tyler posted to his Spotify today. He's either a really good troll, or he's just ....good.

Issues/Hold On by Teyana Taylor

I do love you but it's
I do love you but it's
Alright
Fighting to keep us together, hope it's worth a try
You ain't always been an angel but heaven's on our side
I got my demons too, I know just how you feel
You can be real with me, that's why you're still with me
Can't hide behind the carats on a diamond ring
I don't even care if you lie to me
'Cause there ain't much to kiss but me these days
I say I do just to say I don't
Don't give me no reason to go through your phone
This is deeper than you and other women, this is daddy issues
This is years putting up with the real time niggas
So hold on, hold on, don't let me go, hold on, hold on (hey)
So hold on, hold on, don't let me go, hold on, hold on
You tell me you love me but tell me again, yeah
I need…

blueblues wrote:
I went back and listened. It’s right before she gives Peter the rose. She says “I have talked about being engaged twice, like I have been in love truly twice”. No editing, you can see her lips, but the meaning is ambiguous.
snipped....

Doggoneit wrote:The entire playlist is incredible to sleuth.  He added a lot on
Thursday, one at 12;30 last night and one this morning. (the last one above0