Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Aunties_Love wrote:Yes, according to Haley that is what SHE thought happened but TBH, we don't know Jed's side and IMO I am not going to believe one side on this till I know more and see if we can be told more from the other side.  We don't have tons say that they were still together.  We only have Haley's side.....that's it.  All IMO

limoncello wrote:On Nick’s recent podcast, he said something that made complete sense to me. He said that Tyler comes across as very confident, self-assured and a type of person who knows deep down that even if he is not picked, he will be completely fine. With that in mind, Hannah sees that and might be almost intimidated by that, hence inclining more towards people that give her the position of being the more powerful one. It also aligns well with her tendency to fix people in her relationships. So with this logic, Tyler doesn’t need her to be complete. Luke needs her because he’s a mess. And Jed needs her.. well, because he needs to boost his career . All IMO

Tiggerlgh wrote:IMO Jed didn’t really break up with her pre show so he had a GF going in.  My only question is post filming she has told multiple stories as to what happened when and how. Nit does not release any blame from Jed but it is why some question her/ like me are getting over her and her story.  One or two outlets fine, but now I have stopped caring as she doesn’t even seem to have her story straight and wants to talk to every outlet she can, even some she ignored for a long time when first asked about her story such as RS.

I am just interested in what story she repeats or if she has a different one this time again.  Still doesn’t give Jed a pass bu5 she isn’t much better at this point IMO

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:snip
Which story did Haley tell BB about post filming?  

I think she actually told both. The first meeting was as described in the People Magazine article where they met at a venue about 2 weeks after Jed returned and hadn't made contact. It was after this meeting that he called her but she didn't answer the call. The second meeting was afterwards - at the CMA - as described in the US Magazine article. IMO both reporters could have had the same information and chose to write it up differently - just so each could report something the other had not reported.

She owned what she now realizes as her own mistakes (and should have broken up with him before he went on the show) and claims she hasn't gotten paid for any of the interviews she's done. IMO she came across as articulate, open and seemed to be honest.

Except in one story at the CMAS she approached him and had one conversation and in another story he approached her and had a different story regarding the conversation.  

Sharnee wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Haley does have receipts though. I am thinking the note and the text messages are very damning. If they were fake, I would think he would have said so by now. We’ll see.

If Jed had broken up with her, then it wouldn’t be the smartest thing to do to leave behind evidence you were planning to return to someone after the show . Her texts showed that he had that intention and that is to come back to her. If they weren’t really together than he would have won the  he said she said. That’s not the case. There is proof  imo,

sosleepy wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

sosleepy wrote:@Aunties_Love I’m just curious, cause I know you’ve been around the block once or twice with this show... same for me.

How did you feel about Ed/Jillian during Ed’s scandal? Genuine question. To me, these situations are pretty dang similar. Happy tenth anniversary to that season.

I hated it.  BUT it's far from the same.  Ed went home during filming and cheated on Jill then.  The whole time the show was airing, Ed was cheating on Jill.  Then after Jill moved to Chicago, Ed was still cheating.  IMO these season's couldn't be further from each other if we tried.  With Jed, he broke up with his GF BEFORE leaving for LA for filming. Again with my family knowing Jill, I do have some inside info on it all.  IMO, these two cases are further from each other as humanly possible.

Hi. I can’t believe I’m here to argue about Jillian’s season but here we go:

1. Technically, and per the same arguments you use to support Jed, Ed cheating during filming, after filming, and throughout that following year in Chicago  is all hearsay with no known facts. In fact, the only “evidence” we really ever got of him “cheating” was from when he self eliminated and was off the show. So it remains debatable if that would even count as cheating. Everything, literally everything after that is hearsay. I know. I followed that $hitshow closely. Did it happen? Maybe and probably. I’m not here to defend Ed Swiderski for anything.  But it’s hearsay, to this day, and it’s kind of a double standard to grant Jed the complete benefit of doubt about intense post show behavior/rumors, while crucifying Ed for the same.

2. As has been stated many different times, Jed absolutely did not break up with his girlfriend before going on the show. This is factual and proven with texts.

3. These seasons are incredibly similar. Hilariously similar. And...  that’s all I’m going to say about that.

Hawaii Girl wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:Yes, according to Haley that is what SHE thought happened but TBH, we don't know Jed's side and IMO I am not going to believe one side on this till I know more and see if we can be told more from the other side.  We don't have tons say that they were still together.  We only have Haley's side.....that's it.  All IMO

We have the text messages he sent the day he left for filming saying “I love you, don’t forget that” and “I’ll call you when I land”. We have the note he wrote her saying “You know where my heart will be”. Like..... that is FAR more evidence than ANY OTHER girl/guy back home has ever provided. They were not broken up while he was filming. This is not an opinion, this is a fact. You cannot ask for proof and then ignore the proof provided because it doesn’t suit your narrative.

sosleepy wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

sosleepy wrote:@Aunties_Love I’m just curious, cause I know you’ve been around the block once or twice with this show... same for me.

How did you feel about Ed/Jillian during Ed’s scandal? Genuine question. To me, these situations are pretty dang similar. Happy tenth anniversary to that season.

I hated it.  BUT it's far from the same.  Ed went home during filming and cheated on Jill then.  The whole time the show was airing, Ed was cheating on Jill.  Then after Jill moved to Chicago, Ed was still cheating.  IMO these season's couldn't be further from each other if we tried.  With Jed, he broke up with his GF BEFORE leaving for LA for filming. Again with my family knowing Jill, I do have some inside info on it all.  IMO, these two cases are further from each other as humanly possible.

Hi. I can’t believe I’m here to argue about Jillian’s season but here we go:

1. Technically, and per the same arguments you use to support Jed, Ed cheating during filming, after filming, and throughout that following year in Chicago  is all hearsay with no known facts. In fact, the only “evidence” we really ever got of him “cheating” was from when he self eliminated and was off the show. So it remains debatable if that would even count as cheating. Everything, literally everything after that is hearsay. I know. I followed that $hitshow closely. Did it happen? Maybe and probably. I’m not here to defend Ed Swiderski for anything.  But it’s hearsay, to this day, and it’s kind of a double standard to grant Jed the complete benefit of doubt about intense post show behavior/rumors, while crucifying Ed for the same.

2. As has been stated many different times, Jed absolutely did not break up with his girlfriend before going on the show. This is factual and proven with texts.

3. These seasons are incredibly similar. Hilariously similar. And...  that’s all I’m going to say about that.