Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - SHV's - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

HEA wrote:Phewww 20 pages to catch up!

There is good reasons why I go back and forth between T and J. Right now I wonder why the spoilers guru RS did not explain why this season is different about SHV? What does he know? Why not spoiling the reasons?

We established that T is pretty much at the place he says he is.

Jed as a country artist has a very flexible agenda

Hannah has media obligations every 2 weeks

Jed father is unhappy about an engagement proposal made on a show and would believe the real deal only if it goes the long run with no cameras around, no crew.... why? If Jed is not F1, why does he care?

RS waited a long time to spoil and waited a 2nd source to confirm it is T. What kind of proof did he get to be certain? Picture of the lovebirds

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I personally see a connection with Jed. I wonder what is the tragedy he went through a year ago. I check his IG and it is clear he is a Christian and all his family. Therefore I do not picture him grabbing a girls booty and I am ready to give him the benefice of the doubt. I am not jumping into conclusion because it suits me to believe it.

I am still thinking about the evil eye necklace and the new black lava or onyx and turquoise bracelet  Jed is wearing after show. That is for me a potential clue that I do not want to dismiss because yet again it is not convenient. Jed wore this jasper or wood bracelet in LA and Scotland. Maybe it is nothing at all but Santorini is a volcanic island with lava beaches. (One in particular). Lava bracelet are popular in Santorini. It may or may not be a clue. But I do not want to dismiss it since Hannah is wearing this evil eye necklace when she is home it seems. Looks to me something she is fond off. By the way, some bracelet are also rosary. We do not have an enough close up to see a potential evil eye bracelet which is generally a pearl among other beads. But a rosary bracelet would not have any.

What is this second chance? Change of mind a la Jason? Picked Tyler, change her mind went with Jed? Or vice et versa? Or second chance because she became bachelorette?

It is not a matter who is the most lovable and therefore the most deserving to be F1 imo... it is what Hannah wants and what she is looking for now. and who is willing to give it to her now.

JMO

Addressing the bolded:

Jed’s father made the engagement post at around the time of HTD’s, so unless Hannah flat out told him during hometowns, idk how he would’ve known at that time that Jed’s F1. I think he’s just like most parents whose kid comes on the show, not a fan of the concept. I think him deleting the post is way more interesting and could mean more than him making it in the first place.

Giving Jed the benefit of the doubt is totally your prerogative but being Christian or religious does not preclude anyone from bad behaviour.

We saw Hannah wear the evil eye necklace ONE weekend and it hasn’t been seen since. Not just absent from her red carpet/media appearances but also absent from the rare personal IG stories. Not there during her other weekend home when she posted herself jogging, not there in the pic of her and her dog, not there in the Mexico hotel stories, so I don’t think we can form a conclusion that she’s fond of it. As for Jed’s bracelets, there’s not a single shot on his page or in his tagged photos that show an evil eye and nothing that shows it’s a lava bracelet either. Both bracelets look like regular beaded bracelets imo. Jed is wearing an orange beaded bracelet in his bio pic for the show and in other pics prior so I think he might just like beaded bracelets.

None of this means he isn’t F1, just clarifying some things.

Thank you @ReneeM for this and many other posts that I always appreciate. You have more patience than I do ...
About Jed’s ‘ bracelet’ the one I saw him wear in a picture taken way before Santorini looks like ‘ Mala’ which is a Buddhist traditional prayer beads. I’m not sure about the significance it has for Jed but some people do wear them as an artistic choice more than for their actual purpose.
He may wear others as well, but have not noticed yet on our photos or S/C.
We will probably figure out the origin of Hannah’s ‘ evil eye’ ( shouldn’t it be ‘ protecting eye’? ) necklace in due time.

In my humble opinion, presuming somebody’s behaviour based on his religion is a dangerous narrative.

If Tyler went out at F3 and Peter turns out to be F1 I will be floored.

Dahling wrote:I don't know where that post went

I took it down in case it was not allowed.
Correction: For everyone else...It was a screenshot of the reddit post mentioned earlier about they had confirmation Tyler was F1 and that they were asked to delete it.

Sounds like he is not sure what he knows...it's a guy on the podcast.

Someone on reddit nailed it with this one
"It’d be like seeing Noah Calhoun with anyone but Allie. I won’t stand for it." (Imo) totally same.

@ReneeM thanks for the clarification here are mines

Nobody can certify she wore or not the evil eye necklace only one week end. Obviously we do not know that as we do not have daily updates on her. So she may or may no wear it.

Yes naughty Christians exist and still go to church on Sunday’s. So true.

Regarding the bracelet. I explained that the pearl. Evil eye doesn’t have to be. Lava bracelet alone are very popular in Santorini. Could be onyx too. Turquoise are very popular in Mediterranean. Also both have protection properties. All I am saying is that he changed this bracelet after the FRC and pics on his IG are there to prove it

Hope this clarifies

Astrobach wrote:Thank you @ReneeM for this and many other posts that I always appreciate. You have more patience than I do ...
About Jed’s ‘ bracelet’ the one I saw him wear in a picture taken way before Santorini looks like ‘ Mala’ which is a Buddhist traditional prayer beads. I’m not sure about the significance it has for Jed but some people do wear them as an artistic choice more than for their actual purpose.
He may wear others as well, but have not noticed yet on our photos or S/C.
We will probably figure out the origin of Hannah’s ‘ evil eye’ ( shouldn’t it be ‘ protecting eye’? ) necklace in due time.

He has this brown jasper bracelet for over a year on many pics and so far I did not see any black or turquoise.

Of course it could mean nothing but some of those bracelet are rosary. They are called in Greece gladiator bracelet  too.

We are sleuthing and I do not want to dismiss too quick a potential clue because it is jed : I think there is potential there. They may have bought separately or together. 50/50... like 50/50 Jed or Tyler F1

Jmo

Dahling wrote:@sunshine50 I saw this earlier. I'm a little afraid to speak out now but...here it goes...this is from bachelor.spoilers account right? She is the one that I think has said she heard rumors of Tyler being sent home at F4 (I think I read it on Reddit) and he had to stay in California for some reason. Obviously that was not the case. Also she posted on her IG story after Hannah's mom started following Jed and she said that this was really obvious and then Hannah's mom followed Tyler and then unfollowed both. I think Jed & his dad also started following Hannah at the same time. This was around May 14th.

Don’t be afraid! We are all trying to figure it out.

I take with a wagon of salt any blogger or forums saying they have sources. 50/50 right or wrong. I know this girl who is cousin of the guy who worked for the gardener of the gran who is neighbors of the guy who went at school with... that what this sounds like to me. Hopeful wishes to me. Of course, in rare occasions the source is excellent but in my opinion rarely.

Anyone who is very sure, using words as if she is in the middle of every secrets can look like she is trustworthy. In fact, many times over, I found some are influencers. They masters their skill at expressing their opinions.

But I agree some do know some of the contestants and they also cannot be dismissed but from where I stand, I add those as possibilities , potential clues to add in the mix

However when a girl says she met Jed in a bar when we know he is singing in bars because that is what all country artists do. That he grabbed her booty? 50/50. I am not jumping into conclusions that is true. The other girl saw him in a bar so we can exclude anything happened. Who are the others? It is easy to exaggerate an incident. Imo.

If it is true, then Jed is definitely an azzh*le. Until I have more solid proofs I will not use it against him because the girl may have just wanted her 2min of fame as far as I know

Jmo

HEA wrote:If it is true, then Jed is definitely an azzh*le. Until I have more solid proofs I will not use it against him because the girl may have just wanted her 2min of fame  as far as I knowJmo

I definitely agree with you that we don't have solid proof yet. However, there have been multiple women saying things on Reddit and on Twitter about their friends' experiences with Jed (so it's not about their own fame) and not a single one saying it about Peter or Tyler. I think it's something that we should make note of and wait for solid proof.

Dahling wrote:@sunshine50 I saw this earlier. I'm a little afraid to speak out now but...here it goes...this is from bachelor.spoilers account right? She is the one that I think has said she heard rumors of Tyler being sent home at F4 (I think I read it on Reddit) and he had to stay in California for some reason. Obviously that was not the case. Also she posted on her IG story after Hannah's mom started following Jed and she said that this was really obvious and then Hannah's mom followed Tyler and then unfollowed both. I think Jed & his dad also started following Hannah at the same time. This was around May 14th.

It is the same account, but I’m guessing at the time she didn’t have any information yet. Hannah’s mom just followed Jed looked like a smoking gun at the point. Except... multiple reddit users confirmed with screenshots not long after this incident, she actually followed Tyler close to an hour BEFORE Jed but because he was private and Jed was public it didn’t show up that way at first. I’m not saying she’s 100% right, but she tends to be very reliable and has been honest when she hasn’t heard anything. She did say even with the Mrs. Brown following Jed it wasn’t 100% it just certainly seemed obvious at the time.

She did get two of the four hometowns before RS, and confirmed Tyler was in the F2 before RS released the names. It’s possible it’s a full foiler season, but she has been accurate this season

Bleiby527 wrote:

HEA wrote:If it is true, then Jed is definitely an azzh*le. Until I have more solid proofs I will not use it against him because the girl may have just wanted her 2min of fame  as far as I knowJmo

I definitely agree with you that we don't have solid proof yet. However, there have been multiple women saying things on Reddit and on Twitter about their friends' experiences with Jed (so it's not about their own fame) and not a single one saying it about Peter or Tyler. I think it's something that we should make note of and wait for solid proof.

I do agree that where there is smoke there is usually fire. But it's sometimes hard to tell what's true and what's not true. There have been guys who have had very negative social media stories and press while their season has aired (Jordan, Garrett Y) but end up redeeming themselves in the eyes of many viewers. Time will tell......

Bleiby527 wrote:

HEA wrote:If it is true, then Jed is definitely an azzh*le. Until I have more solid proofs I will not use it against him because the girl may have just wanted her 2min of fame  as far as I knowJmo

I definitely agree with you that we don't have solid proof yet. However, there have been multiple women saying things on Reddit and on Twitter about their friends' experiences with Jed (so it's not about their own fame) and not a single one saying it about Peter or Tyler. I think it's something that we should make note of and wait for solid proof.

Can I have the reference of multiple girls” and what they truly said please? Because right now I have only one. I dismiss the one who saw him in the bar