Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - SHV's - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Dahling wrote:I also think that TPTB may have spoiled RS with Tyler because they knew he could carry a lot of interest to the end, while Jed (sorry Jed) may not be as interesting. People may not tune in if they knew it was Jed in the end. It's all about the ratings - right? I was unaware of the music that they typically play for F! - I'll have to think about this.

What is TPTB? Are you referring to the Bachelorette's production staff? I really doubt they're working together with RS as they've taken him to court twice. Also, RS didn't spoil the season until after the first episode had already aired. It may have even been after the second episode aired. He didn't say it was Tyler before the season started.

Regarding the music, the editing usually plays very romantic orchestral music during the F1 dates and F1 interactions.

Dahling wrote:I agree that something seems different this season.

I think that because Tyler has already been spoiled as F1, they don't need to hide Jed. They probably need to actually show him so it'll make sense in the end. I also think that RS and the TPTB may actually be working together this time. Doesn't RS help promote other shows?

I also think that TPTB may have spoiled RS with Tyler because they knew he could carry a lot of interest to the end, while Jed (sorry Jed) may not be as interesting. People may not tune in if they knew it was Jed in the end. It's all about the ratings - right?

I was unaware of the music that they typically play for F! - I'll have to think about this.

BTW I would love for it to be Tyler at the end, but I would immediately be concerned for her.

I agree that RS spoilings are not fun. I personally prefer not to be spoiled and I have been in the no spoilers threads a few times and enjoyed myself way more. RS has been wrong a couple of times so he is not 100% all the time correct.

This season, it took him way longer to announce his spoiled F1 and he said that it took him a 2nd proof to be certain. This in itself is questionable IMO. Prods know very very well RS. Lately, they changed many things so RS got less credit such spoiling all the contestants prior the premiere or changing the teasers etc. Prods it seems want to be ahead of RS. RS is not very established in the bachelor nation and everyone is giving him datas, right or wrong. so he can be right like most of the time he is... or not. and prods since they changed the crew may have decided to be smarter than they did in the past and play with him thru social medias.

The scenario I see is Tyler as F1... eye candy to friend to best friend to lover to fiance. Pros: modeling (both), Faith, adventurous (that is he way I see him) Cons: not ready to marry yet (still party with friends -boat, DJs), place to live unknown (NYC seems to be his goal but who knows?)

The scenario I see with Jed as F1... South connection that only Southern people have with each other (difficult to explain but real). Pros: Country music love. Nashville love. Faith. Husband material. Cons: country music may be his priority and that could definitely pull away Hannah who wants to be #1.

both have pros and cons. I see Hannah more attracted to Tyler in the long run only because of his focus on her, his dedication. This may change but this is how I feel right now.

JMO

TPTB - The Powers That Be or something like that. Yes the producers, etc..

Chris Harrison (CH) and others have stated that social media is something they can't avoid and need to learn to work with it - so I'm thinking this year they are! I don't know much about RS and don't know that this is true. It's just a thought I had.

I recently read about that lawsuit and it seem to state that he could not contact anyone from ABC and The Bachelor franchise. Not that they couldn't contact him. Again just my speculation.

dee wrote:

HEA wrote:
However.... Tyler got a lot of airtime on meet and greet with this picnic impromptu outside the mansion. THIS is not hidden at all versus Jed who got a couple of zooms which is IMO a sign of F1.

Tyler never got the chance to speak with her during the first episode. Not sure if you're referring to another episode. Jed has definitely had more air time and is seen all over promos, so far.

you are correct. it was episode 2.

guess he needed to find something special quick if he did not want to be cast aside. Prods helped him a lot IMO. No way he did it on his own.

HEA wrote:
you are correct. it was episode 2.

guess he needed to find something special quick if he did not want to be cast aside. Prods helped him a lot IMO. No way he did it on his own.

If I remember correctly, Tyler just used whatever set up was let over from the chicken nugget stunt Cam tried to pull on Kevin and Hannah. It was "Cam" (producers) who set up that heart with rose petals for the nugget scene.

HEA - I agree with your scenarios.

People don't realize playing music is Jed's job, just like modeling is for Tyler's. They both have their downfalls. It's how they make a living, pay their bills.

Did anybody notice that Hannah said she wants to move to Nashville? She said it on the group date when she was talking to Jed on the roof where they threw chicken nuggets. Jed said "We'll see what we can do about that". It was cute.

Dahling wrote:Hi HEA. Yes I'm here to lend support.

My thoughts on the next bachelor...yes Tyler could be the next bachelor. If he wants to do it. So could Mike or Peter. I think TPTB really want to have a POC as the next bachelor. It's time! People are calling for it and will be upset if it doesn't happen. But...there's no denying Tyler's popularity. They may not want to miss this opportunity with him. But...is Tyler really interested in marriage? idk - we'll see

Should I be taking this discussion somewhere else? I'm new here, so let me know.

I think they are pushing Peter as next Bach. If his exit is a la Sean, then he has many chances. I do not like much Mike. His tattle personality irks me. Tyler IMO is not ready for marriage but i do see him in a long term engagement alto the vibe I have is more like a party guy even if he does charities (good for him) and he seems a good guy. His IG show a womanizer vibe to me..... BUT it takes the right woman to change so I do give him the benefice of the doubt.

I think Tyler would go with the flow and be happy to be next bach. Either he would get a fiance and great exposure so great opportunities career wise. They do not get married at the end. An engagement can be broken anytime...

dee wrote:

HEA wrote:
you are correct. it was episode 2.

guess he needed to find something special quick if he did not want to be cast aside. Prods helped him a lot IMO. No way he did it on his own.

If I remember correctly, Tyler just used whatever set up was let over from the chicken nugget stunt Cam tried to pull on Kevin and Hannah. It was "Cam" (producers) who set up that heart with rose petals for the nugget scene.

not really IMO very very much prods organized


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@HEA Of course, but I am saying Cam used the exact same set up prior to Tyler's time with Hannah. So it's not set up specifically for Tyler and probably many other guys that have used that set up that night as well.

Some of the other contestants sat in that picnic thing as well, I believe. It wasn't just Tyler and I agree that it was completely set up by production.

@dee @Bleiby527  i do visualize the prods setting the place and ... eeny weeny pick one guy they wanted... talk to the guy and told him if they wanted a private time with her.... tyler never asked for the setting imo

oh i did not notice the same place with cam... so nothing special then...

I think the reason that they (producers) set up that sitting area in the front was because the backyard area was damaged by fire. There was a fire in that area that nearly burned down the mansion prior to the season.