Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

sosleepy wrote:Jed’s ex (the one who was made to send pictures of herself to Jed before she went out with friends and developed an eating disorder) said he’s incredibly charming, and I can see that. On the show, I actually do find him charming. She also said he’s incredibly manipulative. This is also obvious to me, the charmer is a master manipulator considering how he gamed his way on this show. He charmed his way into letting Haley think this was a perfectly reasonable idea, he charmed his way into being friends with the dudes, and he charmed his way into Hannah picking him. Despite the fact that all of it was all built on a foundation of lies. He sucks and is dangerous imo.

Sharnee wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

teamfiercelove wrote:Yes and it baffles me. I wonder if proof of him cheating comes out if ABC will still defend him. There’s not many ways to spin that as opposed to the Haley ordeal. Also why did they think it was okay to let Courtney Robertson take all the heat when people were AWFUL to her but they defend Jed? She may have been snarky but I don’t think she’s a bad person.

Courtney did it to herself "I got the rose".  At least Jed hasn't been jerky on the show to the other guys.  In fact, I think they like him and haven't heard any of the guys talk smack about him, unless I missed it.   That's what I like about this season.  The guys seem to get along pretty well and the F1 and F2 are friends.  That is rare, imo.

Um, Jed tweeted that Scott sucked. That’s talking smack and for what reason did Jed say Scott sucked ?

Mommyof2 wrote:

Sharnee wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

teamfiercelove wrote:Yes and it baffles me. I wonder if proof of him cheating comes out if ABC will still defend him. There’s not many ways to spin that as opposed to the Haley ordeal. Also why did they think it was okay to let Courtney Robertson take all the heat when people were AWFUL to her but they defend Jed? She may have been snarky but I don’t think she’s a bad person.

Courtney did it to herself "I got the rose".  At least Jed hasn't been jerky on the show to the other guys.  In fact, I think they like him and haven't heard any of the guys talk smack about him, unless I missed it.   That's what I like about this season.  The guys seem to get along pretty well and the F1 and F2 are friends.  That is rare, imo.

Um, Jed tweeted that Scott sucked. That’s talking smack and for what reason did Jed say Scott sucked ?

I said, "on the show."  I realize they are edited too and they usually edit the F1 in a good light.  At least Tyler seems to like Jed.  

teamfiercelove wrote:@Mommyof2 The other girls were TERRIBLE to her as well though. Emily repeatedly told her she had a personality disorder. I agree F1 and F2 being friends is rare and I love the dynamic of the guys in the house but I don’t think it’s fair for them to actively make one F1 look even worse and then defend another. Her book is great because she owns up to when she was being catty and then spills the tea when it was very provoked by the other women or they flat out bullied her. I don’t expect ABC to edit Jed to look like Courtney because obviously he got along with the guys, but IMO there’s a pattern of his treatment toward women and they’re doing viewers a disservice by protecting him. I know there’s no public proof yet of some of these allegations, but during this MeToo movement its a terrible look to defend a man who multiple women have accused of butt grabbing. If Jed worked at most other companies right now, he would be under at LEAST an investigation by HR for butt grabbing accusations, if not fired. The Haley thing is one thing but ABC has to know about these new accusations and they’re still protecting him. This doesn’t fly in the real world.

sosleepy wrote:

I speak only for myself, but I hope this week put a nail in the coffin of the Jed/Tyler friendship. At the very least, it must have thrown a wrench in. Jed lied to Tyler too.

Mommyof2 wrote:

Sharnee wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

teamfiercelove wrote:Yes and it baffles me. I wonder if proof of him cheating comes out if ABC will still defend him. There’s not many ways to spin that as opposed to the Haley ordeal. Also why did they think it was okay to let Courtney Robertson take all the heat when people were AWFUL to her but they defend Jed? She may have been snarky but I don’t think she’s a bad person.

Courtney did it to herself "I got the rose".  At least Jed hasn't been jerky on the show to the other guys.  In fact, I think they like him and haven't heard any of the guys talk smack about him, unless I missed it.   That's what I like about this season.  The guys seem to get along pretty well and the F1 and F2 are friends.  That is rare, imo.

Um, Jed tweeted that Scott sucked. That’s talking smack and for what reason did Jed say Scott sucked ?

I said, "on the show."  I realize they are edited too and they usually edit the F1 in a good light.  At least Tyler seems to like Jed.  

Sharnee wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

Sharnee wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

teamfiercelove wrote:Yes and it baffles me. I wonder if proof of him cheating comes out if ABC will still defend him. There’s not many ways to spin that as opposed to the Haley ordeal. Also why did they think it was okay to let Courtney Robertson take all the heat when people were AWFUL to her but they defend Jed? She may have been snarky but I don’t think she’s a bad person.

Courtney did it to herself "I got the rose".  At least Jed hasn't been jerky on the show to the other guys.  In fact, I think they like him and haven't heard any of the guys talk smack about him, unless I missed it.   That's what I like about this season.  The guys seem to get along pretty well and the F1 and F2 are friends.  That is rare, imo.

Um, Jed tweeted that Scott sucked. That’s talking smack and for what reason did Jed say Scott sucked ?

I said, "on the show."  I realize they are edited too and they usually edit the F1 in a good light.  At least Tyler seems to like Jed.  

In my opinion , Tyler liked Jed all the way up to the point he too found out who Jed really was. I’ve read Jed was coached by past country singer wannabes who were previously on this show . He knew how to showcase his supposed talent and probably keep his nose clean . Jed getting along with the guys like Tyler might not be because of Jed. It might be because the other Guys in the house were good guys and set the tone. With Luke Jed threatened him if he ever hears his name come out of his (Luke’s ) mouth ....  The other guys said similar things to Luke without the threat. Jmo

Patience2415 wrote:ABC is supporting this behavior because Jed is a man, and can do no wrong.

Patience2415 wrote:ABC is supporting this behavior because Jed is a man, and can do no wrong.