Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I've been suss on Taite since his entrance as well. I guess we'll find out next week, but Ali has come out and said she's in love since the show ended whereas Nick was just like "I'm happy as to where my life is at" or something to that effect.
@Spangler you said this:

spangler wrote:Like it was said above, the only way I can see some sort of alternate ending though is if he turns her down in the FRC. His storyline is progressing like an F1 at this stage though - some doubt shadowing hometowns which will be overcome at the end. But that doesn't explain his entrance or Ali in tears on the ground at the FRC. Can we figure out from the season teaser whether it's Taite's voice or Todd's voice who says goodbye to her before she begins to cry?

Yes, I remember you mentioned that. It is true that during interviews Nick didn't specify that he was in love, but I think during his initial interviews (I went and checked his threads) he said his F1 and him met?

Does Todd have too many screencaps left @allaboutlove ? I know this is not the screencaps thread but I wonder if Ali regrets rejecting him then she cries and changes her mind...and then we see then having an encounter after that...it sounds crazily convoluted though :S This show is driving me crazy :S Wasn't there a US Bachelor last year that had his after the rose filmed when he changed his mind and revealed to his F1 that he didn't love her?

@Popcorn For All Yes Todd has lots of SCs and is confirmed to be in the NT finale. I don't see anything for post-FRC though. The US Bach this year (Arie) chose one girl and proposed then was filmed after FRC breaking up with her. He chose his F2 and got engaged to her on his ATFR. It was a messy time.

Yes Nick did say he and his F1 met and talked about secret rendezvous in the middle of nowhere. None of that happened since he didn't pick anyone. So he was bs-ing. Same as when he said in his IGstory he will see his missus next week (maybe someone off the show but it wasn't any contestant).

I get the impression Ali did choose someone. Biggest clue to me is if she didn't the media and especially DM would be saying all the time that they are either broken up or not together or something. DM were adamant things were over with Nick and Britt so they knew something for sure on that score. SB also knew since they put the "picks no one" option up and took it down quickly.

This year SB has the disclaimer for F1 rejecting the lead. They've never done that before. So maybe that is what happens this time? I didn't think so but I guess it's possible and I'd need more previews/SC to sleuth.

Popcorn For All wrote:I've been suss on Taite since his entrance as well. I guess we'll find out next week, but Ali has come out and said she's in love since the show ended whereas Nick was just like "I'm happy as to where my life is at" or something to that effect.
@Spangler you said this:

spangler wrote:Like it was said above, the only way I can see some sort of alternate ending though is if he turns her down in the FRC. His storyline is progressing like an F1 at this stage though - some doubt shadowing hometowns which will be overcome at the end. But that doesn't explain his entrance or Ali in tears on the ground at the FRC. Can we figure out from the season teaser whether it's Taite's voice or Todd's voice who says goodbye to her before she begins to cry?

Yes, I remember you mentioned that. It is true that during interviews Nick didn't specify that he was in love, but I think during his initial interviews (I went and checked his threads) he said his F1 and him met?

Does Todd have too many screencaps left @allaboutlove ? I know this is not the screencaps thread but I wonder if Ali regrets rejecting him then she cries and changes her mind...and then we see then having an encounter after that...it sounds crazily convoluted though :S This show is driving me crazy :S  Wasn't there a US Bachelor last year that had his after the rose filmed when he changed his mind and revealed to his F1 that he didn't love her?

yep last US bach did a switcharoo but hopefully Ali doesn't because i selflessly want Todd as Bach plus i hate when the F2 takes back the F1 after being rejected and not chosen first Todd needs to be someones first pick - jmo
BTW love your name

If Ali chooses anyone other than Taite wouldn’t they feel like second best? She is over the top chasing Taite. JMO

@LeapofFaith @sprout ITA he needs someone who will choose him first and chase him and want him like he would them

Bringing this here 

AllAboutLove wrote:

Sundy wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Cheers to BBF for the awesome sleuthing of the finale being in Northern Territories and finale ending early Sept   

A source close to production revealed to Daily Mail Australia on Friday that Ali Oetjen's finale episode takes place in the Northern Territory.

An insider revealed to Daily Mail Australia that the 2018 Bachelorette finale was filmed in the Northern Territory in early September.

source

Did you note would they said the winner was believed to be??? Todd King!

OMG that wasn't there when I read it!   @Sundy good catch! Looks like they updated the article after I posted (as noted in the published and updated dates on the article) so they must have added that!

Daily Mail Australia understands Ali chose her winning suitor - who is believed to be Todd King - in early September.

I still think it's Taite (as sleuthing posted in F1-F4 Thread which includes SB). 
Todd did have some pre-F1 patterns that were sleuthed too: the pre-season heart emoji that all past F1s got and Todd got too on the BetteIG was a possible clue for F1 but Sportsbet and other clues point to him as F2. 
Posted all sleuthing in the F1-F4 thread so can do a comparison and sleuth it all out. 

They filmed in NT so no international travel so I bet DM don't have any pics like they did for other seasons when they'd see the contestants flying back from international travel. 
Easy for the finalists and lead to sneak past any paps that way   

@AllAboutLove this is not the only article I’ve seen that hints Todd is the winner. Does this normally happen with F2’s - as in misdirection?

Yes - very common @sprout

sprout wrote:@AllAboutLove this is not the only article I’ve seen that hints Todd is the winner. Does this normally happen with F2’s - as in misdirection?

Yes there usually is misdirection with the F2. BUT typically not as much as I've seen with Todd.

I posted a summary on the 1st page of this thread here but some F1 things for Todd sleuthed were: 
- His "meet Todd" video which past F1s got (Lee and Sasha) and posted of him pre-season by the show. 
- TBAU liking the official post of him (which they did with all past F1s). 
- Media writing about him pre-show and similar to past F1s (Taite didn't get the media and interviews pre-season like Todd)
- Todd getting a long red carpet M&G which all F1s usually get and typically F2 is short (Taite got a short one)
- Add in him getting the heart emoji like all previous F1s got and Todd got a lot of F1-like things that past F2s never got (see above link for summary) 

I still think Taite is F1 but it is definitely interesting to me that if Todd indeed is F2 that these patterns for F1 for past seasons the show used for Todd this season. A change then for sure in things 

AllAboutLove wrote:I noticed Todd has a HEART emoji in his caption for his pre-season pic!  

For all past BetteAU seasons only F1s got a heart emoji with their pre-season pic (Sasha and Lee; Stu never had a pic of solely himself posted before being on the show).
No other contestants except for F1s in the past got the heart emoji in their caption. Could be a clue for F1 

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Very VERY interesting @AllAboutLove almost like they are making Todd out to be the one Ali has picked OR should have picked(well imo she should have)...could he be getting the same edit as Nikki(Australias sweetheart edit)?? oh i am torn should i hope for him to be f1 or f2

LeapofFaith wrote:Very VERY interesting @AllAboutLove almost like they are making Todd out to be the one Ali has picked OR should have picked(well imo she should have)...could he be getting the same edit as Nikki(Australias sweetheart edit)?? oh i am torn should i hope for him to be f1 or f2

@LeapofFaith   I resigned myself pre-season to hoping Todd would be F2 and not F1 for his sake. I think Todd needs someone who is mature and has worked on themselves and ready to give their all like he is and be as into him as he is into her 

LeapofFaith wrote: oh i am torn should i hope for him to be f1 or f2

Well it depends... would like to see him with someone who didn't even notice him till episode 7, pulls back when he goes to kiss her, and pretty much has already admitted she's in love with another contestant?

Or would you rather see him a bit upset for a while (which would have been 2 months ago - so he's probably over it by now) then get a whole season as Lead, and find a girl who actually appreciates/deserves him?

No contest in my mind.