Bachelor 23 - Cassie Randolph - **Sleuthing Spoilers**

Jolena wrote:idk I think thats ok and very warming but kind of uncomfortable for the new boyfriend . I mean a Christmas card, a text to him on a special birthday or something but I don't know about being so close . I say this only because my son had a GF that I was very close to , loved her like a daughter I was so upset when they broke up, she still texted me and called me once in a while but once my son found his (now wife) I didn't want my daughter in law to feel uncomfortable . So I think strings have to be broken to an extent. jmo Maybe it depends on the people  , colton is such a selfless, caring guy it might not matter to him, he says he is friendly with his ex's but I don't think Cassie would love it if his ex's were still in his families lives. idk

Jolena wrote:I don't know Caelan but there's no way in my mind that he can match up to Colton, Colton seems like a special type of guy in so many ways and just from how he is handling this show and her tells a lot about him and his character.

Jolena wrote:Anything is possible but I don't think i believe that her parents would do that. Plus If Cassie and Colton are together the past 6 months now and not even in public yet . I think she pretty much knows if she loves him.

Lucas15 wrote:Chgohighlife I have to say I agree with every thing you wrote above.

Sharleen wrote:CASSIE’S 1-ON-1

Colton takes Cassie for a leisurely day in Tavira, Portugal. At one point, they have a moment in an alleyway that immediately stood out to me. Notice how the cameras are at either end of the alley (it would be pointless to be in there with them since they’d be in each other’s shots). You can see Colton and Cassie feel alone for a moment, and there’s a great Direct-Look-Into-Camera of Cassie’s where she clocks the camera ahead and opts to remain in this location of “privacy”...



This reminded me a bit of when Arie and Lauren ran away from their camera in Machu Picchu.

What’s interesting about shots like this above is how there’s a sense of the cameras (and naturally, the humans attached to them) being the enemy. On my season, in Vietnam, I remember leaving an ITM in tears with an “I can’t do this!” and went to the room I shared with Kelly and Nikki and proceeded to bawl alone on our terrace. I was horrified when I spotted a camera way off in the distance, filming me crying when I thought I was in a safe, private space—they clearly wanted to catch me melting down and obviously the producer I was just speaking with had orchestrated this, down to knowing where the terrace of my room would be from the outside. After retreating back into my room to hide, I remember feeling such disgust towards this camera person (and the producer, too—that was the last ITM I did with him), despite the fact that I’d signed up for this and these people were only doing their job. (None of this made air, by the way.) Anyway, long story short: There’s certainly an us-against-them mentality at times.

The day portion of this date ends on a slightly soured note as Colton tells Cassie her father—gasp—did not bestow Colton with his Fatherly Blessing. Cassie takes it really poorly. Now, I understand her reasoning that it’s perturbing to not have the approval of someone whose judgment you value and trust, but to me her frustration felt more like anger. Anger towards her father for leading her to believe everything was fine but then not giving his blessing (or rather, “permission” as Max put it in the comments), anger at Colton seeming happy with the conversation at the time, anger at Colton for not telling her sooner, anger at Colton for not being more upset about it. Especially given Cassie had been pretty openly “not sure” leading up to this point, this felt like a too strong, almost juvenile reaction to me. I understand feeling deceived, but that doesn’t account for her giving Colton a hard time for not being more upset. For what it’s worth, I realize my perspective is possibly on the harsh side. On the HTMF podcast, Claire saw it as a woman feeling left out of a discussion among men over her future and happiness, while Emma saw it as an already on-the-fence person clinging to an “out”. Thoughts?

Naturally, because this is The Bachelor and any ex, friend, or family member game to be flown across the world for a potentially drama-inducing conversation promptly will be, Cassie’s dad comes knocking. It’s weird to consider that he had probably already been staying in the same hotel as her for at least a night, but she never would’ve known and he’d have no way of finding her.

Now, I personally really liked the following exchange because it rings entirely true to me…

The concept of never doubting things was something neither Claire or Emma agreed with. I didn’t voice it on the podcast (to be honest, it felt like an obnoxious thing to disagree on ), but, well, I do respectfully disagree. Before meeting Andy, and being a hyper analytical skeptic, I thought I’d never not have doubts in any relationship, much less the one with my future husband. But I can honestly say, at least from my experience, when you know, you know, and Andy and I have been doubt-free from the get-go. I spent my entire life not believing in that so I know full well how unbelievable it may sound, but I swear that’s the truth. I know every person and every relationship is different, but this is my humble take on it. In other words, I agree with Cassie’s dad on this front.

Jolena wrote:I can't wait to see what she tells him when they reconcile . I mean all of a sudden she's falling in love with him? is she in love with him? Was she waiting for the other 2 girls to be sent home ? Does she call her father and tell him that she now realizes she's in love?

Jolena wrote:To go from not saying anything positive to him to even console him while he's pouring his heart out to her just confuses the hell out of me in how she's gonna come back from that, I mean I know the producers and her father has alot to do with it but even so., how do you even say the words she said to him when she was leaving " I want you to be with someone who's insanely in love with you"  How she could say that if she really loved him (Producer/ dad manipulation or not) is beyond  I can't wait to see how the whole ending plays out but I'm even more interested now in seeing how she goes about handling it.

GinaRose wrote:10 Things We Learned About Bachelor’s Cassie Randolph Based on Her Show ‘Young Once’

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/10-facts-about-bachelors-cassie-randolph-based-on-young-once/her-mom-gives-great-love-life-advice/

Cassie pursues an online graduate degree in speech pathology throughout season 2, (Young Once) but she has doubts about her professional future. “Along the way, there are so many cool opportunities that become available. I don’t want to be close-minded to anything else,” she admitted. “It’s hard for me to make really big decisions because I don’t know if it’s what I want or if it’s not. That’s why my brain is so scattered. If I want one thing from God, it’s to make my path clearer to me. Or make me content in not being clear.”

Cocoasneeze wrote:@Lucas15

I agree with all of what you wrote.

I think it would be really realistic if she simply said, that she realised she made an unfair mistake, unfair to him and herself, that she loves him, isn't in love yet, but doesn't want it to end, wants to see where it goes off the show. BUT we are watching bachelor, so there will be more to it, Imo.

I think the marching orders weren't the ones Cassie agreed with. I think up to very recently, Cassie's life decisions have been very much influenced by her father, which also would explain her inability to make decisions on her own. Imho she's breaking out of that pattern though. Breaking up with Caelan was one of those steps. Pursuing a relationship with Colton is another one. I think she will also change her study path soonish, too. I think her father is in for a big learning curve too. How to let his now adult daughter be an adult and decide for her own. 

Imho it would've served Cassie better, had her mother been the one to give her advice re Colton. Her love story is so different from Matt's, which is really fascinating Imo.

I'm actually really interested to see how this wraps up, and where Colton and Cassie are now, and how Matt is dealing with it. Jmo.

northernviewer wrote:

Cocoasneeze wrote:@Lucas15
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Imho it would've served Cassie better, had her mother been the one to give her advice re Colton. Her love story is so different from Matt's, which is really fascinating Imo.

As per the bolded ....thats exactly why the dad was sent snd not the mom .... the mom would have encouraged her to see where it goes .... they knew the dad was super skeptical .... they wanted her to have doubts ... i dont think tptb anticipated the actual outcome ... tney wanted a lkttle drama ...l i dont think they were prepared for the big KABOOM that ensued .... hense Elan being shown the door ...all IMHO of course