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Post by Bobette Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:06 am

@AllAboutLove, Yes IA the Darwin tour would definitely start off in "cleaner" water compared to the preview with all that vegetation - but they could have travelled inland quite a way to reach that kind of environment.  All depends IMO where they stayed - Kakadu or Darwin - both tour companies are equally likely depending on which direction they travelled from IMO.
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:22 am

AllAboutLove wrote:
Sundy wrote:  I’m wondering if we have done a sun analysis of Ali Cry with Todd versus the sun position when she is doubled over crying to see if the timing is the same.  
:yes: I have been wondering the same about the sun positions and that the crying for Todd may be different from the sobbing on the ground. Will post my SCs in the SC thread to sleuth and add the "goodbye ones" too so we can sleuth and compare sun positions.

Trying to sleuth these SCs from the finale and the sun position as suggested by @Sundy if it is the sun position is the same in all the pics of Ali crying or different.


SCs of Ali where someone (spec/sleuthed to be Todd) says "goodbye"





SCs of Ali doubled over crying

AllAboutLove wrote:I've watched all the Bette seasons for USA and never seen a Bette lead cry like this at FRC. I can chalk it up to Ali but she didn't even cry this hard with Tim or anyone else. This is some crazy crying imo for a lead even with empathy for F2 this is on a level I've never seen before for a Bette lead at frc  Suspect

The only lead I've seen sob like at FRC was Bach US Jason Mesnick. He sobbed letting his F2 go and ended up switcheroo and going back to her after the finale and they married etc. 

I honestly think if a lead was crying like this over a F2 it's a LOT. A lot more than just empathy imo. If I was F1 I would be wondering why a lead/my gf is crying like that over a F2. So either something else is happening and she is really heartbroken letting him go or it relates to F1  scratch  
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Videos to go with above SCs in case more SCs needed


 originally discussed and posted https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5018p108-bachelorette-australia-season-4-ali-oetjen-f1-to-f4-sleuthing-spoilers#1361363
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:31 am

SCs from the recent promo released this past week
- sun angle different and matching with the double over falling to ground? Or same sun position?
- if the same could it be the same person saying goodbye (Todd if F2, or Taite if F1 and crying is for F1 rejecting?)
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Where Ali says she is in love so in love
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my scs from vid below tenplay.com


Video for the recent promo released this past week for SCS above and if wanting more SCs 
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Post by Sundy Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:42 am

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Post by Bobette Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:45 am

I have nothing to add except 2pop

ETA OK I do have something to add. laugh out loud  I just listened to the promo again and the wording is interesting IMO:

"Ali is about to get her fairytale ending."
"Who will she choose?"
"But what's a fairytale without a little drama?"
"Dreams really do come true"

These words do not suggest to me she'll get turned down by F1.  Unless TPTB are the biggest, most evil trolls EVER.


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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:47 am

Bobette wrote:I have nothing to add except 2pop
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:50 am

I can't see big differences with the sun position. The hue on the videos seems a bit different so hard for me to say and the SCs with Osher where Ali is talking to him don't look much different from crying goodbye or doubling over falling to ground?  scratch


Bobette wrote:I just listened to the promo again and the wording is interesting IMO:

"Ali is about to get her fairytale ending."
"Who will she choose?"
"But what's a fairytale without a little drama?"
"Dreams really do come true"

These words do not suggest to me she'll get turned down by F1.  Unless TPTB are the biggest, most evil trolls EVER.


IA the words in the promo don't seem to suggest to me that she is getting rejected by her F1. 

If this is how she is sobbing when letting Todd go this is WILD  speechless  I know it's Ali but still it's...that's a devastated reaction imo. 

If I sob like this over a man I am not letting him go ever!:yes:
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Post by djogbenyuie Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:59 am

Bobette wrote:I have nothing to add except 2pop

ETA OK I do have something to add. laugh out loud  I just listened to the promo again and the wording is interesting IMO:

"Ali is about to get her fairytale ending."
"Who will she choose?"
"But what's a fairytale without a little drama?"
"Dreams really do come true"

These words do not suggest to me she'll get turned down by F1.  Unless TPTB are the biggest, most evil trolls EVER.

And to add to that, on official IG account, they have hightlited Taite saying he has "biggest crush on her", "ball is in her court", "you make me smile". Doesn't tell the story of doubting F1 who has turned down the lead at the end.
We've seen in doubt F1 before (Bach can Tim, April for example), or in doubt F2 (Peter) and it has always been played massively alin promos and on the account.
For me, I can't see Taite turning her down.
Not sure what has happened post show but seems like we will have the same ole lead dump F2 and lead proclaims love to F1 (and it reciprocated) and that's it.
After show is another story though.
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Post by Sundy Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:00 am

What about this. 

First pick from behind when talking to Osher. End of the path covered in flowers. Sun coming from the right. 

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Then crying from the opposite direction of the path with the sun coming from the opposite direction

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Am I just imagining that???
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Post by Sundy Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:03 am

The only thing that is throwing me off is the shape of the flower wall looks different. Might just be a different angle
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Post by Bobette Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:11 am

I'm no good with shadows but if I'd just voluntarily given up the opportunity to sleep with Hot Todd I'd probably cry for a good 6-8 hours while the sun traversed the sky too so it seems about right to me.  laugh out loud

Seriously though yes I agree, probably a different angle.  The flower wall seems to be in a "U" shape all around the top part of the walkway. They may have even flipped the footage as they did with Taite's date.  

Other pics for reference; the long shot has some useful shadows.  IMO it was all filmed around the same time, ie chat with Osher, dump F2, CRY, fix makeup, bring on the F1 and she gets her fairytale ending.

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Source: TenPlay screencaps from upthread

ETA:  Piss-poor FRC set dressing IMO.
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:25 am

@djogbenyuie Agree all of that doesn't add up to him rejecting her. I asked about the ring that was posted about upthread but have yet to see a SC for the ring that is being said to have been in another promo on TV or elsewhere and that would be something the F1 would give to the lead so yeah it's probably as we sleuthed pre-season and Ali letting Todd go. Other things sleuthed could related to after show as that can be a different story  :yes:

@Sundy I see what you do but also may be the angle? I can't really see a big difference in the SCs. Wish there were more that showed the men arriving. They're being extra stingy not having anything like that to compare, yet  hmmm

Bobette wrote:I'm no good with shadows but if I'd just voluntarily given up the opportunity to sleep with Hot Todd I'd probably cry for a good 6-8 hours while the sun traversed the sky too so it seems about right to me.  
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