Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - Episodes #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

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Red coat and dress is Charlie, you can see the collar under the coat

I've taken a bunch of screencaps - they're uploading now so will post to SC thread in a sec. They totally mixed up the dates to confuse us but I think I've got them sorted out.

@Bobette

Dirty Street Pie wrote:Red coat and dress is Charlie, you can see the collar under the coat

Sorry in my head I was thinking Charlie but said Bill

Dirty Street Pie wrote:Red coat and dress is Charlie, you can see the collar under the coat

Correct! It was confusing me because of the jacket and Charlie paddling with her (looked like different weathers) but makes sense.

Well...after watching this episode all I can say is that none of the four guys is a good match for Ali. I also wish they showed more of Daniel because when Todd said that he couldn't guess who was going imo it meant that all of them were on similar ground, so they must have seen more between Daniel and Ali than we saw. I wonder what was Daniel going to say? Hmmmm. As my husband said, why did they almost remove the top 5 from the show? Did he do something that made the producers mad? This is not just bad editing it is awful editing.

She is so into Taite that it is game over for the other ones. She questions Bill yet Taite is basically hinting he is not really into her and telling her to give the other ones a chance if they reassure her, yet she keeps him. She is only waiting for him to declare his love and it doesn't matter what anyone else does, he will be there in the end. Taite and Ali are so boring together and probably individually too :S  She sees different levels of connection, which clearly, imo Taite doesn't see. She cannot read between lines.

This episode was really a showcase for Why Ali is Still Single. And don’t get me wrong, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being single in your 30s if that’s what you want, but it’s definitely not what Ali wants. I’m not her biggest fan, but I do believe that she is genuine about wanting to find someone.
She is so desperate for Taite, and his approval, it’s ridiculous. She is on a show where she should have a heap of guys frothing for her, yet she is throwing herself at a guy who only seems moderately interested in her at best.
IMO, she is deeply insecure, and emotionally immature, which plays into how she behaves in relationships. She sent Robert away because he asked the hard questions, and asked if she had “done the work on herself”. She hasn’t. When she was upset that Taite wouldn’t fight for her, that shows her immaturity. He said he just wanted her to be happy (probably a cop out on his part, because she put a LOT of expectation on him tonight), but someone who will fight for you shouldn’t be the goal, someone who cares for you, and wants you to be happy should be.

Totally agree.  

I'd like to think she'd be watching this in her loungeroom going "ooooohhhh, NOW I see where I've been going wrong!"  

But IMO she won't be.  She'll be critiquing her facial features, wondering if she should get a few more fillers, pondering whether it was a good idea to let the stylist dress her in a circus tent.  And thinking how hot her bf is.  Completely.  Missing.  The.  Point.

You know it @Bobette. It must be very frustrating for her real life friends to see her go through the same cycle over and over again, while they move forwards in their lives.

Dirty Street Pie wrote:You know it @Bobette. It must be very frustrating for her real life friends to see her go through the same cycle over and over again, while they move forwards in their lives.

I've had friends like that and it's exhausting.

Ali is chasing the guy who is not chasing her. She gave him the cows for free and even milked them for him and then asked him to pay for what is free. It's not going to happen. But the more he doesn't reassure her the more she will run for that. It's actually pretty sad but explains a lot. She's a mess imo.

The most frustrating part is that TPTB presumably saw the same things in her that we are, and crafted the entire season around giving her the opportunity to realise past patterns and mistakes and choose differently.  They even laid Todd out on a platter for her and she STILL chose the exact same type of guy she could have met on an LA staircase.  So many face palms.