Bachelor Ukraine - Season 9 - Nikita Dobrynin - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Episode 6:  http://www.holostyak-natv.ru/smotret/9-sezon-ukraina

The Bachelor episode is split into 5 parts and the 6th part is the AFTR episode.

It looks like there are intruders and lots of tears.

Nikita meets up with the ladies in some kind of lounge. They are all happy and then Grisha walks in and introduces three new ladies. I think the names are Olga, Dijana and Masha. Oh, the faces.... To say the ladies are not happy is an understatement. Lots of swearing and drinking ensues.

Nikita takes Grisha aside for a man to man chat. What were they saying here? I think Nikita knows he is screwed if they stay.

We get introduced to the new ladies. What do they do? I don't see any ages listed.

Back on the date, the ladies are not very welcoming to the intruders. Nikita comes back to … silence. Awkward! He gives them the plan that goes over like a lead balloon. Off he goes with the newcomers and the ladies are left fuming. Natali and Marina get into it. Lilya starts crying. Julia is swearing away. Julia and Olga get into it. Somehow Angelina Jolie is brought into it? Lilya goes for a smoke and more tears? WTH are they so upset? Have they never seen the show? I'm pretty sure that intruders are a staple.

Meanwhile Nikita is with the three newbies getting to know one another. What were they saying before they rejoined the others?

When they get back, more awkwardness. What was the blonde newbie saying and what did Nikita tell them before he left?

When the ladies get back to their pad, they bring out more wine...as if they need it. Things seem a bit more relaxed, but then the blonde asks Dasha something and it doesn't seem to go over well. ???? It's seems to go down hill from there.

So much for part 1. I'll continue later. Time for some sleep.

Back with Part 2 starting off in Egypt with a 2:1 with Olga and Natali. They are going wind carting.

Olga is her usual p*ssy, dramatic self. Naturally she is not happy she is not on a single date. Natali is game and goes first. She takes a spill and Nikita comes running. Olga thinks she is milking it just like the blister during the dance date, but Natali dusts herself off and keeps on going. I think Nikita was impressed. He goes next, followed by Olga. She did pretty well, although I don't think she was happy with Nat and Nikita encouraging her. Nat was side hugging Nikita...I didn't think he was comfortable with it.

When they have all driven, they have to race each other. There are three courses that are the same and the first one across wins. Natalie blows over almost out of the gate. Nikita is distracted by that and Olga takes off. Natalie straightens up but she is wondering from her course onto Olga's. Eventually Olga wins and starts spraying champagne all over Nikita who is chasing her to get it back. She wastes it all except for a gulp straight from the bottle at the end.

The rest of the ladies are back at the apartment waiting for a new date card. Seems that Dasha got a date and is all giggly....the others, not so much.

Second part of the 2:1 date continues at some restaurant. Same old, same old. Olga is miserable and Nat is rolling her eyes. (I know I can't understand what they are saying, but I suspect I would enjoy Nat a lot more than miserable Olga. Her expressions alone are a hoot.)

What was Nikita asking them? and what were the responses? What was Olga complaining about Natali?

Nikita pulls Olga aside for some private time on the patio...right by the door so Nat can see and probably hear. They seem to discuss what happened on the previous group date where she stormed out and was called back by him. I think he is telling her she needs to be able to discuss things even when it is difficult. She is still sulky. He seriously needs to send her packing. She is too dramatic and immature and would be such high maintenance.

Natali's turn for some private chat. She made him or bought him a card. She says something about their first meeting and she is getting emotional. He takes her hand and says something about comfort. I have a feeling he likes her, but she is friend zoned. I think he tells her something Olga said about her and she says she is in shock. Nat does not pull any punches and does one of her imitations of Olga and says she (Olga) is an actress.    Not sure Nikita was thrilled, but I think deep down he knows she is saying the truth and I think he thanks her for her honesty.

Back inside and he is finding this uncomfortable. You can see him swallowing several times. He tells them he can't give out the rose and he will let them know his decision at the RC. Off he goes and the two of them get into it. Olga says that Nat is aggressive and Nat isn't having any of it. What did they say here? Shockingly, Olga says she doesn't want to discuss it and takes off. This seems to be her go to way of handling conflict.   Is it bad that I love that Nat tracked her down outside and confronted her again. Guess what she did again??? Stormed off. Who would have guessed.

Time for me to get some things done, but I will continue with part 3 later tonight.

Thanks @sprite !! Can't wait to hear ur take on the Dasha date..  I like her, i wish i could understand what they were talking about? especially when they were just putting it looked like a serious convo?? it was cute when i think every time he hit the ball she would go give him a kiss   oh and that azz grab! but towards the end of the date did it seem like she almost looked like she was more into him than he was into her ??

Does anyone know what the intruders are telling Nikita about the girls?? seems like they were spies for him or something?? @natik or @maddy is that right?

Part 3 starts off with Nikita picking Dasha up in a golf cart. They start off with some lessons. I think it is safe to say Nikita has never played before. He almost wacked the camera with a ball and I don't know how many times he missed the ball totally. They had fun with it. When he finally hit one she gave him a kiss and it's amazing how much his swing improved...again and again when she kept kissing him...and then they forgot about the golf for a while...

Finally it is Dasha's turn and she is even worse at golf. Naturally, since he is now an expert he had to help her hand over hand from behind. Smooth Nikita....of course, she could have pretended to be terrible just so he would do this...but, I don't think so. What did they talk about as they were playing? Something to do with her family and then I think he was telling her about his. It seemed serious and he got emotional during his ITMs.

Victoriya and Lilya get a box with an Egyptian travel pamphlet. Lilya gets another date.

We are back to Nikita and Dasha enjoying some wine. No drinking from the bottle for these two. They continue along on a serious vein. I think she said something about her father wanting a boy and that she had anorexia? Lots of chemistry here. They make out. He brings some music out and they dance and make out some more. He did a lot of kissing her neck which is usually a good sign.

Here are the others again waiting for the ladies from the 2:1 and everyone is disappointed to see both Olga and Natali. Of course, as soon as they realise that neither got a rose there are self satisfied smirks all around. This is where that bit that they teased us with occurs when Natali pulls down her pants to show the bruise she received when doing the wind carting. Natalie had been doing much of the talking and they then asked Olga how the day went. Whatever she said ticked off Natali and those two started at it again. I want to know what they said and then what Liz and the new ladies were saying in their ITMs. I think the new ones said something about Olga playing the "zertva"...victim and not believing her?

The newbies and the original group then go at it. I think it was Dijana who did an assessment of the original ladies. I would love to know what she thought of them and what all the arguing was about. I think that blonde Mashe is just trying to push their buttons. Marina and Natali then go at it as they leave the room. What was all that about???

Lily joins Nikita for her date in Egypt. They are one a boat doing some sightseeing. He is asking about her reaction to the newcomers. The difference between this date and Dasha's is striking thus far.

Back to the other ladies. It appears that Masha is an astrologist and wants to do their charts. I believe that Natali thinks she is there for the wrong reasons...to promote her astrology since she mentioned a "reclama"...which is an advertisement. It appears the others are ready to play along but Nat isn't buying it. Masha is annoying me. She seems to want to run things and while the others for some reason are now playing nice, Nat just grabs a magazine and ignores her. Julia then goes after Nat. ??? It seems that Masha is now telling them their potential with Nikita. I don't think she believes he and Julia are suited, but thinks Marina and Nikita have potential. I'm not sure about Olga,..she seemed pretty happy about what she was told and was happy about what was said about Sophia, so I'm going with that relationship isn't in the stars.

Nikita and Lilya are back and they are going for a swim at the hotel pool. She appears to be afraid of water and asked him if the water was "dubok"....deep...when it is clear he is standing in water to his waist. He tries to teach her to swim or at least dog paddle. I don't know about these two. She seems to be afraid of everything and he wants someone who is active and willing to try stuff. He is very patient with her and eventually she seems to relax somewhat and manages to swim a little and naturally, they then make out in the pool. She seems to initiate the kiss while he seems to break it off. I don't think he is into her. As I wrote earlier, very different from Dasha's date which had more serious conversation and IMO way more chemistry. Despite what I think, later in the evening when they are out of the pool they make out some more.

I'll be back with part 4 after I get some laundry done!

forget the laundry @sprite i love ur take on the dates!

can't wait for @natik to translate this episode...i am starting to think it's between Marina and Dasha for f1?or is that because i like them best  and perhaps Lilya and Olga make are f3 and f4??  what do u guys think so far with who's in f4 ??

Part 4 starts with a short man chat between Nikita and Grisha who gives Nikita a tablet with some videos of the new ladies. I have no idea what they said but I caught "spijun" which is a spy. He seems surprised.

The ladies arrive for the RC and Nikita spills the beans about the spies and their "zadaca"...homework. He takes them for a chat. I want to know what they said about the ladies. I think they said that Marina was "iskrene namjer"...honest intentions and that Julia was very sexual. I don't think they were fans of Dasha, Lilya and Sophia...maybe saying they were immature? Same with Natali who I thought they called aggressive. I believe they liked Victoriya and I think he said they "tverditi moje misli"..confimed my thinking. I think they also had doubts about Liz. I didn't hear mention of Olga? Did I miss it?

Time for the roses...there are only 5.

Victoriya first....and she does not get a rose. What did he say as she was leaving? What was she saying in the limo?

Quickly in a row...Dasha, Lilya, Marina...all get roses.

Natalie...Oh, oh...they both look serious and Olga is loving this. What was she prattling on about? Sucks that he gave Nat a rose. Someone is p*ssed. What did he say about giving her the rose?

Olga...she is nervous because this is the last rose and she, Julia, Sophia and Liz are left, but she gets a rose. Oh, the smirk.

What did Sophia say to Nikita in her video.

Nikita takes Liz for a talk. What was going on here? I think she was defending herself by saying she is "mirna"...quiet and she is afraid?..."strah". I don't know what is going on here. Did she say something about Olga? She then asked him "ti vjerus me" … Do you believe me? Well, apparently he did since she got a rose. I don't see it between these two, but I guess he has to keep a certain number.

Oh, the looks when he brought her out with a rose. If looks could kill, Julia would have!

Julia's turn for a chat. What did they say? I think he thinks they don't really communicate or have things to talk about. She is all about the physical and as much as he likes that, he wants more. I don't think the others are too sad to see her go, but Marina and Nat were sparing again. I wish I knew what Nat is saying. I bet she is tv gold. What did Julia say on her way out in the limo?

Sophia's turn for a chat. What was all that about? He was so serious there and didn't look too pleased. I thought he wouldn't give her a rose, but then all of a sudden he did.

They are off to France!!!

Correction to my first post about this episode. There are only 4 parts. What I thought was the 5th part is actually the first episode. I have no idea why they put that there. The last bit is still the AFTR which I will watch in a bit.

Thanks do much @Sprite

Are there any signs that there’s a clear favorite? Does he REALLY seems interested in anyone? It’s like he’s trying to get something going but most of the women probably are immature and not serious about the process.

The only one I see a real connection with is Dasha. The interesting thing at the RC he called Dasha, liya(?) and Marina. They showed a switch, similar to the end: Flash to Dasha, a rose to Liya(?) then a kiss that you can see to Dasha and a kiss you cannot see to Marina. Really think these may be the final 3 and I have a feeling that liya(?) is F1. I prefer Dasha. Sophia is so boring imo.

@natik anyway you can tell us what the intruders thought of the girls and what Nitka thinks of each?

The AFTR has Masha and Dijana as guests. The ladies are still not thrilled about them. Olga is her usual miserable, drama queen....oh, and she got a haircut since the show.

It's good to know they have as much filler on foreign versions of the AFTR. They start showing scenes from previous Bachelor seasons....I'm assuming intruders and the reactions from those women. Then they show Nikita's reaction when Grisha was talking to him about the intruders. None of the ladies look happy, although, Dasha seems to be trying to hide a grin. Hmmmm…..

Masha is going on about Liz. ??? Then she starts about Dasha and Dasha disagrees.

Masha and Dijana join the other experts. Where is the guy that was there the first AFTR. I would be nice to have a male point of view. This is like a hen house.

Out comes Liz. Seems she disagrees with the experts assessment of her too. Review of her time on the show. Ladies all weigh in about her. ??? Experts are saying "ne pokazuje"...she isn't showing. I guess they want her to be more expressive. Blah, blah, blah. So much filler.

Julia is next. Recap of her time and the experts weigh in. I think Masha was saying that she was different when the cameras were on? Nat agreed. What was said?

Victoriya's turn on the hot seat. They show her recap and then the experts and some of the ladies chime in. What was said. It looked like most of them liked her and were sorry to see her go. What did Vic say that surprised everyone? And then what was that about the telephone?

What were Masha and Dijana saying there at the end?

Idlemess wrote:Thanks do much @Sprite

Are there any signs that there’s a clear favorite? Does he REALLY seems interested in anyone? It’s like he’s trying to get something going but most of the women probably are immature and not serious about the process.

That is exactly what I keep asking myself!

I see that he is very attracted to Dasha. They had a very serious talk during their date and they seemed to have fun and chemistry, yet despite that I don't really see them together.

Marina also had a great date...in fact she had basically two dates one after another when she was on that small group date and then her own date the next day. She seemed to have spent the most time with him and their date was also serious, fun, adventurous and passionate. She is probably the one I can see him with the most, but even with her I have doubts.

Olga is the other one he is into. Now there seem to be a lot of issues with this relationship that he himself sees and they have had arguments and she has walked out several times and yet she is still there. I personally don't see things working out with her, but that is my opinion. I personally find her beyond annoying and just can't see what he sees in her, but then I don't have a p*nis.

So to answer your question...no, I don't REALLY see him into anyone. That being said, despite seeing him in action for a few weeks now, I find him very hard to read. I think part of that is that he is in the business of entertainment so he knows how to talk to people to draw them out and how to present himself well and yet, keep his own emotions under control. Another part of this is cultural. @natik has said that women marry much younger and that it is a more male dominated culture so maybe it's more me not understanding how things works there.

I wish we could get more of this season translated because I seriously feel like I am missing a lot of info that might help me figure things out. What are your thoughts...or anyone else watching?

As it stands at the moment, IMO Olga is the one that would test and challenge Nikita the most.  But boy she would be exhausting and I hope he realises it sooner rather than later.  Marina IMO would be a great equal to him in a relationship, but has she slipped behind the others?  Dasha is quite lovely and there sure is attraction there, but I’m with @Sprite, I’m not sure I can see them together. They just seem to me somehow unbalanced   The dark horse to me is Lilya.  She is a bit of a clinger, but he is protective of her and almost treats her like a doll.  I'm not sure about the passion though with her.

Does anyone know if the steamy makeout screencaps are a photoshoot or fantasy suites or something else?  Help @Natik