Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Episodes - Mar 5th FRC ATFR - #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

GuardianAngel wrote:

Stone_Hedge wrote:

ElonM wrote:Becca’s interview with People Mag post break up
The Bachelor's Becca Kufrin Breaks Her Silence After Arie Luyendyk Jr. Ends Their Engagement
https://twitter.com/people/status/970872868954394625?s=21

Arie is a LIAR!
While Kufrin credits Luyendyk Jr. for being “open and honest in the fact that he had told Lauren he loved her too,” she says that “red flags were being raised” when season 22 of the series premiered Jan. 1.

“At that point, I knew that he had liked some of her Instagram photos so we had a conversation about it. And that was the first time that he really threw it out that he should have a conversation with her and just apologize for how things had ended with her, that he had felt guilty,” sh

Yay I got that right. I knew she would have seen his like on IG and would know at that time something was not right. Dec 4th, she knew

Congrats but you missed the part where he lied about why he was going to call Lauren .

ElonM wrote:Becca’s interview with People Mag post break up
The Bachelor's Becca Kufrin Breaks Her Silence After Arie Luyendyk Jr. Ends Their Engagement
https://twitter.com/people/status/970872868954394625?s=21

“I wish he would have been more honest with me. From the questions I was asking, I would have appreciated the full truth. I was obviously blindsided like, Did I miss something? I was asking you these things and you didn’t tell me. What did I miss? How could I have not seen any of this to the extent of how it played out?” she shares.



As I wrote earlier...there are ways of phrasing stuff to make it seem more palatable. Technically he can say he told her...but not the full truth to the point where she would think he had regrets.


“At that point, I knew that he had liked some of her Instagram photos so we had a conversation about it. And that was the first time that he really threw it out that he should have a conversation with her and just apologize for how things had ended with her, that he had felt guilty,” she says.


Yup, it's all her fault for not seeing it. I hope it's all Lauren's fault for not seeing it when her turn comes.

umngirl wrote:According to Wolfner, Becca had no idea. Considering how much he has defended Arie, I’m choosing to believe him.

Sounds about right. She knew he was working through his feelings but that doesn’t mean it meant that she knew it was over.

umngirl wrote:According to Wolfner, Becca had no idea. Considering how much he has defended Arie, I’m choosing to believe him.

What did Wolf say?

umngirl wrote:According to Wolfner, Becca had no idea. Considering how much he has defended Arie, I’m choosing to believe him.

Yeah, there's a HUGE difference in knowing that your fiancé is struggling with feelings he had for someone he dumped a few weeks ago versus knowing that they're going to trick you into coming to a happy couples weekend and then blindside you in front of cameras with a breakup. It's scary that people don't realize that.

Sprite wrote:

ElonM wrote:Becca’s interview with People Mag post break up
The Bachelor's Becca Kufrin Breaks Her Silence After Arie Luyendyk Jr. Ends Their Engagement
https://twitter.com/people/status/970872868954394625?s=21

“I wish he would have been more honest with me. From the questions I was asking, I would have appreciated the full truth. I was obviously blindsided like, Did I miss something? I was asking you these things and you didn’t tell me. What did I miss? How could I have not seen any of this to the extent of how it played out?” she shares.



As I wrote earlier...there are ways of phrasing stuff to make it seem more palatable. Technically he can say he told her...but not the full truth to the point where she would think he had regrets.


“At that point, I knew that he had liked some of her Instagram photos so we had a conversation about it. And that was the first time that he really threw it out that he should have a conversation with her and just apologize for how things had ended with her, that he had felt guilty,” she says.


Yup, it's all her fault for not seeing it. I hope it's all Lauren's fault for not seeing it when her turn comes.

Oh, it will be. The woman is always at fault, when a hot guy is involved.

@Stone_Hedge I had no idea why he called Lauren, because I didn't have any facts. RS said he called her, that's all I knew.

umngirl wrote:According to Wolfner, Becca had no idea. Considering how much he has defended Arie, I’m choosing to believe him.

And he also tweeted this:

John Wolfner
‏ @jwolfner
26m26 minutes ago

Bachelor producers had this one T’d up. Never forget, it’s a business and the cast are just pawns in the game.

2018 doesn't give AF about Arie and his feelings . He chose the wrong year. It's refreshing to (mostly) see people rally around the girls, vs what happened to the other Lauren B after Ben's fiasco ...

Sprite wrote:

ElonM wrote:Becca’s interview with People Mag post break up
The Bachelor's Becca Kufrin Breaks Her Silence After Arie Luyendyk Jr. Ends Their Engagement
https://twitter.com/people/status/970872868954394625?s=21

“I wish he would have been more honest with me. From the questions I was asking, I would have appreciated the full truth. I was obviously blindsided like, Did I miss something? I was asking you these things and you didn’t tell me. What did I miss? How could I have not seen any of this to the extent of how it played out?” she shares.



As I wrote earlier...there are ways of phrasing stuff to make it seem more palatable. Technically he can say he told her...but not the full truth to the point where she would think he had regrets.


“At that point, I knew that he had liked some of her Instagram photos so we had a conversation about it. And that was the first time that he really threw it out that he should have a conversation with her and just apologize for how things had ended with her, that he had felt guilty,” she says.


Yup, it's all her fault for not seeing it. I hope it's all Lauren's fault for not seeing it when her turn comes.

Compare to Sydney
Everything was normal! The next day, we had plans after I got off work. It was just a regular day, so it definitely caught me by surprise. It was over the phone originally, just out of the heat of an argument, just a small argument," she claims. "But then I went over to his place and we discussed it further and that’s kind of when it happened [for good] -- it was in person."

"It was very emotional," she adds. "You know, you’re trying to get answers and you can’t. I couldn't really get a definite answer … I've never seen him cry, ever. I could tell that he was emotional, but there wasn’t tears on his end."

http://www.etonline.com/exclusive-arie-luyendyk-jrs-ex-girlfriend-says-she-was-blindsided-bachelor-casting-their-breakup

I was surprised to find out how much becca actually knew and how many times they’d discussed his feelings for Lauren post show. If she was truly shocked by that breakup .... she was delusional IMO

The real cruelty tonight was tptb for showing so much of Beccas embarrassment.... hope she keeps that in mind when she’s the ette ... they’re not your friends Becca !

alwaystulips wrote:

umngirl wrote:According to Wolfner, Becca had no idea. Considering how much he has defended Arie, I’m choosing to believe him.

What did Wolf say?

Someone on twitter asked him if Becca knew. He responded that unfortunately she did not.