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Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:09 pm

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northernviewer wrote:Yes ... it’s Aries story to telll ... he was half of that pregnancy .... :headbanging

But maybe just not tell it on TV? And, if the reports from Emily's season are to be believed -- this would be the second time he's shared the miscarriage story on a reality tv show -- with one making prime time while the other did not.

Is Arie that clueless about the optics of sharing such a personal story on TV? Out of respect for the woman he created and lost a life with, he should not use that story as a sympathy ploy to woe another woman. All the above is my opinion but its also just plain human decency and good manners.


Plus that story gains media attention too. Even if it was Arie’s half to tell , be accurate with the details and not half truths because half truths are not the best way to inspire credibility imo.

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Post by northernviewer Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:11 pm

Stone_Hedge wrote:My SIL suffered 2 miscarriages and she still laments it although it was 15 years ago. Everyone handles that traumatic event differently as the years pass . If Arie lied about the event, then what an addition to the jerk column. Another testament to his shady side imo .
Here we go again, it’s not what happened but how .

I’ve had a miscarriage ...excuse me .... my husband and I had a miscarriage ... but that’s not the issue here IMO ... It’s because it’s damned if you, damned if you don’t Arie that said it .... laugh out loud


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Post by Kashathediva Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:24 pm

In the history of this show, IMO, it may not have been the most sensitive, but it will certainly not go down in the top 10 or even 20 of things a cast person has shared that perhaps never should have left their lips for national tv. 
Again JMO.



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Post by Minney Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:27 pm

Kashathediva wrote:In the history of this show, IMO, it may not have been the most sensitive, but it will certainly not go down in the top 10 or even 20 of things a cast person has shared that perhaps never should have left their lips for national tv. 
Again JMO.

So true! But IMO the cast of the show hasn't necessarily set the bar very high on what should or shouldn't be shared on national tv! Staying above that bar really shouldn't be that difficult for the average person. giggling
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Post by Kolormiblnd Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:30 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
Diana wrote:idk but jmo if Becca is the bachelorette good luck Arie.. they are going to run you over ten times over JMHO
I am thinking that Tia may be the next bette.  Look at how they set her up for it during the WTA.  Classic next ette setup.  I seriously don't think Becca as the next ette is a grand slam right now.

I think it's Becca's to refuse and I don't think she will/has. She has the back story for it and now thanks to Arie she has the recent heartbreak for it too. CMIIAW, wasn't Tia dating some guy recently?


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Post by beader Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:36 pm

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Even better if you don't like him, stay off his page. JMO

What a novel idea! I love it. I cannot even imagine how many people who hate Arie, believe he did despicable things to over 25 women, has been a womanizer all his life, and is basically the scum of the earth are going to spend five hours in two days watching him on TV and humiliating him and probably at least one woman on SM.

It seems like a real waste of time--time they could spend being their perfect selves, making perfect decisions, and loving everyone--everyone who has the same opinion they do of someone they've never met and probably never will.

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Post by Kashathediva Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:37 pm

@Minney That's the thing with the show that was born from the same mind who created the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The bar isn't set high because this is, IMO a game of human limbo. How low can you go? 
The lower it goes or the more drama or hysteria caused, the more gleeful the creator is.



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Post by stuckinsc Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:45 pm

Minney wrote:
littlereddress wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/03/05/why-this-bachelor-expert-always-feels-sorry-for-the-final-couple-during-the-season-finale/?utm_term=.687a15fb3226

Interesting article, thanks for bringing it here!  IMO the editors only work with what they are given so in Courtney's case she behaved badly and said horrible things in her PI's and was sorry for it later but it was always a little too little and a little too late and took years to change her image.  

Another hit for Arie...

www.buddytv.com/articles/the-bachelor/arie-luyendyks-ex-is-furious-a-67859.aspx

Arie Luyendyk's Ex is Furious About Her Miscarriage Story on 'The Bachelor'
Arie Luyendyk Jr.'s ex-girlfriend Cassie Harshman is calling him out for his lies on The Bachelor. During his one-on-one date with Lauren Burnham, the 36-year-old race car driver revealed that he lived with his ex-girlfriend for three years and that she suffered a miscarriage while he was traveling for racing-- which eventually resulted to their breakup. But Cassie has a different version of the story.  "He was with me in the doctor's office when we found out about the miscarriage," Cassie, who got pregnant with Arie's baby seven years ago, told Life and Style. "It didn't happen at all the way he portrayed it. At all!"

On The Bachelor, Arie revealed that he got a call from his ex saying, "I lost the baby and when you get home I won't be there." Cassie, on the other hand, claims that they were still together long after she lost the baby. "The miscarriage was the beginning of the end," she added, "but it was a long breakup."

The worst part, however, isn't Arie's distorted version of the truth but the fact that he shared a personal and traumatic event for Cassie, who hasn't shared the news to her friends and family.

"It wasn't his story to tell," she said. "It's so disrespectful. It's very painful to see one of the worst experiences of my life played out on TV."

"That he would use this while cameras are rolling, with someone he barely knows, to garner sympathy, is just really sad. I never even told my dad about the miscarriage. I have a lot of friends and family that didn't know, and The Bachelor is how they're finding out. It sucks," Cassie added.

Do you believe Arie's ex?

Since she said the same thing after he told Emily her story, after she specifically asked him not to discuss it, I tend to believe her.  Arie didn't care how Cassie felt because it was important to "his" journey with Emily and then Lauren.  Good luck Lauren, Arie cares about Arie first, most and last. JMO.

Aria wrote:It was Arie's right, sure. But as a decent human being, when the woman you used to love (and he had a tattoo of her name, so hopefully he did love her) tells you multiple times (and she said this 6 years ago too) that this is not something she wants the world to know, you freaking honor that. This was not such a pressing matter that he couldn't have told Lauren during the fantasy suite if he needed to. He also told Emily on the first date. It's clear to me that he using this as a ploy for sympathy and it's disgusting. It tells me the type of man he is. IMO.

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Stone_Hedge wrote:My SIL suffered 2 miscarriages and she still laments it although it was 15 years ago. Everyone handles that traumatic event differently as the years pass . If Arie lied about the event, then what an addition to the jerk column. Another testament to his shady side imo .
Here we go again, it’s not what happened but how .

I’ve had a miscarriage ...excuse me .... my husband and I had a miscarriage ... but that’s not the issue here IMO ... It’s because it’s damned if you, damned if you don’t Arie that said it .... laugh out loud

I also suffered a miscarriage and as I said back in 2012, I would have been pissed if my ex-husband used it on television to gain sympathy from another woman. Gross.  Cassie asked Arie not to share it on tv and he did twice.  That is rude to me.  If Cassie had no problem with it, then fine, but she did and Arie disregarded the feelings of a woman he claimed to love and with whom he tried to have a child.  To me that shows how self centered Arie is.  It is all about his feelings and no one else matters.  This is just another example of that. He didn't care how Emily or Jef felt when he left his journal. He didn't care how his actions in contacting Lauren would make Becca feel.  It only matters how Arie feels.  This is why I don't like him, he is a self centered to obsessed with no empathy.  JMO.
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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:17 pm

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Diana wrote:Oh Becca. You can’t fake that heartbreak sad JMO


And there’s that gray sweater Lauren is wearing and tearing up in another preview .

This was posted on Feb 6 in the previews.

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Post by cookielover12 Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:20 pm

I dont get why Lauren is crying in the SC of her in the grey sweater if Arie was going to Virgina to get her back?
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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:22 pm

Mommyof2 wrote:It's all about perspective.  It's a TV show, and a highly edited one at that.  OT, but we received a devastating phone call last week that my DH's Aunt had a major heart attack.  She had been hospitalized for several days, but her heart stopped beating and she passed away Saturday night.  She was only 61. Life can change quickly.  Be kind to all, for we aren't promised tomorrow.  My young kids have never attended a funeral, so this will be difficult for them to understand.  
Sorry to hear of your loss. Funerals are very hard when you understand what's happened so to never be through one before....I remember that myself. My gramma died when I was 9 and that was my first. Fourty years down the track, I am watching my neice/nephews experience their first funerals and because of that, it never gets easier.


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Post by GuardianAngel Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:22 pm

This is old news. We went through this 5 yrs ago. It was plastered in the media whether they would show Arie telling Emily about the miscarriage.

I specifically remember this. She was very harsh towards Arie, claiming he dated hundreds of girls and why did he need to go on a reality tv show.

So now she's say it was a long break up? Another one that stuck around for how long, and now is telling a story, I've already heard 5 yrs ago.


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