Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #5

Diana wrote:I wonder if he told Lauren the same thing about choosing her when he proposed to her. I wouldn't be surprised at all.  JMHO  

Imo, if Arie is honest, he'd say to Lauren that he didn't choose her before, but chooses her now, and may or may not change his mind about choosing her another day in the future.

I'm not a betting person nor should be. But I bet Arie had some emotions when he was begging for Lauren to take him back and when he proposed to her. I see a big difference in him now compared to the beginning of the season, because I was concerned at the beginning that he didn't find love. After all he's been through and crap, he's out the so-called bubble.

pbmax wrote:I'm not a betting person nor should be. But I bet Arie had some emotions when he was begging for Lauren to take him back and when he proposed to her. I see a big difference in him now compared to the beginning of the season, because I was concerned at the beginning that he didn't find love. After all he's been through and crap, he's out the so-called bubble.

I’m going to disagree about the bubble. Their relationship hasn’t even hit the light of day yet because it’s still a “secret.” The bubble is still firmly in place. JMO

umngirl wrote:I’m going to disagree about the bubble. Their relationship hasn’t even hit the light of day yet because it’s still a “secret.” The bubble is still firmly in place. JMO

Agreed.  The bubble won't pop until after the AFTR and media rounds when they can be out in public, spending time together in real life.

JMO

umngirl wrote:

pbmax wrote:I'm not a betting person nor should be. But I bet Arie had some emotions when he was begging for Lauren to take him back and when he proposed to her. I see a big difference in him now compared to the beginning of the season, because I was concerned at the beginning that he didn't find love. After all he's been through and crap, he's out the so-called bubble.

I’m going to disagree about the bubble. Their relationship hasn’t even hit the light of day yet because it’s still a “secret.” The bubble is still firmly in place. JMO

Well love doesn't hinge on whether a relationship is open or in secret and their relationship really started after the show. I don't believe in the "bubble" it's either they fell in love or not. Some just want to win or an ego problem, Melissa and Jennifer from Plo season are a prime examples, they knew they didn't have any real feelings. JMO

Arie doesn't even know how to show empathy or any sort of emotion. JMHO

You don't fall in love with anyone when you've spent less than a week with them all while on camera and supervised, IMO.  You certainly don't fall in love with multiples that way either, again, IMO. That's bubble love at best which equates to chemistry, lust and infatuation, IMO.

How many leads have said the real realthionship and love come after the show when they spend time getting to know each other.  And in the same amount of time most use to start building that firm foundation Arie has ended one relationship and engagement started another and asked the second to marry him as well, if RS is correct aobut that.  Not seeing when or how he's created much of a foundation with anyone at this point, especially a firm one.  They've got an uphill battle and lots of work to do IMO if they're going to make it last.  And by they, I mean Arie and him staying faithful and monogamous.

JMO

umngirl wrote:Hulu made a big oops. You can see some of the proposal to Becca in this video.
https://www.hulu.com/watch/1230923

At this point, I am not convinced that anything is an oops.

pbmax wrote:I'm not a betting person nor should be. But I bet Arie had some emotions when he was begging for Lauren to take him back and when he proposed to her. I see a big difference in him now compared to the beginning of the season, because I was concerned at the beginning that he didn't find love. After all he's been through and crap, he's out the so-called bubble.

I don't see how Arie is out the bubble especially with Lauren when he filmed getting with Lauren just like he did everything else this season.

Plus the show hasn't even finished airing. Both Arie and Lauren are still in the bubble imo. Real life has not hit Arie or Lauren yet.

Good luck to Lauren when reality hits and if/when Arie gets bored with Lauren and moves on to the next thing jmo.

pbmax wrote:I'm not a betting person nor should be. But I bet Arie had some emotions when he was begging for Lauren to take him back and when he proposed to her. I see a big difference in him now compared to the beginning of the season, because I was concerned at the beginning that he didn't find love. After all he's been through and crap, he's out the so-called bubble.

My one big wish for Arie is that he flips Bach nation the bird and that him and Lauren give a relationship a try away from MF and his minions.

docnash14 wrote:

umngirl wrote:Hulu made a big oops. You can see some of the proposal to Becca in this video.
https://www.hulu.com/watch/1230923

At this point, I am not convinced that anything is an oops.

@docnash14

Diana wrote:I still cannot believe they were stupid enough to get engaged six weeks after he just broke off another engagement and they haven't even been in real life together.

what winners these two are... not.. JMO

It's funny, because I remember all the theories here about how Arie only picked Becca because he was contractually obligated to propose to someone and Lauren must have said no. And, come to find out, that Lauren says in the promo that she's expecting a proposal, she wants to spend the rest of her life with him, and she was so crazy about the guy, she accepted a proposal from him 32 days after he broke up with his last fiancé.

This is why I always felt like the producers/contract get way too much blame. These people are messy and idiotic, all on their own. IMO.