Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #2

happygolucky wrote:@Jolena I believe it's said regarding their IG stories (I don't know anymore in which thread you can find their SM "spoiler")... if I'm not mistaken, Arie posted very early on a photo and then later Becca posted hers with the same background (backyard garden/pool/fence), which was believed to be their SHV. Link to some web-search with the photos

Thanks!! Sure does look like the same location to me.

GuardianAngel wrote:@Jolena there is the SM pics @happygolucky is referring to in this thread.

Clues F1-F2

However there was another SM pic posted with Arie and friends bike riding? There was a female with a helmet on which sleuthers here sleuthed to be Becca. IOW she was with Arie and other people, maybe a SHV? That pic wasn't brought over to the clues thread, I searched but haven't found it yet.

Thanks GA.

star_D wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:Yay, there aren't as many surprises today when I tune in! I went to read RS spoilers. I think he screwed up on more than a few (tee hee) so that will be fun!

What ones of the dates do you think he screwed up on?  Are we on the right path with ours do we think?  

The points that he made below, is that what you are talking about??

I can’t remember the last time that someone who got the first 1-on-1 of the season actually won the season. Off the top of my head, I think the last person this happened to was Ian on Meredith’s season, and that was AGES ago

Which we know is wrong as season 16 bach, Courtney who had the first ID also Courtney was F1.

He also got how someone not getting an ID getting a HTD.  We know DeAnna got a 2/1 and was in the F2.

Week 4 - He has Maquel eliminated at Week5 but I think Maquel might leave early in week 4

Week 6 - He has Group Date: Bekah, Seinne, Tia, Jenna, Chelsea, Jacqueline, and Becca.
2-on-1: Kendall Long & Krystal Nielson.
I think he is right about Jenna and 2-on-1. That girl in screencap doesn't look like Kendel to me but Jacquline is not on the group date.
I think she got an extra 1-on-1 here. We have some screencaps.

But will two girls both get back-to-back 1-one-1? I don't know. Maybe Jacquline doesn't have 1-one-1 in Italy. It's just the scene he is sending her home.

Here's the filming schedule we have from what we sleuthed here from epi 4-7:


Episode 4      15 - 13?   - ASHLEY, BECCA, BEKAH, BRITTANY, CAROLINE, CHELSEA, JACQUELINE, JENNA, KENDALL, KRYSTAL, LAUREN B, MAQUEL, MARIKH, SEINNE, TIA
LAKE TAHOE - stayed at the Resort of Squaw Valley
10/1 - Travel - B roll filming
10/2 - ID:  SEINNE - day portion hangliding/parasailing over Lake Tahoe - night portion concert at Hard Roc Hotel
10/3 -GD:  ANNALIESE, ASHLEY, BECCA, CAROLINE, CHELSEA, JACQUELINE, JENNA, KENDALL, LAUREN, KRYSTAL, MAQUEL, MARIKH, TIA
10/4 - ID: BEKHA
10/5 - RC 4  ELIMINATIONS:  MAQUEL(seen home Oct. 8 - tweet.  then confirmation on oct 11), JENNA(because of SM)


Episode 5      13 - 9?  CHELSEA, BECCA, KENDALL, LAUREN, BEKAH, SEINNE, TIA, JACQUELINE,  +4/ BRITTANY, CAROLINE, KRYSTAL, MARIKH
FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA - stayed at W Fort Lauderdale Hotel/  Starwood hotel chain(sleuthed by star_D and mprssdbyu)
10/6 -7   - TRAVEL and B roll filming
10/8 - ID: CHELSEA - pic on boat
10/9 - GD:  BECCA, KENDALL, LAUREN, BEKAH, SIENNE,
10/10 - ID2:   TIA - swamp tour / everglades
10/11 - RC 5 ELIMINATIONS:  


Episode 6    9 - 7 BECCA, LAUREN, KENDALL, TIA, SEINNE, BEKHA, JACQUELINE, CHELSEA, KRYSTAL  (+1 - COULD BE KRYSTAL)
PARIS, FRANCE - stayed at
10/12-13: Travel
10/14 - ID:  LAUREN BURNHAM - Luxembourg Gardens - evening portion at Iffel Tower
10/15 - GD:  BEKAH, CHELSEA, TIA, SEINNE, BECCA, KENDALL - Moulin Rouge
10/16 - 2/1: JACQUELINE, KRYSTAL - Jacqueline and Arie's pic sleuthed to be from Place de la concorde / Haussmanian and political Paris with the Madeleine Church in the background.
10/17 - RC - ELIMINATED: KRYSTAL, CHELSEA,


Episode 7  6 - 4  SEINNE, BECCA, LAUREN, TIA, KENDALL, JACQUELINE(per sc and LeapofFaith,bluejay25, mprssdbyu), BEKHA M
FLORENCE, ITALY - stayed at:  Renaissance Tuscany Il Ciocco resort di Castelvecchio Pascoli(sleuthed by @lettore)
10/18 - travel / time off
10/19 - ID:  KENDALL?? (provided that the 2 Jacqueline pics are from the Paris date)
10/20 - GD:  SEINNE, JACQUELINE, BEKHA, TIA
10/20 - Chris Harrison spotted on flight from Florence to Paris.
10/21 - ID: BECCA K - Barga, Tuscony - Video posted -
10/22 - ID - LUCCA ITALY - LAUREN B - RS tweeted that this date happened on the weekend OR GD
10/23 - RC  - ELIMINATED: SEINNE, BEKHA, JACQUELINE - ig react 10/27

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Date list from RS:

Episode 4: Lake Tahoe, CA (15 to 13)

1-on-1: Seinne Fleming. During the day, they went parasailing in Zephyr Cove. At night, concert at the Hard Rock Casino

Group Date: They all go hiking in the woods with some professional survivalists, hot tub together,

1-on-1: Bekah Martinez.  hot tub in the woods then dinner.

Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Caroline Lunny and Brittany Taylor.


Episode 5: Fort Lauderdale, FL (13 to 10)

1-on-1: Chelsea Roy.

Group Date: All I know is that it was a competition date split up into two teams, where the winning team gets more time. But if you heard Robert Mills

radio show this week, at the 18:25 mark, he references this date and says Arie doesn’t send the losing team home, and Krystal has a meltdown. This is

the date where she makes a #NotPeter reference.

1-on-1: Tia Booth. They go on an airboat in the Florida swamps and then dinner later. Tia gets the rose.

Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Ashley Luebke, Maquel Cooper, and Marikh Mathias.


Episode 6: Paris, France (10 to 7)

1-on-1: Lauren Burnham  Luxembourg Gardens

Group Date: 7 girls perform at Moulin Rouge – Bekah, Seinne, Tia, Jenna, Chelsea, Jacqueline, and Becca.

2-on-1: Kendall Long & Krystal Nielson. Krystal is sent home on the date.

Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Jenna Cooper and Chelsea Roy. Krystal Nielson eliminated during the 2-on-1 date.


Episode 7: Florence, Italy (7 to 4) In terms of at what point during this episode certain girls go home, I’m not 100% sure, but since we know who the

final 4 are, obviously Jacqueline, Bekah, and Seinne all go home this episode. I think Jacqueline and Bekah are sent home during their dates and

Seinne just at the rose ceremony.

1-on-1: Jacqueline Trumbull. She eliminated herself during this date because apparently she felt it wasn’t a good fit anymore and things weren’t

progressing.

1-on-1: Becca Kufrin. There are pics, video, and link from Barga News in this tweet:

1-on-1: Lauren Burnham.

Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Seinne Fleming.

Could these caps both be from the same date in Paris?  I am wondering if someone can refresh my memory on why we thought not.  Thanks.





I know that the bottom one was sleuthed to of happened in Paris at the Haussmanian and political Paris/Madeline Church and I don't think the bottom pic can be from a group date in Paris.  Below is the google earth pic of the date locations in Paris.  I think the distance between the date locations is too far just for it to be a pic from the group date.  So because of that, we do have evidence of at least an ID date for Jacqueline in epi 6.  It could be part of the 2/1 UNLESS the 2/1 actually happened in epi 5 in Florida.  What does everyone think??



IF there is a possibility of the 2/1 happening in epi 5 with Tia and someone else, then that would allow the other dates to happen for epi 6/7 for Jacqueline.

mslat92 wrote:I'm going to reserve judgment until this season plays out fully, because I loved Arie on Emily's season but I just don't think the edit right now is doing him much justice. Becca is also my early favourite, so I'm rooting for them to at least have a real shot together post show.

Falling for 2 people is a line that a lot of leads have peddled to the media. You can find articles of Nick, Ben and Chris all saying the fell in love with more than 1 woman - so this concept is not new, and it's all there to ramp up the drama for the finale.

I’m with you on this one. Everything but those few likes post show has in my opinion led to Becca being the one he’s with and the one he wants to be with. He blatantly posted that picture sitting next to Becca for the world to see. I really dig Becca and want her for him but only if she gets grown up ready to settle down Arie because I think that guy is actually a catch. Time will tell.

While I don't like the two ILY or falling in love with two people storyline, I think what happened already happened. Being straightforward and honest with your partner is a better strategy than cover-up or lying. Communication is a key to a successful relationship. I think Ben's Lauren was so hurt by the two ILY because she didn't expect that.

Arie liking Lauren's pictures is the thing concerned me most among what we heard so far. Originally, I think it's a strategy to cover up for what happened. I don't believe he thinks no one will see that. He liked her pictures and comment three days in a row and now he unliked two of them. Super weird behavior.
I do hope it's not the reason that causes Lauren feeling she needs a closure or feeling Arie still wants or loves her. On the other hand, I don't feel Lauren is that heart-broken. She watched the premiere with Raven, Tia, and Adam. Lauren's mom watched the show and tweeted she enjoyed the show on twitter. I don't think they will enjoy the show if Lauren is still very upset. But maybe she is. Lauren is hard to read. I don't know her enough from sm and the show yet.
Or maybe he does change his heart. My gut tells me it's not the case. Time will tell.

IDK. It's the end of January. It's been about 60 days since the FRC. I would hope Lauren B has moved on from a relationship that she had maybe a total of (IDK) 20 hrs of real quality time with Arie. A few dates. I hope she has moved on. 
I think a lot of what we see with this, that and the other thing is strategy on the part of TPTB. JMOAA

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http://www.instyle.com/celebrity/bachelor-arie-luyendyk-jr-bekah-age-difference

Pre-Bachelor, Luyendyk Jr. said his girlfriends have run the age gamut. “I’ve dated younger, I’ve dated older. Last year, I briefly dated a woman who was 47,” he told us. wrote:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bachelor-sneak-peek-arie-confronts-bekah-age/story?id=52449639

Credit: @Chris Harrison

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littlereddress wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/bachelor-sneak-peek-arie-confronts-bekah-age/story?id=52449639

Age isn't the biggest issue for me. Bekah has a lot more confidence and style than a typical 22 year old - so I don't fault Arie necessarily for liking her. I do appreciate that he seems to be the one leading the conversation into how old she is, and bringing up his fear that she is likely in a typical 20s mindset and not ready to settle down.

I'm super interested to see how Bekah handles this. She obviously gives a good enough answer that keeps her around until Paris, but I do think this episode sets an expiration date on their relationship for Arie.

So has anyone noticed any social media clues out of Becca or Arie or even Lauren B for that matter lately?

The only thing I’ve seen are the song posts. Becca’s cutting her cat out of her mattress which was pretty hysterical and then she posted a pic of the cat afterwards and the words “at least she still loves me”. She also posted a pic from Work of wilted tulips and wrote “mood”.

RS has been quiet, just curious if anyone here has noticed anything.