Bachelorette Australia - Ali Oetjen Season 4 - *NO SPOILERS* - *SLEUTHING* Discussion*

my sc

this is difinitely extra time after GD

Ali is wearing some sunglasses on her top


my sc

yes Taite was quite upset with Todd connection. I do not think you can fake this moment.


my sc

so episode 7 Group date

soI am thinking that they are preparing themselves for the make up group date. This is why Ali is looking on her right, maybe to the other guys? Maybelline is a sponsor and I think I sleuthed the makeup on the table.










ending with extra time for Todd and CP arrival hand in hand to stir jealousy (this reminds me of Brooke arrival...)





my sc

so we have a remake of Nick date??????

school boys versus school girls
60s versus rock band
tarzan/jane versus ?

they did the same with Sophie with the hilarious James and Robinhood, and Appolo/sophie in greek kind outfit

But budget must be really cheat to do that TWICE in the same season....


and then Todd got the extra time (SC above this post)

Episode 8 single date with Todd?



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episode 7

GD: photoshoot maybelline.... extra time Todd
SD: Bill ?


episode 8

GD: fighting... extra time Charlie (boxing) or Taite (effort/kiss)
SD: Todd

I am thinking that episode 7, Bill will have a SD

Bill stole a date but never had a date where Ali invited him for a date

so for me episode 7.

note: I am thinking that when Ali is starting to have dark roots on her hair, she is using this kind of hairstyle to hide it during the day. At night, it is less obvious. IMO



my sc

I wonder if this goes together at episode 8?

theme looks like fighting...






but this too. On both dates, she is having the same hairstyle.


my sc

This bothers me. where is this?

I have many questions:

1. a path on the grass
2. a pond or water? fog?
3. one side with lights behind Todd
4. she is arriving?
5. no chairs for a possible event
6. is it the mansion?


I am thinking that it is possible that it is the romantic dinner at top 2 date? I do not see much flowers and the tree I mentioned in Darwin area. I do not see also the typical trees with roots around... So I am thinking Sydney area... so mansion?

The lights are easy to set up. They always have lanterns and xmas lights and stuff to look pretty to add on dates so we cannot really rely on that.

But mostly WHY is she wearing a wedding dress and him a tuxedo?

I do not see a pond around the mansion and the trees do not look the same either. So could be the final diner at top 2 but then again the trees do not fit with the finale... I can hardly think of a date at a mansion without the other guys around so it must be elsewhere.

HOmetown is out of the question. too fancy and they end with a kiss at the house door
Mansion looks not really an option. where would be the other guys? lurking from the windows?

F3 date or F2 date... so if F3 date, then they may have done it around Sydney









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So I am wondering if Todd is a good guy...

I started to be more careful since the stolen Taite card and thought Todd was more neutral but I found him a lot around dan sports guy, Bill and Young Nathan.

I believe Bill and Nathan are just normal guys and not ready to settle down. I see them in bars and clubs, picking up girls for a night and move on. They have fun, they party, they drink, they have flings.

Todd was asked by Jess/Bianca why was he still single. The pretty response all players say is: I am waiting or did not find the perfect one..... well duh that is such a line to say imo! Of course, girls would immediately think that he is romantic and waiting to fall madly in love...

Such a pack of poop!

This question must be asked a million times with the same answer.

Reality is that guys just party, have flings and are NOT looking to settle down. They do not want to spend time looking for one serious girl... too happy to have flings.

So honestly, I fear the edits are making him a beautiful romantic soul so in need to love and be loved when he is just a very regular good looking guy. Because, I am pretty sure girls are not shy to hit on him in bars/clubs.

Blond guys, not sure why, are always more romantic than dark hair guys. Not new. Romances always portrayed dark hair as more dangerous while blonds more angelic/sweet... Lancelot is blond, on top of my head.

Instagram is a good place to know a person but we know that contestants delete and clean their account to look good. The purpose is to be loved, to gain folllowers. Mmmmm I wonder how many contestants have dogs or cats or babies on their instagram... never fail

Anyway. Todd imo is F2. Therefore, he will be edited as perfect for Ali who will be devastated to reject him. Classic edits.

I believe because we tend to friend people that we can relate, that Todd is like Bill. Good looking, easy harem of girls in bars to pick up. I also remember I think worldwide, young people 20-30 remain single. Not all, but a lot. They have BF/GF relationships but no forever commitments. Tim and Art waited few years before proposal and Tim married only this year.

Todd is 27. Taite 32 (?)... Taite closer to settle down imo

The real question is: did Todd fell for her?

And this is valid for Taite too!

Edits edits edits...

How many times I fell for a contestant and he was a true jerk in real life... so good looking is no longer my main criteria now  

I miss DM and insta right now. I so want to know who is BS and scandals. We are mid season, not sure if DM are yet ready to share their findings but I am dying to know! It is fun to be unspoiled but frustrating at times :sigh:

Possible timeline

HTD: Charlie padleboardind coast NSW
HTD: Todd with Ali monkey jump + fencing
HTD: Taite ? Garden/picnic or meeting his friends or Luna park if Melbourne
HTD: Bill ? Local activity

F3: adrenaline activity
F2: Cinderella tuxedo Todd
F1: beach romantic talking

F2: waterfall, kissing romantic
F1: airboat with Taite (memories with F1)

So I looked possible places to padleboard... yep another word I learned

Found a couple rocky coast but nothing conclusive. Too many

I do not think they went very far. I think manly has rocky shores and it is popular and close. DM should have pics IMO

Very popular in NSW around Sydney


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